Re: ports vs source
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 09:10:48 +0300 Cristi Tauber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ok. thanks ... i got that ... but one problem remains . >On > linux the command ./configure --help gives me the options to > configure the source for compile (eg suport for mysql/oracle/etc; > other switches not related to optimization, ... etc) How can i do > this with ports ... i mean ... make -DWITH="/path/to/mysql/" (just > an example) to compile the source with mysql support ... is there a > way to find the options for a port ?!? Look at the make file. Some will bring up a ncurses menu for selection, others will display various options to set, and then some you can look at the make file to see what options it has. I would suggest looking at multimedia/mplayer as a good example of all three. BTW becuase this is a actual ports system you don't have to deal with things getting damaged by manually installing stuff like that. Installing that was is generally best advoided since it cuases problems later on. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ports vs source
Ok. thanks ... i got that ... but one problem remains . On linux the command ./configure --help gives me the options to configure the source for compile (eg suport for mysql/oracle/etc; other switches not related to optimization, ... etc) How can i do this with ports ... i mean ... make -DWITH="/path/to/mysql/" (just an example) to compile the source with mysql support ... is there a way to find the options for a port ?!? Cristi On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 22:54, Vulpes Velox wrote: > On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 17:26:11 +0300 > Cristi Tauber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello there, > > Can anyone tell me which are the avantages of installing from > > ports > > rather than installing from tar balls ? I am kind of new to BSD, and > > I'm familiar with linux install from tar & stuff. I know to give the > > switches to configure to tune the source for installation ... but > > how i can find the parameters for port install ? I mean ... let's > > say i want to install php and i have to give the path to mysql, > > apache and others graphical libraries ... how can I do that with > > ports ? > > The ability to squeze the absolute max out using /etc/make.conf is > what I love about ports. > > CPUTYPE?=athlon-xp > CFLAGS= -O -m3dnow -msse -mmmx -pipe > CXXFLAGS+= -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized -m3dnow -msse -mmmx > > or something like that ^_^ > > afaik all packages for 4x defualt to i386 and on 5x i486 so there is > less optimizations... for something there is no noticeable > differneces... for something there are... my suggestion is to make > sure stuff that eats cpu time is optimized... > > man ports > man make.conf > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ports vs source
On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 17:26:11 +0300 Cristi Tauber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello there, > Can anyone tell me which are the avantages of installing from > ports > rather than installing from tar balls ? I am kind of new to BSD, and > I'm familiar with linux install from tar & stuff. I know to give the > switches to configure to tune the source for installation ... but > how i can find the parameters for port install ? I mean ... let's > say i want to install php and i have to give the path to mysql, > apache and others graphical libraries ... how can I do that with > ports ? The ability to squeze the absolute max out using /etc/make.conf is what I love about ports. CPUTYPE?=athlon-xp CFLAGS= -O -m3dnow -msse -mmmx -pipe CXXFLAGS+= -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized -m3dnow -msse -mmmx or something like that ^_^ afaik all packages for 4x defualt to i386 and on 5x i486 so there is less optimizations... for something there is no noticeable differneces... for something there are... my suggestion is to make sure stuff that eats cpu time is optimized... man ports man make.conf ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ports vs source
On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 06:34:32PM +0300, Cristi Tauber wrote: >Yes i know something ... like the avantages of rpm and another > linux package managers. But .. I want apache 1.3.31 with php-4.3.4 and > mysql 4.0.20 (let's say) ... from ports ... i understand that I can > %choose% what version i want to install ?? Is that correct ? Well, if you installed those applications from ports you would currently get apache 1.3.31, php 4.3.8 and mysql 4.0.20 (assuming you chose the mysql40-server port and not 41-server or 50-server). You can't choose specific versions of those applications, but I don't really see why you would want to do that; you normally want the latest that is maintained for FreeBSD. Please do not top post. pgpU1OiQWoKfp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ports vs source
Yes i know something ... like the avantages of rpm and another linux package managers. But .. I want apache 1.3.31 with php-4.3.4 and mysql 4.0.20 (let's say) ... from ports ... i understand that I can %choose% what version i want to install ?? Is that correct ? Cristi On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 17:56, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 05:26:11PM +0300, Cristi Tauber wrote: > > > Can anyone tell me which are the avantages of installing from ports > > rather than installing from tar balls ? I am kind of new to BSD, and I'm > > familiar with linux install from tar & stuff. I know to give the > > switches to configure to tune the source for installation ... but how i > > can find the parameters for port install ? I mean ... let's say i want > > to install php and i have to give the path to mysql, apache and others > > graphical libraries ... how can I do that with ports ? > >Any link or explications about this subject is appreciated. > > FreeBSD ports /is/ installing from source. Except that all of the > boring stuff like working out what dependencies you need, what flags > are required to find the appropriate shlibs, even where to download > the software from: all that stuff is handled automatically for you. > > If you want to setup a webserver running PHP code against a MySQL > back-end database, on a virgin FreeBSD system you can just: > > # cd /usr/ports/www/mod_php4 > # make install > # cd /usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql > # make install > > And all of the PHP stuff, plus apache plus mysql will be installed for > you. Well, in practice you'ld want to set a few variables on the make > command lines so that you got the right variant of apache (2.0.50 vs > 1.3.31 vs 1.3.31+mod_ssl-2.8.19 amongst others) and the right version > of MySQL (choose from 3.23.58, 4.0.20, 4.1.4 or 5.0.0). > > The other massive advantage of installing via ports is the packaging > system. It keeps track of all of the files and directories > etc. installed by each port so that you can do things like create a > pkg tarball of the installed port as a backup or to install quickly > onto another machine. You can also de-install ports cleanly, and in > conjunction with tools like portupgrade(1) the ports system makes > tasks like managing software updates a breeze. > > Cheers, > > Matthew ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ports vs source
Cristi Tauber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello there, > Can anyone tell me which are the avantages of installing from ports > rather than installing from tar balls ? I am kind of new to BSD, and I'm > familiar with linux install from tar & stuff. I know to give the > switches to configure to tune the source for installation ... but how i > can find the parameters for port install ? I mean ... let's say i want > to install php and i have to give the path to mysql, apache and others > graphical libraries ... how can I do that with ports ? >Any link or explications about this subject is appreciated. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-overview.html -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ports vs source
On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 05:26:11PM +0300, Cristi Tauber wrote: > Can anyone tell me which are the avantages of installing from ports > rather than installing from tar balls ? I am kind of new to BSD, and I'm > familiar with linux install from tar & stuff. I know to give the > switches to configure to tune the source for installation ... but how i > can find the parameters for port install ? I mean ... let's say i want > to install php and i have to give the path to mysql, apache and others > graphical libraries ... how can I do that with ports ? >Any link or explications about this subject is appreciated. FreeBSD ports /is/ installing from source. Except that all of the boring stuff like working out what dependencies you need, what flags are required to find the appropriate shlibs, even where to download the software from: all that stuff is handled automatically for you. If you want to setup a webserver running PHP code against a MySQL back-end database, on a virgin FreeBSD system you can just: # cd /usr/ports/www/mod_php4 # make install # cd /usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql # make install And all of the PHP stuff, plus apache plus mysql will be installed for you. Well, in practice you'ld want to set a few variables on the make command lines so that you got the right variant of apache (2.0.50 vs 1.3.31 vs 1.3.31+mod_ssl-2.8.19 amongst others) and the right version of MySQL (choose from 3.23.58, 4.0.20, 4.1.4 or 5.0.0). The other massive advantage of installing via ports is the packaging system. It keeps track of all of the files and directories etc. installed by each port so that you can do things like create a pkg tarball of the installed port as a backup or to install quickly onto another machine. You can also de-install ports cleanly, and in conjunction with tools like portupgrade(1) the ports system makes tasks like managing software updates a breeze. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp7lmHOhwQc7.pgp Description: PGP signature
