Re: not dead [yet].
On 8/7/09, Gary Kline wrote: > > Hmm. here is the output from df: > > ~ > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0s1a507630 363386 10363478%/ > devfs 11 0 100%/dev > /dev/ad0s1e507630 107700 35932023%/tmp > /dev/ad0s1f 32816996 24508992 568264681%/usr > /dev/ad0s1d 2007598 862818 98417447%/var > linprocfs 44 0 100%/usr/compat/linux/proc > > Since this box was a give and top qual, a Dell running a 2.4GHz, no > complaints. > I asked and the gifter installed two optical drives and a new secondary hard > drive. > > '07, i think. so do i really have > 300G? the thing i don't understand is: > *what* > could be using up 80% of /usr? > > For as much as I use things-gui, i like both KDE and Gnome. Hate to have > all them > electrons weighing things down with, say, koffice, when i don't use it. > > gary > I must have missed something in this thread. Last time I looked, we were talking about port deletions. At a glance, it looks like you have about 35Gb -- the df output says that those are 1kb blocks. It also looks like /usr/local is not a separate mountpoint, so both the base system software in /usr and the third-party software in /usr/local are counting towards the roughly 23Gb used in /usr. (But why ask us? Just run du(1) or something, and find out.) I have older hardware, so I use the CLI as much as I can, and favor lightweight programs, only using a few components of Gnome. If you feel overburdened, consider dropping one of the desktops, or using a lightweight alternative like Xfce. Or do like I do and just use a lightweight windows manager, not a full desktop, and cherrypick a few pieces of software from the full desktops. This person was giving you a computer for free, and you somehow managed to get them to install new, extra drives before they handed it over?! Tell them I need one, too. b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: not dead [yet].
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:37:46PM +, b. f. wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: > >What you can do is make a list of all installed ports with > >ports-mgmt/portmaster: > > portmaster -L >ports.list > > > >Looking through this list, you'll see four categories; > >- Root ports (No dependencies, not depended on) > >- Trunk ports (No dependencies, are depended on) > >- Branch ports (Have dependencies, are depended on) > >- Leaf ports (Have dependencies, not depended on) > > > >Basically, you can delete any of the leaf and root ports, because > >they're not depended on. E.g. if you have the following in your list as > >a leaf port: > > ===>>> qemu-0.10.6 > >you can execute 'pkg_delete -d qemu-0.10.6' as root, and it is gone. > > If you're only interested in deletion, "-l" should be preferred to > "-L". And portmaster with these flags does not always account for > build dependencies. so with this method you may occasionally remove a > port that is only used to build other ports, but is not a runtime > dependency of any other port. Also, occasionally a port Makefile > doesn't properly account for some dependencies, and removing them will > break the port. So there may be some breakages that you'll have to > fix, but this shouldn't happen often. > > When removing ports, I sometimes use pkg_deinstall -vR, sometimes also > with -i. because it can clean out the now-unneeded dependencies of > the port I'm removing, which speeds up this process. Provided your > pkgdb and portsdb are up-to-date, it's a little better than portmaster > -s, which relies on +REQUIRED_BY to detect stale dependencies, and may > occasionally fail. > > b. Hmm. here is the output from df: ~ Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a507630 363386 10363478%/ devfs 11 0 100%/dev /dev/ad0s1e507630 107700 35932023%/tmp /dev/ad0s1f 32816996 24508992 568264681%/usr /dev/ad0s1d 2007598 862818 98417447%/var linprocfs 44 0 100%/usr/compat/linux/proc Since this box was a give and top qual, a Dell running a 2.4GHz, no complaints. I asked and the gifter installed two optical drives and a new secondary hard drive. '07, i think. so do i really have > 300G? the thing i don't understand is: *what* could be using up 80% of /usr? For as much as I use things-gui, i like both KDE and Gnome. Hate to have all them electrons weighing things down with, say, koffice, when i don't use it. gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: not dead [yet].
Roland Smith wrote: >What you can do is make a list of all installed ports with >ports-mgmt/portmaster: > portmaster -L >ports.list > >Looking through this list, you'll see four categories; >- Root ports (No dependencies, not depended on) >- Trunk ports (No dependencies, are depended on) >- Branch ports (Have dependencies, are depended on) >- Leaf ports (Have dependencies, not depended on) > >Basically, you can delete any of the leaf and root ports, because >they're not depended on. E.g. if you have the following in your list as >a leaf port: > ===>>> qemu-0.10.6 >you can execute 'pkg_delete -d qemu-0.10.6' as root, and it is gone. If you're only interested in deletion, "-l" should be preferred to "-L". And portmaster with these flags does not always account for build dependencies. so with this method you may occasionally remove a port that is only used to build other ports, but is not a runtime dependency of any other port. Also, occasionally a port Makefile doesn't properly account for some dependencies, and removing them will break the port. So there may be some breakages that you'll have to fix, but this shouldn't happen often. When removing ports, I sometimes use pkg_deinstall -vR, sometimes also with -i. because it can clean out the now-unneeded dependencies of the port I'm removing, which speeds up this process. Provided your pkgdb and portsdb are up-to-date, it's a little better than portmaster -s, which relies on +REQUIRED_BY to detect stale dependencies, and may occasionally fail. b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: not dead [yet].
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:16:56PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Until late Sunday night I was here at keyboard/computer virtually > 24/7 working on thesis. So was my advisor, but then that's his > *job*. Anyway, now it's wait and see. Good luck! > Meanwhile: how do I get rid of a truckload of old binaries that I > rarely/never use? Most show a list of dependencies that's about > 70 lines long, and I don't want to break things. > > --To give a ferinstance, last spring I installed every OCR port > we've got. Not came close; all can go. What you can do is make a list of all installed ports with ports-mgmt/portmaster: portmaster -L >ports.list Looking through this list, you'll see four categories; - Root ports (No dependencies, not depended on) - Trunk ports (No dependencies, are depended on) - Branch ports (Have dependencies, are depended on) - Leaf ports (Have dependencies, not depended on) Basically, you can delete any of the leaf and root ports, because they're not depended on. E.g. if you have the following in your list as a leaf port: ===>>> qemu-0.10.6 you can execute 'pkg_delete -d qemu-0.10.6' as root, and it is gone. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgp1ruSLkZjjc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: not dead [yet].
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:32:54 -0400 Glen Barber wrote: > > Meanwhile: how do I get rid of a truckload of old binaries > > that I rarely/never use? Most show a list of dependencies that's > > about 70 lines long, and I don't want to break things. > > > > ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves may be what you're looking for. Or "portmanager -slid" which is a bit easier to use for a one-off cleanup, and also understands build-dependencies. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: not dead [yet].
Hi, Gary On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > Until late Sunday night I was here at keyboard/computer virtually > 24/7 working on thesis. So was my advisor, but then that's his > *job*. Anyway, now it's wait and see. > Such is academia. :-) > Meanwhile: how do I get rid of a truckload of old binaries that I > rarely/never use? Most show a list of dependencies that's about > 70 lines long, and I don't want to break things. > ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves may be what you're looking for. > --To give a ferinstance, last spring I installed every OCR port > we've got. Not came close; all can go. > > thanks for some lights! > -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
