Re: newbie wanting to switch to FreeBSD - planning stage question

2006-05-04 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Barnaby Scott wrote:
I am new to FreeBSD (or any other Unix operating system) but am very 
keen to make the switch. I have read as much as I can over the last 
couple of years, and am very nearly ready to ditch the various Windows 
versions on my network - however there is one Windows-only application I 
really cannot find a replacement for, and that is Rhino3D 
(http://www.rhino3d.com/). Looking at the CAD section of the ports 
collection does not offer any alternative that is at all comparable, so 
I fear I'm stuck with it.


I believe Rhino does not work with any Windows emulators either, so I 
imagined I had only 2 options left - have completely separate computers 
and retain Windows on one - no good because my desk is cluttered enough 
already, or to go for a dual-boot one - no good either as I would 
constantly be rebooting (or would in practice revert to Windows and 
never get to learn FreeBSD which is what I want to do!)


However, I don't mind having a Windows machine running somewhere on the 
network out of the way, but would want to use the keyboard, monitor and 
mouse attached to my FreeBSD machine. Does anyone know if it is possible 
in principle to drive a Windows program on a Windows machine, but from a 
Unix computer? If this is not an idiotic question, and this sort of 
thing is possible, where would I find some fairly idiot-proof 
instructions on how to set it up, or at least some reading to get me 
started?


I realise that a common bit of advice is to try stuff out and see, but 
if I cannot see a way forward, the time invloved in installing and 
learning FreeBSD would be very hard to justify, so please bear with me - 
I would be grateful for any advice at this stage.




I use rdesktop (/usr/ports/net/rdesktop) to control Win XP and
Win2k3 boxen, with good success, although I've had some trouble
with games and other things that want to directly control the video
hardware.  But I can't do these games with the built-in Windows
remote control either, so I'd guess that you'd be able to run
your software remotely with rdesktop (unless, as I said, it want
to take over the display hardware).  Of course, YMMV.

Kevin Kinsey

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Re: newbie wanting to switch to FreeBSD - planning stage question

2006-05-04 Thread John Nielsen
On Thursday 04 May 2006 15:55, Barnaby Scott wrote:
> I am new to FreeBSD (or any other Unix operating system) but am very
> keen to make the switch. I have read as much as I can over the last
> couple of years, and am very nearly ready to ditch the various Windows
> versions on my network - however there is one Windows-only application I
> really cannot find a replacement for, and that is Rhino3D
> (http://www.rhino3d.com/). Looking at the CAD section of the ports
> collection does not offer any alternative that is at all comparable, so
> I fear I'm stuck with it.

Congrats on your decision.

> I believe Rhino does not work with any Windows emulators either, so I
> imagined I had only 2 options left - have completely separate computers
> and retain Windows on one - no good because my desk is cluttered enough
> already, or to go for a dual-boot one - no good either as I would
> constantly be rebooting (or would in practice revert to Windows and
> never get to learn FreeBSD which is what I want to do!)

There are other options - see below.

> However, I don't mind having a Windows machine running somewhere on the
> network out of the way, but would want to use the keyboard, monitor and
> mouse attached to my FreeBSD machine. Does anyone know if it is possible
> in principle to drive a Windows program on a Windows machine, but from a
> Unix computer? If this is not an idiotic question, and this sort of
> thing is possible, where would I find some fairly idiot-proof
> instructions on how to set it up, or at least some reading to get me
> started?

If your secondary machine has Windows XP Pro or another Windows OS that 
includes "Remote Desktop", then that's an easy way to go.  There is 
an "rdesktop" port on FreeBSD that you can use to connect to it.

Similarly, you could install a VNC server (there are a few, I like TightVNC) 
on the Windows box (any version of Windows is OK) and run a VNC client from 
the FreeBSD box for the same effect.  [This is actually the reverse of what I 
do currently. I run Windows on my primary desktop for various reasons, but 
have a VNC session open to my (headless) FreeBSD machine so I can run kmail 
and other X / Unix type programs.]

If you want to stick to one computer then the options become a bit more 
exotic.  On my work computer I run FreeBSD but am required to use Microsoft 
Outlook, so I run Windows XP inside a qemu virtual machine (qemu is in the 
ports).  Performance is acceptable but not stellar.  Wine may also be worth 
exploring if you haven't yet, but it's hard to tell if a given program will 
work with Wine until you try it (although there is an application database on 
their website - winehq.org).

> I realise that a common bit of advice is to try stuff out and see, but
> if I cannot see a way forward, the time invloved in installing and
> learning FreeBSD would be very hard to justify, so please bear with me -
> I would be grateful for any advice at this stage.

If anything you're to be commended on your forsight; it will make your 
transition much more painless.

JN
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Re: newbie wanting to switch to FreeBSD - planning stage question

2006-05-04 Thread Eric Schuele

Barnaby Scott wrote:
I am new to FreeBSD (or any other Unix operating system) but am very 
keen to make the switch. I have read as much as I can over the last 
couple of years, and am very nearly ready to ditch the various Windows 
versions on my network - however there is one Windows-only application I 
really cannot find a replacement for, and that is Rhino3D 
(http://www.rhino3d.com/). Looking at the CAD section of the ports 
collection does not offer any alternative that is at all comparable, so 
I fear I'm stuck with it.


I believe Rhino does not work with any Windows emulators either, so I 
imagined I had only 2 options left - have completely separate computers 
and retain Windows on one - no good because my desk is cluttered enough 
already, or to go for a dual-boot one - no good either as I would 
constantly be rebooting (or would in practice revert to Windows and 
never get to learn FreeBSD which is what I want to do!)


However, I don't mind having a Windows machine running somewhere on the 
network out of the way, but would want to use the keyboard, monitor and 
mouse attached to my FreeBSD machine. Does anyone know if it is possible 
in principle to drive a Windows program on a Windows machine, but from a 
Unix computer? 


You can "Remote Desktop" into the Windows machine.
  net/rdesktop.
Leave it headless in a closet somewhere (with AC) and remote desktop to 
it.  :)


If this is not an idiotic question, and this sort of 
thing is possible, where would I find some fairly idiot-proof 
instructions on how to set it up, or at least some reading to get me 
started?


I realise that a common bit of advice is to try stuff out and see, but 
if I cannot see a way forward, the time invloved in installing and 
learning FreeBSD would be very hard to justify, so please bear with me - 
I would be grateful for any advice at this stage.


Many thanks,
Barnaby Scott
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