Re: remote printing question

2007-04-04 Thread Derek Ragona

At 06:25 PM 4/4/2007, David Banning wrote:

> >I don't want to use a server. So the router would have to do NAT.
> >Is it possible that way for the outside world to address the
> >printer directly since it has a network address, and not a
> >www IP?
>
> You can probably setup the router to forward the ports used by that
> printer.  The ports you'd need to forward are dependent on the printer
> driver.

Thanks for that Derek. Any idea what good routers could do the job?


Netopia has them that will either bridge or route with a built-in adsl modem.

If you want more routing capability get a better netopia like a 9000 series 
which you can get with an ethernet interface to connect to any xDSL 
modem.  You can find cheap used ones on ebay.


-Derek



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Re: remote printing question

2007-04-04 Thread David Banning
> >I don't want to use a server. So the router would have to do NAT.
> >Is it possible that way for the outside world to address the
> >printer directly since it has a network address, and not a
> >www IP?
> 
> You can probably setup the router to forward the ports used by that 
> printer.  The ports you'd need to forward are dependent on the printer 
> driver.

Thanks for that Derek. Any idea what good routers could do the job?
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Re: remote printing question

2007-04-04 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 06:30:32PM -0400, David Banning wrote:

> > Well, if your printer has its own Ethernet card and an IP address
> > you can just set things up to go directly to it with no server.
> > 
> > Or, what is that router?   If it is something like a FreeBSD box or
> > other more full service system, it can probably handle the task of
> > serving the printer as well.
> 
> Thanks Jerry.
> 
> I don't want to use a server. So the router would have to do NAT.
> Is it possible that way for the outside world to address the 
> printer directly since it has a network address, and not a 
> www IP?

Just set up your firewall to only allow the addresses you want to
go to that printer.   Some printers with ethernet cards can also
be set to only accept incoming from a list of addresses.

jerry

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Re: remote printing question

2007-04-04 Thread Derek Ragona

At 05:30 PM 4/4/2007, David Banning wrote:

> Well, if your printer has its own Ethernet card and an IP address
> you can just set things up to go directly to it with no server.
>
> Or, what is that router?   If it is something like a FreeBSD box or
> other more full service system, it can probably handle the task of
> serving the printer as well.

Thanks Jerry.

I don't want to use a server. So the router would have to do NAT.
Is it possible that way for the outside world to address the
printer directly since it has a network address, and not a
www IP?


You can probably setup the router to forward the ports used by that 
printer.  The ports you'd need to forward are dependent on the printer driver.


-Derek

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Re: remote printing question

2007-04-04 Thread David Banning
> Well, if your printer has its own Ethernet card and an IP address
> you can just set things up to go directly to it with no server.
> 
> Or, what is that router?   If it is something like a FreeBSD box or
> other more full service system, it can probably handle the task of
> serving the printer as well.

Thanks Jerry.

I don't want to use a server. So the router would have to do NAT.
Is it possible that way for the outside world to address the 
printer directly since it has a network address, and not a 
www IP?
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Re: remote printing question

2007-04-04 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 02:56:13PM -0400, David Banning wrote:

> I have a someone who wants to have a remote printer without using a
> server at the printing location. Is it possible to do;
> 
> DSL Line->Modem -> router -> printer
>  |
>   -
>   |   |
>laptop   laptop   
>  
> Their sales oriented operation is mostly take-away laptops, but they
> want the printing to come into the office during their absence but 
> don't see the need to have a server to service just the printer.

Well, if your printer has its own Ethernet card and an IP address
you can just set things up to go directly to it with no server.

Or, what is that router?   If it is something like a FreeBSD box or
other more full service system, it can probably handle the task of
serving the printer as well.

jerry

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Re: remote printing question

2007-04-04 Thread Derek Ragona

At 01:56 PM 4/4/2007, David Banning wrote:

I have a someone who wants to have a remote printer without using a
server at the printing location. Is it possible to do;

DSL Line->Modem -> router -> printer
 |
  -
  |   |
   laptop   laptop

Their sales oriented operation is mostly take-away laptops, but they
want the printing to come into the office during their absence but
don't see the need to have a server to service just the printer.



Just get a printer with a built-in ethernet and set it to a static IP on 
the LAN side of the router.


-Derek 
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Re: remote printing question

2007-04-04 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 02:56:13PM -0400, David Banning wrote:
> I have a someone who wants to have a remote printer without using a
> server at the printing location. Is it possible to do;
> 
> DSL Line->Modem -> router -> printer
>  |
>   -
>   |   |
>laptop   laptop   

In this case you can just print to the printers IP address. 

What is running the firewall? The DSL modem?

> Their sales oriented operation is mostly take-away laptops, but they
> want the printing to come into the office during their absence but 

Unless the modem can do NAT and has a firewall, I'd definitely put a
server between the modem and the router. That way you can handle
printing with CUPS, firewall with pf, mail, backups etc.

Otherwise you'll have to tell the modem to do NAT, and let traffic from
the laptops through while blocking unwanted stuff. It depends on the
router if the built-in software is up to that, and if you trust it for that.

Roland
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