Re: looking for suggestions: multiple users on the same desktop

2007-12-01 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
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RW wrote:
but I don't want to logout
 and login back in and/or have to invoke the app from the cmd line
 (i.e. xhost +; setenv DISPLAY :0; app cmd line)... I am looking for a
 way to make it so I can launch apps from a desktop panel and/or icon
 on the desktop and make it ask what user to run it under (or somehow
 or another make it aware that not everything is to be ruin as
 aryeh)

Even though not very flexible or elegant (in the long run) what I
ended up doing was just sticking a backgrounded gnome-panel into the
.cshrc for each acct
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Re: looking for suggestions: multiple users on the same desktop

2007-11-30 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On November 30, 2007 4:31:15 AM -0500 Aryeh M. Friedman 
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I have several sub accounts (for specialized purposes not really a
part of an other account) which I do my work basically I have:

aryeh -- my personal account
web -- maintain my web site
dev -- development/testing of software
dep -- seperation of development and production code

I almost always login into aryeh (xfce via xdm).   Both web and dev
require the use of variuous X applications but I don't want to logout
and login back in and/or have to invoke the app from the cmd line
(i.e. xhost +; setenv DISPLAY :0; app cmd line)... I am looking for a
way to make it so I can launch apps from a desktop panel and/or icon
on the desktop and make it ask what user to run it under (or somehow
or another make it aware that not everything is to be ruin as
aryeh)... ideas?

Make the commandline for executing the app (in the properties of the icon) 
su - web /usr/local/bin/app?  I would think, when you launch it, you'd 
be prompted for the password and then the app would run.  At least I've 
used that technique with sudo to run gui apps as root.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/

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Re: looking for suggestions: multiple users on the same desktop

2007-11-30 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

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RW wrote:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:31:15 -0500 Aryeh M. Friedman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


but I don't want to logout and login back in and/or have to
invoke the app from the cmd line (i.e. xhost +; setenv DISPLAY
:0; app cmd line)... I am looking for a way to make it so I can
launch apps from a desktop panel and/or icon on the desktop and
make it ask what user to run it under (or somehow or another make
it aware that not everything is to be ruin as aryeh)


What about adding the magical incantation to a menu item?

You'd type it once, and then it'd be clicky-clicky after that.
Dunno if it'd work, but I use this under XFCE to set up remote
connections via ssh, ('Eterm -foo -bar -e ssh somehost'), rdesktop
('rdesktop somehost') and running Yet Another OS's terminal app
via Wine, which is way too long a string to remember and type
here.

KDK
--
Facts, apart from their relationships, are like labels on empty bottles.
-- Sven Italla
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Re: looking for suggestions: multiple users on the same desktop

2007-11-30 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
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RW wrote:
 On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:21:46 -0500 Aryeh M. Friedman
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 What I've done in the past is create extra categories in the
 KDE menu with the names of the other users, and then copy
 selected applications under there, and change their Run as a
 different user settings.
 Except I don't run kde and don't plan to (way too top heavy)

 AFAIK none of the features I mentioned are unique to KDE

Just looked through the options for xfce and see no mention of running
as a diff user

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Re: looking for suggestions: multiple users on the same desktop

2007-11-30 Thread RW
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:31:15 -0500
Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

but I don't want to logout
 and login back in and/or have to invoke the app from the cmd line
 (i.e. xhost +; setenv DISPLAY :0; app cmd line)... I am looking for a
 way to make it so I can launch apps from a desktop panel and/or icon
 on the desktop and make it ask what user to run it under (or somehow
 or another make it aware that not everything is to be ruin as
 aryeh)

What I've done in the past is create extra categories in the KDE menu
with the names of the other users, and then copy selected applications
under there, and change their Run as a different user settings.
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Re: looking for suggestions: multiple users on the same desktop

2007-11-30 Thread RW
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:21:46 -0500
Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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  What I've done in the past is create extra categories in the KDE
  menu with the names of the other users, and then copy selected
  applications under there, and change their Run as a different
  user settings.
 
 Except I don't run kde and don't plan to (way too top heavy)

AFAIK none of the features I mentioned are unique to KDE
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Re: looking for suggestions: multiple users on the same desktop

2007-11-30 Thread Michaël Grünewald
Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have several sub accounts (for specialized purposes not really a
 part of an other account) which I do my work basically I have:

 aryeh -- my personal account
 web -- maintain my web site
 dev -- development/testing of software
 dep -- seperation of development and production code

 I almost always login into aryeh (xfce via xdm).   Both web and dev
 require the use of variuous X applications but I don't want to logout
 and login back in and/or have to invoke the app from the cmd line
 (i.e. xhost +; setenv DISPLAY :0; app cmd line)... I am looking for a
 way to make it so I can launch apps from a desktop panel and/or icon
 on the desktop and make it ask what user to run it under (or somehow
 or another make it aware that not everything is to be ruin as
 aryeh)... ideas?

An easy approach is to use Xnest to open a nested X session as user
dev or whatever. You can find examples in ``OnLamp'' columns, if I
remember well.

Another way is to wrap is to use SSH's X connexion transfert, you can
wrap your applications in scripts like this:
  `ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] $PROGRAM'

A more complex approach is to design a way to `pass' DISPLAY
information and XAUTH(1) information to your alternative accounts.
You have to do it yourself (I guess) and still must wrap application
into suitable scripts.

Hope this helps.
-- 
Cheers,
Michaël
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Re: looking for suggestions: multiple users on the same desktop

2007-11-30 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
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RW wrote:
 On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:31:15 -0500 Aryeh M. Friedman
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 but I don't want to logout and login back in and/or have to
 invoke the app from the cmd line (i.e. xhost +; setenv DISPLAY
 :0; app cmd line)... I am looking for a way to make it so I can
 launch apps from a desktop panel and/or icon on the desktop and
 make it ask what user to run it under (or somehow or another make
 it aware that not everything is to be ruin as aryeh)

 What I've done in the past is create extra categories in the KDE
 menu with the names of the other users, and then copy selected
 applications under there, and change their Run as a different
 user settings.

Except I don't run kde and don't plan to (way too top heavy)


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Re: looking for suggestions: multiple users on the same desktop

2007-11-30 Thread Tino Engel

Aryeh M. Friedman schrieb:

I almost always login into aryeh (xfce via xdm).   Both web and dev
require the use of variuous X applications but I don't want to logout
and login back in and/or have to invoke the app from the cmd line
(i.e. xhost +; setenv DISPLAY :0; app cmd line)... I am looking for a
way to make it so I can launch apps from a desktop panel and/or icon
on the desktop and make it ask what user to run it under (or somehow
or another make it aware that not everything is to be ruin as
aryeh)... ideas?

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Aryeh M. Friedman

  

Not very sophisticated, but an idea.

Associate commands as follows assigned to an icons.

xterm -e userwrapper.sh command

An userwrapper.sh is like this:

#!/bin/sh

echo Enter username for $1
read USERNAME
ssh -l $USERNAME $1


Rg, Tino




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