RE: email pop3 question

2008-03-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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 Subject: email pop3 question


 I am using dovecot email on my server - Users can connect via
 IMAP or POP3.

 I have a user who is using pop3 but not removing the email from the
 server - so the email stays on the server, -and- it is collecting on their
 computer - as the emails build up, will there be a problem with this?

 For IMAP it stays on the server, so I assume the server will not
 be presented
 with any problem - but will the user suffer any problem eventually?

It depends on a lot of variables.

For example, I have a 64-bit mailserver running uw-imapd.  I have
a 500MB mailbox with around 16,000 e-mail messages in it.  When I
connect with Outlook, it takes about a minute for the server and
client to sync with each other.  Beyond that, it's not even noticable.

However, some of the webmail clients do have a lot of problems
with this large of a mailbox.

With POP3 you start having problems with more than a couple hundred
messages in the inbox.

Ted

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Re: email pop3 question

2008-03-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar



I am using dovecot email on my server - Users can connect via IMAP or POP3.

I have a user who is using pop3 but not removing the email from the
server - so the email stays on the server, -and- it is collecting on their
computer - as the emails build up, will there be a problem with this?

For IMAP it stays on the server, so I assume the server will not be presented
with any problem - but will the user suffer any problem eventually?


all depends how clients are configured. if right - no problems.
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Re: email pop3 question

2008-03-12 Thread Paul A. Procacci

David Banning wrote:

I am using dovecot email on my server - Users can connect via IMAP or POP3.

I have a user who is using pop3 but not removing the email from the 
server - so the email stays on the server, -and- it is collecting on their

computer - as the emails build up, will there be a problem with this?

For IMAP it stays on the server, so I assume the server will not be presented
with any problem - but will the user suffer any problem eventually?  
  


The assumption that just because the user is using IMAP will alleviate 
any problems isn't necessarily true.
I'd suggest getting over to the dovecot mailling lists and asking them 
specifically the same question.


I don't use dovecot exclusively where I work, but generally when there 
is a problem, it's because of a user
having way too much email.  Whether the user keeps their mail on the 
server via pop or uses imap exclusively, the
majority of the time it takes to grab headers and/or parse through all 
the emails is limited by disk.


It's not uncommon for some of our users to have 4000+ emails in their 
inbox, and it's not uncommon for me to tell them

why their pop/imap client is slow.

~Paul

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Re: email pop3 question

2008-03-12 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 04:49:18PM -0400, David Banning wrote:

 I am using dovecot email on my server - Users can connect via IMAP or POP3.
 
 I have a user who is using pop3 but not removing the email from the 
 server - so the email stays on the server, -and- it is collecting on their
 computer - as the emails build up, will there be a problem with this?

Probably not. But it suggests to me that the user has probably
misconfigured his pop client to not delete email after he's picked it
up. Unless, he's using some peculiar kind of back-up strategy!

 
 For IMAP it stays on the server, so I assume the server will not be presented
 with any problem - but will the user suffer any problem eventually?  

He could do. The pop3 protocol is painfully slow and deleting
thousands of emails that have built up is no fun. You have to write a
script that deletes them one by one unless dovecot supports a delete
all mode for pop3.

You might want to drop them an email to tell them that their email
isn't being deleted after collection.

Here's a script for deleting them, if he wants it:


#!/usr/local/bin/ksh
#
# Deletes mail off pop3 server
#
# Usage: e.g: Clear 3000 emails:
#
#$ clean_pop3 3000 | telnet popserver.net 110

username=user;
password=pass;
MAX_MESS=$1
[ $# -eq 0 ]  exit 1 || :
sleep 2
echo USER $username
sleep 1
echo PASS $password
sleep 2
while [[ $MAX_MESS -gt 0 ]]
do
echo DELE $MAX_MESS
sleep 1
(( MAX_MESS -= 1 ))
done
sleep 2
echo QUIT
sleep 2


-- 

 Frank 


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