Re: sendmail to a smarthost?

2004-02-11 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:56:53AM +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
 Alex de Kruijff wrote:
 
 On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 09:31:10PM +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
  
 
 Hello. In my LAN the DNS server is my ADSL modem ... small device that 
 cannot do MX type of address lookup. I wish to configure a fax server 
 (FreeBSD 5.2 + Hylafax) in the LAN to send emails to a group of people 
 upon receiving fax. The problem is hylafax fax server can only use 
 sendmail to send fax notification, but sendmail can send out emails only 
 when it knows receipiant's MX ip.
 
 The only way I can think of is to let sendmail send mails by using my 
 ISP's smtp server (need login). But I read sendmail(8), I didn't find how 
 to configure sendmail to do this, nor did I find such information on the 
 handbook. I'm not familiar with sendmail config.
 
 I hope I'm clear:) What should I do now? Do you have something to suggest 
 me to read? Thank you.

 
 
 To create your own sendmail configure file:
 
 1. cd /etc/mail/
 2. make  make install
 3. vi /etc/mail/hostname.mc
 
 This configuration has a example on how to use the SMART_HOST option. I'm
 not sure about how to login. Then after you have configured it all do:
 
 1. cd /etc/mail/
 2. make  make install  make restart
  
 
 Yes there is a SMART_HOST option, but where to config the login and 
 sender's address?
 
 My ISP restricts both smtp username/password and sender's email address.
 
I just happen to look trougth the handbook (always do this!) to fix one
of my own problems and came accross the article about authentication and
sendmail.

www.freebsd.org/handbook/smtp-auth.html

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Re: sendmail to a smarthost?

2004-02-10 Thread Simon Barner
Zhang Weiwu wrote:
 Try reading Simon Barner's tutorial on setting up FreeBSD for workstations.
 
 http://home.leo.org/~barner/freebsd/articles/mailsetup/article.html
  
 
 Oh this article is really helpful, I'm reading it .. it is really long.
 But my situation is pertty typical; I believe many people are like me to 
 rely on ISP's authenticated smtp server. Must things be so complicated 
 for those people like me, as  said in that article?
 Isn't there a replacement of sendmail to do simple mail transfer by just 
 asking a smtp server to do everything?

Postfix + SASL + TSL/SSL. (There is a nice article on that combination
on http://www.postfix.org)

When I wrote the article, my goal was to use FreeBSD's base system for
as many task as possible. That's why I chose sendmail over postfix.

Simon


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Re: sendmail to a smarthost?

2004-02-09 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Allan Bowhill wrote:

On  0, Zhang Weiwu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:Hello. In my LAN the DNS server is my ADSL modem ... small device that 
:cannot do MX type of address lookup. I wish to configure a fax server 
:(FreeBSD 5.2 + Hylafax) in the LAN to send emails to a group of people upon 
:receiving fax. The problem is hylafax fax server can only use sendmail to 
:send fax notification, but sendmail can send out emails only when it knows 
:receipiant's MX ip.
:
:The only way I can think of is to let sendmail send mails by using my ISP's 
:smtp server (need login). But I read sendmail(8), I didn't find how to 
:configure sendmail to do this, nor did I find such information on the 
:handbook. I'm not familiar with sendmail config.
:
:I hope I'm clear:) What should I do now? Do you have something to suggest 
:me to read? Thank you.
:

Try reading Simon Barner's tutorial on setting up FreeBSD for workstations.

http://home.leo.org/~barner/freebsd/articles/mailsetup/article.html
 

Oh this article is really helpful, I'm reading it .. it is really long.
But my situation is pertty typical; I believe many people are like me to 
rely on ISP's authenticated smtp server. Must things be so complicated 
for those people like me, as  said in that article?
Isn't there a replacement of sendmail to do simple mail transfer by just 
asking a smtp server to do everything?

Thank you.

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Re: sendmail to a smarthost?

2004-02-09 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:56:53AM +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
 Alex de Kruijff wrote:
 
 On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 09:31:10PM +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
  
 
 Hello. In my LAN the DNS server is my ADSL modem ... small device that 
 cannot do MX type of address lookup. I wish to configure a fax server 
 (FreeBSD 5.2 + Hylafax) in the LAN to send emails to a group of people 
 upon receiving fax. The problem is hylafax fax server can only use 
 sendmail to send fax notification, but sendmail can send out emails only 
 when it knows receipiant's MX ip.
 
 The only way I can think of is to let sendmail send mails by using my 
 ISP's smtp server (need login). But I read sendmail(8), I didn't find how 
 to configure sendmail to do this, nor did I find such information on the 
 handbook. I'm not familiar with sendmail config.
 
 I hope I'm clear:) What should I do now? Do you have something to suggest 
 me to read? Thank you.

 
 
 To create your own sendmail configure file:
 
 1. cd /etc/mail/
 2. make  make install
 3. vi /etc/mail/hostname.mc
 
 This configuration has a example on how to use the SMART_HOST option. I'm
 not sure about how to login. Then after you have configured it all do:
 
 1. cd /etc/mail/
 2. make  make install  make restart
  
 
 Yes there is a SMART_HOST option, but where to config the login and 
 sender's address?
 
 My ISP restricts both smtp username/password and sender's email address.
 

According to http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html authentication 
is posible from 8.10. But it is nessesary to install a thirth partie 
software. This document should help you set it up.

Alex
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Re: sendmail to a smarthost?

2004-02-08 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 09:31:10PM +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
 Hello. In my LAN the DNS server is my ADSL modem ... small device that 
 cannot do MX type of address lookup. I wish to configure a fax server 
 (FreeBSD 5.2 + Hylafax) in the LAN to send emails to a group of people upon 
 receiving fax. The problem is hylafax fax server can only use sendmail to 
 send fax notification, but sendmail can send out emails only when it knows 
 receipiant's MX ip.
 
 The only way I can think of is to let sendmail send mails by using my ISP's 
 smtp server (need login). But I read sendmail(8), I didn't find how to 
 configure sendmail to do this, nor did I find such information on the 
 handbook. I'm not familiar with sendmail config.
 
 I hope I'm clear:) What should I do now? Do you have something to suggest 
 me to read? Thank you.

To create your own sendmail configure file:

1. cd /etc/mail/
2. make  make install
3. vi /etc/mail/hostname.mc

This configuration has a example on how to use the SMART_HOST option. I'm
not sure about how to login. Then after you have configured it all do:

1. cd /etc/mail/
2. make  make install  make restart

The website of sendmail is: www.sendmail.org

Good luck,
Alex
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Re: sendmail to a smarthost?

2004-02-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 09:31:10PM +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
 Hello. In my LAN the DNS server is my ADSL modem ... small device that 
 cannot do MX type of address lookup. I wish to configure a fax server 
 (FreeBSD 5.2 + Hylafax) in the LAN to send emails to a group of people upon 
 receiving fax. The problem is hylafax fax server can only use sendmail to 
 send fax notification, but sendmail can send out emails only when it knows 
 receipiant's MX ip.
 
 The only way I can think of is to let sendmail send mails by using my ISP's 
 smtp server (need login). But I read sendmail(8), I didn't find how to 
 configure sendmail to do this, nor did I find such information on the 
 handbook. I'm not familiar with sendmail config.

Setting up a smarthost is simple. Just do the following:

# cd /etc/mail
# make  (this will create a file `hostname`.mc if 
 it doesn't already exist)
# vi `hostname`.mc

Modify the line to remove the comment (dnl) and put in your ISP's
smart host:

dnl define(`SMART_HOST', `your.isp.mail.server')

so that it reads:

define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.example.com')

Note the distinction between the left hand (`) and right hand (') side
quote marks.

Save the results.  Now process those into a sendmail configuration
file and install them and restart sendmail as follows:

# make install
# make restart-mta

In order to suppress sendmail doing DNS lookups for MX records, you
should be able to use the standard sendmail feature of putting the
hostname in [square brackets].  This may or may not work -- you'll
have to do some experiments.  First of all try putting the square
brackets into the SMART_HOST define above:

   define(`SMART_HOST', `[smtp.example.com]') 

If that doesn't work, you can try using the mailertable functionality.
Create a file /etc/mail/mailertable containing the line:

.relay:[smtp.example.com]

and process that into a .db format hashed file by:

# make



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Re: sendmail to a smarthost?

2004-02-08 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Alex de Kruijff wrote:

On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 09:31:10PM +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
 

Hello. In my LAN the DNS server is my ADSL modem ... small device that 
cannot do MX type of address lookup. I wish to configure a fax server 
(FreeBSD 5.2 + Hylafax) in the LAN to send emails to a group of people upon 
receiving fax. The problem is hylafax fax server can only use sendmail to 
send fax notification, but sendmail can send out emails only when it knows 
receipiant's MX ip.

The only way I can think of is to let sendmail send mails by using my ISP's 
smtp server (need login). But I read sendmail(8), I didn't find how to 
configure sendmail to do this, nor did I find such information on the 
handbook. I'm not familiar with sendmail config.

I hope I'm clear:) What should I do now? Do you have something to suggest 
me to read? Thank you.
   

To create your own sendmail configure file:

1. cd /etc/mail/
2. make  make install
3. vi /etc/mail/hostname.mc
This configuration has a example on how to use the SMART_HOST option. I'm
not sure about how to login. Then after you have configured it all do:
1. cd /etc/mail/
2. make  make install  make restart
 

Yes there is a SMART_HOST option, but where to config the login and 
sender's address?

My ISP restricts both smtp username/password and sender's email address.

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