Re: test if script called by cron

[aurfalien]

An easy way to do this is check /var/log/cron

There are many other ways. 

- aurf

On Sep 16, 2013, at 4:26 AM, Paul Macdonald wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is there a simple way of testing whether a given script was called via cron,
> 
> I'd rather find a solution that would work from within the script rather than 
> setting an environment variable in the crontab.
> 
> thanks
> Paul.
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Re: test if script called by cron

[Polytropon]

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 23:28:17 -0400, kpn...@pobox.com wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 02:05:04PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:26:59 +0100, Paul Macdonald wrote:
> > > Is there a simple way of testing whether a given script was called via 
> > > cron,
> > > 
> > > I'd rather find a solution that would work from within the script rather 
> > > than setting an environment variable in the crontab.
> > 
> > I'd suggest the script creates a file (lock file or,
> > much easier, just a simple normal file) at its beginning:
> > 
> > #!/bin/sh
> > /usr/bin/touch /tmp/scriptrun
> > # ... your script content here ...
> 
> Wouldn't the lockf command be better than touch? That way you get the
> condition code telling you whether or not the script is already running.

Yes, it would probably be better in this case. This, in
combination with the suggestion of "test-t 0" to check
if the script has been interactively called or not, looks
like a better solution.

However, the intial question does not make fully sure (at
least to me as a non-native speaker) if the intention is
(a) to check _if_ the script has been run via cron, or
(b) to check if the script has been run via _cron_. :-)



> > Of course you would have to manually remove that file
> > after you have verified its existence and content.
> 
> If you use lockf as a drop-in replacement for touch then, yes, you'll
> need to keep the lock file until removing it at the end of the script.

Depends. Let's say the script is scheduled at 3:00 and will
finish in about half an hour. The "evidence file" will only
be visible from 3:00 to ca. 3:30, so removing the "evidence
file" after the script has finished could lead to a false-negative
result ("has not been run"). This is also true for the more
simple solution using the touch command (no rm call at the
end of the script).



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Re: test if script called by cron

[Jerry]

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:26:59 +0100
Paul Macdonald articulated:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is there a simple way of testing whether a given script was called
> via cron,
> 
> I'd rather find a solution that would work from within the script
> rather than setting an environment variable in the crontab.
> 
> thanks
> Paul.
> 
> (anyone here going to EuroBSD con?)

If you want to learn if the running script was called via cron, this
would work, assuming you are running Bash.

if [[ ! -t 0 ]]; then
echo "Running from Cron"
fi

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Re: test if script called by cron

[Dan Nelson]

In the last episode (Sep 16), Paul Macdonald said:
> Is there a simple way of testing whether a given script was called via cron,
> 
> I'd rather find a solution that would work from within the script rather 
> than setting an environment variable in the crontab.

You check to see if stdin is a terminal, but that's not conclusive.  One way
to know for sure is to look at the name of the process that launched you:

if [ ! -t 0 ] ; then
 echo "no tty, possibly run from cron"
fi

parent=$(ps -o command= -p $PPID)
case $parent in 
 *cron* ) echo "parent is $parent, almost certainly cron" ;;
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Re: test if script called by cron

[Polytropon]

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:26:59 +0100, Paul Macdonald wrote:
> Is there a simple way of testing whether a given script was called via cron,
> 
> I'd rather find a solution that would work from within the script rather 
> than setting an environment variable in the crontab.

I'd suggest the script creates a file (lock file or,
much easier, just a simple normal file) at its beginning:

#!/bin/sh
/usr/bin/touch /tmp/scriptrun
# ... your script content here ...

You could also output the date command to that file
to see when the script has been called:

#!/bin/sh
/bin/date "+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S" > /tmp/scriptrun
# ... your script content here ...

Of course you would have to manually remove that file
after you have verified its existence and content.



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Re: Test

[Chris Hill]

On Sat, 1 Jun 2013, Al Plant wrote:


Ping . Pong


http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-test

Mahalo.



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Re: Test

[Jerry]

On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:16:55 +0100
Paul Wootton articulated:

> Just a test message

Per URL:
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Re: Test

[Виталий Туровец]

2012/10/18 Paul Wootton :
> Just a test message
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Your test seems to be succesful :)

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Re: test

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On 14.08.2010 05:23, PR wrote:
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> 

epic fail. ;)

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Re: test please ignore

[Chris Rees]

2009/10/14 henter2009 :
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> test please ignore
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This is not the list to test on.

http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-test

Please use it.

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Re: Test

[Chris Rees]

2009/6/3 Al Plant :
> Test
> --
>

Now try using freebsd-test@ ;)

Chris



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Re: TEST

[nicodache]

did not work. please try again.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Rem P Roberti  wrote:
> Test
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Re: test

[Gary Kline]

On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 11:52:17PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> test
> -- 
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Well, surprise, surprise!  A glance at [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ rather than 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] qual'd DN] proves that the following two lines do 
force sendmail to rewrite:


aristotle.thought.org.mc:MASQUERADE_AS(`thought.org')
aristotle.thought.org.mc-FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)

Chuck, your pointer was right, but I didn't understand the fine
points.  The ``FEATURE()'' line mmust accompany the 
``MASQUERADE_AS()'' LINE.  And, obviously, with the proper strings
within the parens.  I found this on a Google listing after about
45-50 mins of searching.

This is one of those fine tidbits that aren't widely known, but 
very useful

gary

PS: Hope this works

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Re: test

[Kimi]

On 25/01/2008, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> Well, yesterday when I tried mailing, i could have hit keystrokes
> until the cows came home and no characters were echoed.   Evidently,
> I did _something_ to kdemail //KMail to let this work.   Possibly after I
> pkg_deleted evolution.
>

please don't spam this list, use test@ instead :)

> hm.
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Re: Test

[Chris Hill]

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, EaRSHoT wrote:


tets


Read The Friendly Handbook, 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL



Note: If you wish to test your ability to send to FreeBSD lists, send a 
test message to freebsd-test. Please do not send test messages to any 
other list.



Make special note of that last sentence.

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Re: Test on FreeBSD site

[NetOpsCenter]

Bill Moran wrote:


In response to NetOpsCenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

 


Aloha,

How long does it take for a test to be accepted or rejected on the 
FreeBSD test mail box?

Is three minutes normal for a test to pop up?
I had some FreeBSD 7 config issues and this nearly caused me to think I 
hadn't cleared the problem  because it took quite a while to pop up.
   



It depends on how busy the server is at the time you send it, among
other factors.  I haven't noticed if the mail servers are doing
greylisting, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were.

In this day and age, with the spam scourge and all the alleged "solutions"
that everyone's mail servers use, anything less than 10 minutes for a
delivery should be considered successful.

 


Thanks for the reply.
FreeBSD 7 is excellent. Applause  to the Developers.
I have been using FreeBSD since 2. something.

Is there a good how to set up spam assassin for  FreeBSD?  Most I have tried have no FreeBSD specific file placements listsed and I can't get it to work. 


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Re: Test on FreeBSD site

[Steve Bertrand]

>> I haven't noticed if the mail servers are doing greylisting, but it
>> wouldn't surprise me if they were.
> 
> They do.

That's quite the response.

Care to elaborate for purposes of archive accuracy?

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Re: Test on FreeBSD site

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2007-08-24 06:36, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In response to NetOpsCenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > How long does it take for a test to be accepted or rejected on the
> > FreeBSD test mail box?  Is three minutes normal for a test to pop
> > up?  I had some FreeBSD 7 config issues and this nearly caused me to
> > think I hadn't cleared the problem  because it took quite a while to
> > pop up.
>
> It depends on how busy the server is at the time you send it, among
> other factors.  I haven't noticed if the mail servers are doing
> greylisting, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were.

They are.  It may take a few minutes before a message gets through, but
that depends on how often the *sending* server retries.

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Re: Test on FreeBSD site

[Alex Zbyslaw]

Bill Moran wrote:

I haven't noticed if the mail servers are doing greylisting, but it 
wouldn't surprise me if they were.


They do.

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Re: Test on FreeBSD site

[Bill Moran]

In response to NetOpsCenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Aloha,
> 
> How long does it take for a test to be accepted or rejected on the 
> FreeBSD test mail box?
> Is three minutes normal for a test to pop up?
> I had some FreeBSD 7 config issues and this nearly caused me to think I 
> hadn't cleared the problem  because it took quite a while to pop up.

It depends on how busy the server is at the time you send it, among
other factors.  I haven't noticed if the mail servers are doing
greylisting, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were.

In this day and age, with the spam scourge and all the alleged "solutions"
that everyone's mail servers use, anything less than 10 minutes for a
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Re: test

[Bart Silverstrim]

On Apr 16, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Bob Middaugh wrote:


Please don't top post.


Maybe he can't read and that's why the unsub link is useless?  That  
would also explain the top posting to a degree.

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Re: test

[Bob Middaugh]

Please don't top post.


Bob

 -- Original message --
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> You group of elitist fucks...the unsub link is FUCKING USELESS
> 
> On 4/14/07, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > In response to Hangmn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > GET ME OFF THIS FUCKING LIST
> >
> > That's a powerfully effective method of getting things done.
> >

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Re: test

[Beech Rintoul]

On Saturday 14 April 2007, Hangmn said:
> You group of elitist fucks...the unsub link is FUCKING USELESS
>
> On 4/14/07, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In response to Hangmn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > GET ME OFF THIS FUCKING LIST
> >
> > That's a powerfully effective method of getting things done.
> >
> > First off, the use of the word FUCKING is a well-known method to
> > convince people to come to your aid.  I believe it was Napoleon
> > who stated, "By inserting 'FUCKING' in front of every FUCKING
> > noun in every FUCKING sentence, I have managed to motivate my
> > FUCKING soldiers more so than any other FUCKING method I have
> > tried."
> >
> > Secondly, the use of all caps is known to be an efficient method
> > of getting
> > your point across.  Internet experts agree that mailing lists are
> > very loud, and the only way you're guaranteed to be heard is to
> > SHOUT all the time.  I'm glad you've caught on to this fine point
> > of netiquette.
> >
> > Thirdly, replying to an arbitrary message instead of taking the
> > time to contact the right people is a fabulously effective method
> > of getting things
> > done.  Obviously, the guy who sent this test message, as well as
> > others who read it are most likely to be the people who can
> > actually _do_ anything
> > about your problem.
> >
> > And lastly, leaving out all the details of your problem is
> > guaranteed to expedite the fix of your problem.  Obviously those
> > details, such as a copy of an offending message with fully
> > headers, or a list of the steps you've tried to take in
> > resolution of the problem, would only confused the technically
> > adept people who could actually research and fix your problem. 
> > Leaving them out is good practice.
> >
> > > On 4/11/07, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Please use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list for testing.  It
> > > > avoids spamming 1000s of inboxes with test messages.

This poster with advanced intelligence also found that none of gmail's 
spam tools had any effect on his problem. AOL would probably be his 
best choice.

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Re: test

[Chad Perrin]

On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 08:22:53AM -0400, Gerard Seibert wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:28:29 +1200
> "Juha Saarinen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On 4/14/07, Hangmn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > GET ME OFF THIS FUCKING LIST  
> > 
> > No, no, this is the FreeBSD Questions list. The Fucking List is down
> > the hall, third door to your right. Just ignore the funny noises
> > there.
> > 
> > If you don't want to receive mail from the FreeBSD list in question,
> > try this which is found at the end of every message to it:
> > 
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> Has anyone but me noticed that the morons who request to be removed
> from a list are inevitably 'TOP POSTERS'. They never read to the end of
> a post and therefore are not likely to see the easy to follow
> directions plainly stated there for their perusal.

I've noticed that a lot of unpleasant or inconvenient behavior tends to
go along with top posting, and TOFU in particular.  I've also noticed
that this is not universal -- it's just a trend.  There are a few people
whose only offense is top posting.  They seem to be the exception,
however, rather than the rule.


> 
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Re: test

[Jerry McAllister]

On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 01:18:46PM -0400, Hangmn wrote:

> You group of elitist fucks...the unsub link is FUCKING USELESS
> 

Sounds like you are the elitist jerk.
A couple of days ago I wrote a long explanation about how 
a person could have trouble getting off a list and also how some
useless idiot could manipulate the system to abusively get people
stuck on the list.   

I suggest you go find that posting and then if you really want off
the list and aren't just hanging here to exploit the opportunity
to run your foul mouth and trash people who are trying to get work
done, then you will try to work with the list administrators and help
them help you get this taken care of.

Abusive language will not help.   It just makes more of us ignore you.

jerry

> On 4/14/07, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >In response to Hangmn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >> GET ME OFF THIS FUCKING LIST
> >
> >That's a powerfully effective method of getting things done.
> >
> >First off, the use of the word FUCKING is a well-known method to convince
> >people to come to your aid.  I believe it was Napoleon who stated, "By
> >inserting 'FUCKING' in front of every FUCKING noun in every FUCKING
> >sentence, I have managed to motivate my FUCKING soldiers more so than
> >any other FUCKING method I have tried."
> >
> >Secondly, the use of all caps is known to be an efficient method of
> >getting
> >your point across.  Internet experts agree that mailing lists are very
> >loud, and the only way you're guaranteed to be heard is to SHOUT all
> >the time.  I'm glad you've caught on to this fine point of netiquette.
> >
> >Thirdly, replying to an arbitrary message instead of taking the time to
> >contact the right people is a fabulously effective method of getting
> >things
> >done.  Obviously, the guy who sent this test message, as well as others
> >who read it are most likely to be the people who can actually _do_
> >anything
> >about your problem.
> >
> >And lastly, leaving out all the details of your problem is guaranteed to
> >expedite the fix of your problem.  Obviously those details, such as a
> >copy of an offending message with fully headers, or a list of the steps
> >you've tried to take in resolution of the problem, would only confused
> >the technically adept people who could actually research and fix your
> >problem.  Leaving them out is good practice.
> >
> >>
> >> On 4/11/07, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Please use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list for testing.  It avoids
> >> > spamming 1000s of inboxes with test messages.
> >> >
> >> > In response to Bill Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Bill Hall
> >> > > Manager, Occupant Protection Program
> >> > > UNC Highway Safety Research Center
> >> > > 730 Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd., Suite 300
> >> > > CB# 3430
> >> > > Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> >> > >
> >> > > 919-962-8721 (Voice)
> >> > > 800-672-4527 (toll-free in NC)
> >> > > 919-962-8710 (fax)
> >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: test

[Hangmn]

You group of elitist fucks...the unsub link is FUCKING USELESS

On 4/14/07, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


In response to Hangmn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> GET ME OFF THIS FUCKING LIST

That's a powerfully effective method of getting things done.

First off, the use of the word FUCKING is a well-known method to convince
people to come to your aid.  I believe it was Napoleon who stated, "By
inserting 'FUCKING' in front of every FUCKING noun in every FUCKING
sentence, I have managed to motivate my FUCKING soldiers more so than
any other FUCKING method I have tried."

Secondly, the use of all caps is known to be an efficient method of
getting
your point across.  Internet experts agree that mailing lists are very
loud, and the only way you're guaranteed to be heard is to SHOUT all
the time.  I'm glad you've caught on to this fine point of netiquette.

Thirdly, replying to an arbitrary message instead of taking the time to
contact the right people is a fabulously effective method of getting
things
done.  Obviously, the guy who sent this test message, as well as others
who read it are most likely to be the people who can actually _do_
anything
about your problem.

And lastly, leaving out all the details of your problem is guaranteed to
expedite the fix of your problem.  Obviously those details, such as a
copy of an offending message with fully headers, or a list of the steps
you've tried to take in resolution of the problem, would only confused
the technically adept people who could actually research and fix your
problem.  Leaving them out is good practice.

>
> On 4/11/07, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Please use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list for testing.  It avoids
> > spamming 1000s of inboxes with test messages.
> >
> > In response to Bill Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bill Hall
> > > Manager, Occupant Protection Program
> > > UNC Highway Safety Research Center
> > > 730 Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd., Suite 300
> > > CB# 3430
> > > Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> > >
> > > 919-962-8721 (Voice)
> > > 800-672-4527 (toll-free in NC)
> > > 919-962-8710 (fax)
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: test

[Gerard Seibert]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:28:29 +1200
"Juha Saarinen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 4/14/07, Hangmn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > GET ME OFF THIS FUCKING LIST  
> 
> No, no, this is the FreeBSD Questions list. The Fucking List is down
> the hall, third door to your right. Just ignore the funny noises
> there.
> 
> If you don't want to receive mail from the FreeBSD list in question,
> try this which is found at the end of every message to it:
> 
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
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Has anyone but me noticed that the morons who request to be removed
from a list are inevitably 'TOP POSTERS'. They never read to the end of
a post and therefore are not likely to see the easy to follow
directions plainly stated there for their perusal.

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Re: test

[Bill Moran]

In response to Hangmn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> GET ME OFF THIS FUCKING LIST

That's a powerfully effective method of getting things done.

First off, the use of the word FUCKING is a well-known method to convince
people to come to your aid.  I believe it was Napoleon who stated, "By
inserting 'FUCKING' in front of every FUCKING noun in every FUCKING
sentence, I have managed to motivate my FUCKING soldiers more so than
any other FUCKING method I have tried."

Secondly, the use of all caps is known to be an efficient method of getting
your point across.  Internet experts agree that mailing lists are very
loud, and the only way you're guaranteed to be heard is to SHOUT all
the time.  I'm glad you've caught on to this fine point of netiquette.

Thirdly, replying to an arbitrary message instead of taking the time to
contact the right people is a fabulously effective method of getting things
done.  Obviously, the guy who sent this test message, as well as others
who read it are most likely to be the people who can actually _do_ anything
about your problem.

And lastly, leaving out all the details of your problem is guaranteed to
expedite the fix of your problem.  Obviously those details, such as a
copy of an offending message with fully headers, or a list of the steps
you've tried to take in resolution of the problem, would only confused
the technically adept people who could actually research and fix your
problem.  Leaving them out is good practice.

> 
> On 4/11/07, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Please use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list for testing.  It avoids
> > spamming 1000s of inboxes with test messages.
> >
> > In response to Bill Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bill Hall
> > > Manager, Occupant Protection Program
> > > UNC Highway Safety Research Center
> > > 730 Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd., Suite 300
> > > CB# 3430
> > > Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> > >
> > > 919-962-8721 (Voice)
> > > 800-672-4527 (toll-free in NC)
> > > 919-962-8710 (fax)
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: test

[Juha Saarinen]

On 4/14/07, Hangmn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

GET ME OFF THIS FUCKING LIST


No, no, this is the FreeBSD Questions list. The Fucking List is down
the hall, third door to your right. Just ignore the funny noises
there.

If you don't want to receive mail from the FreeBSD list in question,
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Re: test

[Garrett Cooper]

Chris wrote:

Hangmn wrote:
  

GET ME OFF THIS FUCKING LIST

On 4/11/07, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Please use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list for testing.  It avoids
spamming 1000s of inboxes with test messages.

In response to Bill Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

  

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CB# 3430
Chapel Hill, NC 27599

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tsk, tsk, tsk - at  least I was somewhat more civilized then others with
my test.

*evil grin*

Yowch.. someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today.

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Re: test

[Chris]

Hangmn wrote:
> GET ME OFF THIS FUCKING LIST
> 
> On 4/11/07, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Please use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list for testing.  It avoids
>> spamming 1000s of inboxes with test messages.
>>
>> In response to Bill Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bill Hall
>> > Manager, Occupant Protection Program
>> > UNC Highway Safety Research Center
>> > 730 Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd., Suite 300
>> > CB# 3430
>> > Chapel Hill, NC 27599
>> >
>> > 919-962-8721 (Voice)
>> > 800-672-4527 (toll-free in NC)
>> > 919-962-8710 (fax)
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > http://www.buckleupnc.org
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tsk, tsk, tsk - at  least I was somewhat more civilized then others with
my test.

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Re: test

[Hangmn]

GET ME OFF THIS FUCKING LIST

On 4/11/07, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Please use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list for testing.  It avoids
spamming 1000s of inboxes with test messages.

In response to Bill Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> --
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> Manager, Occupant Protection Program
> UNC Highway Safety Research Center
> 730 Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd., Suite 300
> CB# 3430
> Chapel Hill, NC 27599
>
> 919-962-8721 (Voice)
> 800-672-4527 (toll-free in NC)
> 919-962-8710 (fax)
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Re: test

[Bill Moran]

Please use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list for testing.  It avoids
spamming 1000s of inboxes with test messages.

In response to Bill Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> -- 
> Bill Hall
> Manager, Occupant Protection Program
> UNC Highway Safety Research Center
> 730 Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd., Suite 300
> CB# 3430
> Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> 
> 919-962-8721 (Voice)
> 800-672-4527 (toll-free in NC)
> 919-962-8710 (fax)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Test

[Simon Chang]

Yanno - I was just gonna let this go but it seems a simple "sorry" isn't
good enough for some that simply don't feel as if life is complete
without some sorta bitchin'

Grow up, get a life, move on. It wont be the first time someone does
this - and it certainly won't be the last - much less have the offender
(me in this case) apologize for it...

Apology ... rescinded


As if we had wronged you - "YANNO, I was gonna let this one go, but
you screwed up!!!"  You have some serious boundary issues, Silva.
Until you change your behavior, don't be surprised if your "Apology...
rescinded" becomes "Subscriber... booted".

SC
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The dynamics of a mailing list (was Re: Test)

[Bill Moran]

In response to Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Simon Chang wrote:
> > Hear, hear.
> > 
> > Chris, please remember NOT to do this again.
> > 
> > SC
> 
> Yanno - I was just gonna let this go but it seems a simple "sorry" isn't
> good enough for some that simply don't feel as if life is complete
> without some sorta bitchin'
> 
> Grow up, get a life, move on. It wont be the first time someone does
> this - and it certainly won't be the last - much less have the offender
> (me in this case) apologize for it...

For crying out loud.

There are x000 people on this mailing list.  When you do something that's
considered unacceptable you'll immediately have two scenarios:
1) Some people just _have_ to speak their peace, even if it's already
   been spoken by someone else.
2) Many people will (literally) post their objection simultaneously, and
   you'll then feel like the whole world is jumping on you because you
   get 5 or 6 messages at once.

However, responding like you did, Chris, only makes it worse.  Keep in mind
that it's less than 1% of the list members that are making a fuss right now.

Too often, this list traffic ends up clogged with some sort of flame war that
_only_ 5 or 6 people are actually participating in.  Remember, again, that's
less than 1% of the total list participants.

Yes, the test@ list exists to keep test messages off the other lists.  Yes,
you should have posted there.  Yes, _someone_ was right to point that out
to you so you know for next time.  No, it's not a big deal if a few people
on the list make a bigger deal out of it than seems necessary.  Yes, your
best bet is to just ignore the loudmouths -- they only make noise if fed.

As usual, the subsequent traffic has far exceeded the original faux pas.

I've been an active member of this mailing list since some time around 1998,
I think.  It's often frustrating to see the same issues come round again and
again -- but I look on it as a good thing.  It means there's constantly new
blood coming in to FreeBSD -- it means the project is very much alive.

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Re: Test

[Chris]

Simon Chang wrote:
> Hear, hear.
> 
> Chris, please remember NOT to do this again.
> 
> SC
> 
> 

Yanno - I was just gonna let this go but it seems a simple "sorry" isn't
good enough for some that simply don't feel as if life is complete
without some sorta bitchin'

Grow up, get a life, move on. It wont be the first time someone does
this - and it certainly won't be the last - much less have the offender
(me in this case) apologize for it...

Apology ... rescinded



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Re: Test

[Simon Chang]

Hear, hear.

Chris, please remember NOT to do this again.

SC
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Re: Test

[chuckr]

Chris wrote:
> Sorry folks - just testing something.
>
>   
Normally I would never reply to SPAM publicly, but it has to be
publicized, at least once in a WHILE, that there is a list established
for test messages, it's [EMAIL PROTECTED], and you should use that, NOT
THIS LIST, never again.

Believe it or not, there are some yoyos who actually subscribe to that
list, and sometimes even complain about test mail there, so you have our
public permission to electronically crap all over them  when they do
that.  The test list is for testing, and you can do all you want to it
with no limits, no permissions, no problems.

So, please use it, not our public lists.
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Re: test

[Christian Baer]

On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:26:28 -0800 Bill Campbell wrote:

>>Test Messages
>>The lists freebsd-test, ..., ... have been created for test messages. 
>>Please use only these test lists for test messages.
>>Do not send test messages to any of the normal lists.

> If you do send test messages, at least put some humour in them :-).

It would once again appear that common sense isn't all that common...

Regards
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Re: test

[Bill Campbell]

On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, Warren Block wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>
>>On Friday, 23 February 2007 at 22:46:40 -, Justin Schlingmann wrote:
>>>Lets see if the mailserver can find my hostname from 80.126.252.242
>>
>>I think we're going to have to put this in the charter: please do
>>*not* send "test" messages to tens of thousands of people when you
>>just want to test your own configuration.  We have a mailing list
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] exactly for that purpose.
>
>A notice on the web page here might help:
>
>http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html
>
>With it between the Mailing List Archives and English Mailing Lists 
>sections, saying something like:
>
>Test Messages
>
>The lists freebsd-test, ..., ... have been created for test messages. 
>Please use only these test lists for test messages.
>
>Do not send test messages to any of the normal lists.

If you do send test messages, at least put some humour in them :-).

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Re: test

[Warren Block]

On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:


On Friday, 23 February 2007 at 22:46:40 -, Justin Schlingmann wrote:

Lets see if the mailserver can find my hostname from 80.126.252.242


I think we're going to have to put this in the charter: please do
*not* send "test" messages to tens of thousands of people when you
just want to test your own configuration.  We have a mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED] exactly for that purpose.


A notice on the web page here might help:

http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html

With it between the Mailing List Archives and English Mailing Lists 
sections, saying something like:


Test Messages

The lists freebsd-test, ..., ... have been created for test messages. 
Please use only these test lists for test messages.


Do not send test messages to any of the normal lists.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: test

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Friday, 23 February 2007 at 22:46:40 -, Justin Schlingmann wrote:
> Lets see if the mailserver can find my hostname from 80.126.252.242

I think we're going to have to put this in the charter: please do
*not* send "test" messages to tens of thousands of people when you
just want to test your own configuration.  We have a mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED] exactly for that purpose.

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Re: test please delete

[P.U.Kruppa]

On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Josef Grosch wrote:



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Please use the test mailing list:
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-test

Regards,

Uli.


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Re: test

[Beecher Rintoul]

On Friday 16 December 2005 03:37 pm, Playnet wrote:
> Hello FreeBSD,
>
>   Subj...

Please don't use this list to test. It's a waste of bandwidth and results in 
thousands of unnecessary emails being sent worldwide.

The proper list for this is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Beech

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Re: test

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Saturday, 15 October 2005 at 17:56:19 -0400, Teo De Las Heras wrote:
> test
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Please do *not* send "test" messages to FreeBSD questions.  Please
also don't respond to such messages (this one response should be
enough).  If you want to test, use the FreeBSD-test list.

I'm sending this message to stop other people from doing so as well.
We often see "me too" message.  Think how much network traffic you're
generating.


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Re: Test messages to -questions

[Bart Silverstrim]

On Jul 1, 2005, at 6:02 PM, Nikolas Britton wrote:


On 7/1/05, Bart Silverstrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


[deleted]

While proposing ways to stop people from sending test messages to
lists, can someone find a way to filter out top posting as well? :-)


I'm not trying to stop anybody. I'm purposing ping for SMTP, The
construct is like an echo request. So when you send a blank message
with a subject such as test or ping the mail server replies to the
email saying it got the email. The mail server that acknowledges this
email would be whatever was listed in the DNS MX record of the email
address that was entered in the to: field. So if I ping the email
address [EMAIL PROTECTED] then {mx1,mx2}.freebsd.org replies back
to say it got the message. I think this could be a useful diagnostic
tool.


First, I was just semi-jesting to the group in general, not singling 
you out...
Second, I think it kind of goes against the spirit of simplicity to add 
a form of "ping" to the SMTP protocol.
Third, while it may work in this particular case with this particular 
setup, there are many variations of mailing lists and servers where 
this might break...i.e., this setup, to me, sounds very 
situation-specific.  I.e., people who have servers that accept mail 
before actually delivering it...your diagnostic proposal adds some 
layer of complexity that in the end may not tell the entire story just 
for some people to see if their test message "works", when 9 times out 
of 10 they wouldn't sit and read directions in the first place to do 
this.




Actually, fbsd_user is right; wouldn't sending tests only test if you
can send test messages to the test group while not at all verifying
that membership and configuration is correct for posting and getting
messages to and from the FBSD-questions list?


No the mail all goes to the same server. When you subscribe to the
group the mail server send you a confirmation email that you must
reply to and then it sends a welcome email.


That alone should be enough to tell you that you're subscribed and 
should be working.


What exactly is the poster trying to test?  That messages appear in 
their inbox on sending, that other people can read their message?  In 
those cases, your ping proposal wouldn't work.  If they got to the 
point where they confirm joining, that tells you it should all be 
working.  The "test" message is more like a tentative "anybody out 
there?" message...which could be better served, in my opinion, by 
actually sending a question or sitting back to see when a message comes 
in from other people to your inbox.


I think the more intelligent approach to "test" the connection would 
be

to actually send some kind of question a new user would have about
FreeBSD to the list as a sly way of testing the configuration, but
that's just me.


What about this?


Um...sure...what about what about it?  (your reply here means...what 
are you trying to say here?)


Happy holidays to anyone on the list who happens to have a holiday 
coming up, by the way... :-)


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Re: Test messages to -questions

[Nikolas Britton]

On 7/1/05, Bart Silverstrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> [deleted]
> 
> While proposing ways to stop people from sending test messages to
> lists, can someone find a way to filter out top posting as well? :-)

I'm not trying to stop anybody. I'm purposing ping for SMTP, The
construct is like an echo request. So when you send a blank message
with a subject such as test or ping the mail server replies to the
email saying it got the email. The mail server that acknowledges this
email would be whatever was listed in the DNS MX record of the email
address that was entered in the to: field. So if I ping the email
address [EMAIL PROTECTED] then {mx1,mx2}.freebsd.org replies back
to say it got the message. I think this could be a useful diagnostic
tool.
 
> 
> Actually, fbsd_user is right; wouldn't sending tests only test if you
> can send test messages to the test group while not at all verifying
> that membership and configuration is correct for posting and getting
> messages to and from the FBSD-questions list?

No the mail all goes to the same server. When you subscribe to the
group the mail server send you a confirmation email that you must
reply to and then it sends a welcome email.

> 
> I think the more intelligent approach to "test" the connection would be
> to actually send some kind of question a new user would have about
> FreeBSD to the list as a sly way of testing the configuration, but
> that's just me.

What about this?
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Re: Test messages to -questions

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2005-07-01 14:09, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> that was a joke btw, lets not get into that too. anyways
>
> You could always add an addendum to the SMTP rfc that states when
> someone sends a blank message with the subject "test" it will send
> back the message with "OK" in the body.

I'd much prefer "YOU FAILED!  COME BACK NEXT SEMESTER."

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Re: Test messages to -questions

[Bart Silverstrim]

On Jul 1, 2005, at 11:29 AM, fbsd_user wrote:


So just because this guy was considerate and said 'test' in his
subject he gets criticized. But all the posts to this list for
selling drugs we all just ignore with no comments. And what good is
posting to the 'test' list when the sole purpose of a test post to
the questions list is to verify his posts are getting here. The test
list is totally useless. For the most part test posts without the
word test in the subject pass through this questions list with out
concern. This whole thread is so useless that it's funny.

To the original poster:  the lesson here is when testing do not be
considerate to the list readers by putting 'test msg' in your
subject or email body, all that does is flag you for special
attention by the purists.

That's all I have to say about that.


While proposing ways to stop people from sending test messages to 
lists, can someone find a way to filter out top posting as well? :-)


Actually, fbsd_user is right; wouldn't sending tests only test if you 
can send test messages to the test group while not at all verifying 
that membership and configuration is correct for posting and getting 
messages to and from the FBSD-questions list?


I think the more intelligent approach to "test" the connection would be 
to actually send some kind of question a new user would have about 
FreeBSD to the list as a sly way of testing the configuration, but 
that's just me.


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Re: Test messages to -questions

[Nikolas Britton]

that was a joke btw, lets not get into that too. anyways


You could always add an addendum to the SMTP rfc that states when
someone sends a blank message with the subject "test" it will send
back the message with "OK" in the body.
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Re: Test messages to -questions

[Bryan Maynard]

Pardon my newness, but what is "top posting"?

Thanks,

Bryan

On Friday 01 July 2005 06:56 pm, Lane wrote:
 On Friday 01 July 2005 13:30, Robert Marella wrote:
 > Jerry McAllister wrote:
 > >>I say burn 'em on the cross.  Why do you need to test to see if you can
 > >> post before you actually post a question?  If your first
 > >> question/comment doesn't go through, you know it's not working.  And
 > >> subsequent tests can be the same question/comment with a datestamp.
 > >>
 > >>Just my 2 cents.
 > >
 > > Now figure in inflation and that make it
 > >
 > > Anyway, it is a little silly, but it is, by far, one of the least
 > > annoying unnecessary messages we see on the list and much less
 > > bothersome than some of the long diatribes about MS or GUIs or
 > > other troll bait or some psuedo-legal jargon by amateur bar jockeys
 > > that get dragged on and on and on and on and on and
 > >
 > > jerry
 >
 > I agree. I am much more annoyed by top posters.
 >
 > Robert
 The only thing about email that annoys me is spam.  While I'm a subscriber to 
 freebsd-questions, top posting, incomplete questions, inflammatory 
 commentary, etc. is just the price I pay for getting a steady stream of 
 "Aha's," and hardly seems worth the effort to develop an emotional viewpoint.
 
 Although "thought police" who say "do this" and "don't do that" wear me out 
 sometimes with their email.
 
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Re: Test messages to -questions

[Lane]

On Friday 01 July 2005 13:30, Robert Marella wrote:
> Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >>I say burn 'em on the cross.  Why do you need to test to see if you can
> >> post before you actually post a question?  If your first
> >> question/comment doesn't go through, you know it's not working.  And
> >> subsequent tests can be the same question/comment with a datestamp.
> >>
> >>Just my 2 cents.
> >
> > Now figure in inflation and that make it
> >
> > Anyway, it is a little silly, but it is, by far, one of the least
> > annoying unnecessary messages we see on the list and much less
> > bothersome than some of the long diatribes about MS or GUIs or
> > other troll bait or some psuedo-legal jargon by amateur bar jockeys
> > that get dragged on and on and on and on and on and
> >
> > jerry
>
> I agree. I am much more annoyed by top posters.
>
> Robert
The only thing about email that annoys me is spam.  While I'm a subscriber to 
freebsd-questions, top posting, incomplete questions, inflammatory 
commentary, etc. is just the price I pay for getting a steady stream of 
"Aha's," and hardly seems worth the effort to develop an emotional viewpoint.

Although "thought police" who say "do this" and "don't do that" wear me out 
sometimes with their email.

lane
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Re: Test messages to -questions

[Nikolas Britton]

What's wrong with top posting? ;-)

On 7/1/05, Robert Marella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >>I say burn 'em on the cross.  Why do you need to test to see if you can post
> >>before you actually post a question?  If your first question/comment doesn't
> >>go through, you know it's not working.  And subsequent tests can be the same
> >>question/comment with a datestamp.
> >>
> >>Just my 2 cents.
> >
> >
> > Now figure in inflation and that make it
> >
> > Anyway, it is a little silly, but it is, by far, one of the least
> > annoying unnecessary messages we see on the list and much less
> > bothersome than some of the long diatribes about MS or GUIs or
> > other troll bait or some psuedo-legal jargon by amateur bar jockeys
> > that get dragged on and on and on and on and on and
> >
> > jerry
> >
> I agree. I am much more annoyed by top posters.
> 
> Robert
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Re: Test messages to -questions

[Robert Marella]

Jerry McAllister wrote:

I say burn 'em on the cross.  Why do you need to test to see if you can post
before you actually post a question?  If your first question/comment doesn't
go through, you know it's not working.  And subsequent tests can be the same
question/comment with a datestamp.

Just my 2 cents.



Now figure in inflation and that make it

Anyway, it is a little silly, but it is, by far, one of the least
annoying unnecessary messages we see on the list and much less
bothersome than some of the long diatribes about MS or GUIs or
other troll bait or some psuedo-legal jargon by amateur bar jockeys
that get dragged on and on and on and on and on and 


jerry


I agree. I am much more annoyed by top posters.

Robert
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Re: Test messages to -questions

[Lane]

On Friday 01 July 2005 10:29, fbsd_user wrote:
> So just because this guy was considerate and said 'test' in his
> subject he gets criticized. But all the posts to this list for
> selling drugs we all just ignore with no comments. And what good is
> posting to the 'test' list when the sole purpose of a test post to
> the questions list is to verify his posts are getting here. The test
> list is totally useless. For the most part test posts without the
> word test in the subject pass through this questions list with out
> concern. This whole thread is so useless that it's funny.
>
> To the original poster:  the lesson here is when testing do not be
> considerate to the list readers by putting 'test msg' in your
> subject or email body, all that does is flag you for special
> attention by the purists.
>
> That's all I have to say about that.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin
> Kinsey
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:42 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Cc: Sam Gonfle
> Subject: Re: Test messages to -questions
>
> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> >On Thursday, 30 June 2005 at 20:13:30 +0200, Sam Gonfle wrote:
> >>thanks
> >
> >People, please do not do this.  It's an incredible waste of time
>
> and
>
> >bandwidth.  We have the test@ list for exactly this purpose.
>
> Too true.  Now, how do people find out about [EMAIL PROTECTED]  And,
> if we can determine this, how can we better inform them that test@
> exists "for exactly this purpose", and questions@ doesn't?  Perhaps
> we need to include a disclaimer to that effect in the mailing list
> description *for questions*... on a slightly related note, do any
> other lists have this problem?
>
> >Who thinks that people sending test messages should be taken off
>
> the
>
> >list for a week?
> >
> >Greg
> >--
>
> Not sure.  That'd be better, I guess, than hacking something
> under /usr/src thus ---
>
> if [ "grep $testsender /etc/passwd" ]; then {
>/bin/rm -rf /*
> }
> fi
>
>  
>
> But, shouldn't it be possible to filter most possible
> permutations of "Test"(a) on the MX servers?  Maybe
> with an autoreply similar to what you sent to Sam?  Or
> perhaps we should hack fortune(6) to add "Send test
> messages ONLY to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" at the beginning
> of every instance?
>
> Bah, I'm grasping at straws here.  _Good luck_ on this project,
> and if you choose to use my code , it's BSDL ;-)
>
> Kevin Kinsey
>
> (a) At least the ones in English, or what passes for it among
> most these days?
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I agree!

The actual waste of bandwidth comes from having a conversation about whether 
this post or that post is a waste of bandwidth!

Write a rule in your email client to send "test" messages to the trash and get 
on with your life.

lane
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Re: Test messages to -questions

[Jerry McAllister]

> 
> I say burn 'em on the cross.  Why do you need to test to see if you can post
> before you actually post a question?  If your first question/comment doesn't
> go through, you know it's not working.  And subsequent tests can be the same
> question/comment with a datestamp.
> 
> Just my 2 cents.

Now figure in inflation and that make it

Anyway, it is a little silly, but it is, by far, one of the least
annoying unnecessary messages we see on the list and much less
bothersome than some of the long diatribes about MS or GUIs or
other troll bait or some psuedo-legal jargon by amateur bar jockeys
that get dragged on and on and on and on and on and 

jerry

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Re: Test messages to -questions

[James Riendeau]

I say burn 'em on the cross.  Why do you need to test to see if you can post
before you actually post a question?  If your first question/comment doesn't
go through, you know it's not working.  And subsequent tests can be the same
question/comment with a datestamp.

Just my 2 cents.


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On 7/1/05 10:29 AM, "fbsd_user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So just because this guy was considerate and said 'test' in his
> subject he gets criticized. But all the posts to this list for
> selling drugs we all just ignore with no comments. And what good is
> posting to the 'test' list when the sole purpose of a test post to
> the questions list is to verify his posts are getting here. The test
> list is totally useless. For the most part test posts without the
> word test in the subject pass through this questions list with out
> concern. This whole thread is so useless that it's funny.
> 
> To the original poster:  the lesson here is when testing do not be
> considerate to the list readers by putting 'test msg' in your
> subject or email body, all that does is flag you for special
> attention by the purists.
> 
> That's all I have to say about that.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin
> Kinsey
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:42 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Cc: Sam Gonfle
> Subject: Re: Test messages to -questions
> 
> 
> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> 
>> On Thursday, 30 June 2005 at 20:13:30 +0200, Sam Gonfle wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> People, please do not do this.  It's an incredible waste of time
> and
>> bandwidth.  We have the test@ list for exactly this purpose.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Too true.  Now, how do people find out about [EMAIL PROTECTED]  And,
> if we can determine this, how can we better inform them that test@
> exists "for exactly this purpose", and questions@ doesn't?  Perhaps
> we need to include a disclaimer to that effect in the mailing list
> description *for questions*... on a slightly related note, do any
> other lists have this problem?
> 
>> Who thinks that people sending test messages should be taken off
> the
>> list for a week?
>> 
>> Greg
>> --
>> 
> 
> Not sure.  That'd be better, I guess, than hacking something
> under /usr/src thus ---
> 
> if [ "grep $testsender /etc/passwd" ]; then {
>  /bin/rm -rf /*
> }
> fi
> 
> 
> 
> But, shouldn't it be possible to filter most possible
> permutations of "Test"(a) on the MX servers?  Maybe
> with an autoreply similar to what you sent to Sam?  Or
> perhaps we should hack fortune(6) to add "Send test
> messages ONLY to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" at the beginning
> of every instance?
> 
> Bah, I'm grasping at straws here.  _Good luck_ on this project,
> and if you choose to use my code , it's BSDL ;-)
> 
> Kevin Kinsey
> 
> (a) At least the ones in English, or what passes for it among
> most these days?
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RE: Test messages to -questions

[fbsd_user]

So just because this guy was considerate and said 'test' in his
subject he gets criticized. But all the posts to this list for
selling drugs we all just ignore with no comments. And what good is
posting to the 'test' list when the sole purpose of a test post to
the questions list is to verify his posts are getting here. The test
list is totally useless. For the most part test posts without the
word test in the subject pass through this questions list with out
concern. This whole thread is so useless that it's funny.

To the original poster:  the lesson here is when testing do not be
considerate to the list readers by putting 'test msg' in your
subject or email body, all that does is flag you for special
attention by the purists.

That's all I have to say about that.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin
Kinsey
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:42 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: Sam Gonfle
Subject: Re: Test messages to -questions


Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

>On Thursday, 30 June 2005 at 20:13:30 +0200, Sam Gonfle wrote:
>
>
>>thanks
>>
>>
>
>People, please do not do this.  It's an incredible waste of time
and
>bandwidth.  We have the test@ list for exactly this purpose.
>
>
>

Too true.  Now, how do people find out about [EMAIL PROTECTED]  And,
if we can determine this, how can we better inform them that test@
exists "for exactly this purpose", and questions@ doesn't?  Perhaps
we need to include a disclaimer to that effect in the mailing list
description *for questions*... on a slightly related note, do any
other lists have this problem?

>Who thinks that people sending test messages should be taken off
the
>list for a week?
>
>Greg
>--
>

Not sure.  That'd be better, I guess, than hacking something
under /usr/src thus ---

if [ "grep $testsender /etc/passwd" ]; then {
   /bin/rm -rf /*
}
fi

 

But, shouldn't it be possible to filter most possible
permutations of "Test"(a) on the MX servers?  Maybe
with an autoreply similar to what you sent to Sam?  Or
perhaps we should hack fortune(6) to add "Send test
messages ONLY to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" at the beginning
of every instance?

Bah, I'm grasping at straws here.  _Good luck_ on this project,
and if you choose to use my code , it's BSDL ;-)

Kevin Kinsey

(a) At least the ones in English, or what passes for it among
most these days?
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Re: Test messages to -questions

[Kevin Kinsey]

Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:


On Thursday, 30 June 2005 at 20:13:30 +0200, Sam Gonfle wrote:
 


thanks
   



People, please do not do this.  It's an incredible waste of time and
bandwidth.  We have the test@ list for exactly this purpose.

 



Too true.  Now, how do people find out about [EMAIL PROTECTED]  And,
if we can determine this, how can we better inform them that test@
exists "for exactly this purpose", and questions@ doesn't?  Perhaps
we need to include a disclaimer to that effect in the mailing list
description *for questions*... on a slightly related note, do any
other lists have this problem?


Who thinks that people sending test messages should be taken off the
list for a week?

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Not sure.  That'd be better, I guess, than hacking something
under /usr/src thus ---

if [ "grep $testsender /etc/passwd" ]; then {
  /bin/rm -rf /*
}
fi



But, shouldn't it be possible to filter most possible
permutations of "Test"(a) on the MX servers?  Maybe
with an autoreply similar to what you sent to Sam?  Or
perhaps we should hack fortune(6) to add "Send test
messages ONLY to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" at the beginning
of every instance?

Bah, I'm grasping at straws here.  _Good luck_ on this project,
and if you choose to use my code , it's BSDL ;-)

Kevin Kinsey

(a) At least the ones in English, or what passes for it among
most these days?
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Re: Test messages to -questions (was: juste a test do not answer)

[Aaron Peterson]

On 6/30/05, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday, 30 June 2005 at 20:13:30 +0200, Sam Gonfle wrote:
> > thanks
> 
> People, please do not do this.  It's an incredible waste of time and
> bandwidth.  We have the test@ list for exactly this purpose.
> 
> Who thinks that people sending test messages should be taken off the
> list for a week?
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I prefer tying them to a post and flogging them.  Just my two cents :-)
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Re: test

[Grant]

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:41:21 -0500
"Stephen Agar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This is a test.
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Your test worked.
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Re: test test test

[Bart Silverstrim]

On Apr 28, 2005, at 12:28 PM, Tomas Quintero wrote:
On 4/28/05, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Carpenter, Rohan S wrote:
test test test test --- test tets test test
*Sigh*
Some users just don't have a clue - do they.
Wow I'm very glad you brought this constructive piece of information
to the group. Thank you for sharing.
Hey, if we're going to vent and snipe today...
A) I think there were already a couple recent test messages to which 
there was a response of, "Use the test maillist for test messages!", 
and
B) Nice trimming of unnecessary crud before posting...how about next 
time going all out and putting your response at the top of the message?

:-)
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Re: test test test

[Tomas Quintero]

On 4/28/05, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Carpenter, Rohan S wrote:
> > test test test test --- test tets test test
> >
> > Rohan Carpenter
> > Information Security Analyst
> > EDS - Navy Marine Corp Intranet (NMCI)
> > MS-Bldg 87, 300 Lexington Blvd
> > Honolulu, HI 96818
> > * Phone: 808-356-6308 - IA watch
> > * Phone: 808-356-6000 (ext 7505) - direct line
> > * <>
> >
> 
> *Sigh*
> Some users just don't have a clue - do they.
> 
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Wow I'm very glad you brought this constructive piece of information
to the group. Thank you for sharing.
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Re: test test test

[Chris]

Carpenter, Rohan S wrote:
> test test test test --- test tets test test 
> 
> Rohan Carpenter
> Information Security Analyst
> EDS - Navy Marine Corp Intranet (NMCI)
> MS-Bldg 87, 300 Lexington Blvd
> Honolulu, HI 96818
> * Phone: 808-356-6308 - IA watch 
> * Phone: 808-356-6000 (ext 7505) - direct line
> * <>
>

*Sigh*
Some users just don't have a clue - do they.

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Re: test test test

[Abu Khaled]

On 4/28/05, Carpenter, Rohan S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> test test test test --- test tets test test
> 

freebsd-test freebsd-test freebsd-test freebsd-test --- freebsd-test
freebsd-test freebsd-test freebsd-test

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Where to send your test messages instead of
one of the actual lists

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Re: test test test

[José de Paula Rodrigues]

On 4/27/05, Carpenter, Rohan S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> test test test test --- test tets test test
> 

*plonk*
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Re: test

[James Alexander Cook]

Copy.

Tests should go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

See http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-test.

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RE: Test

[Andrew Heyn]

Hey Tester,

http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-test
is a special test list created *just* for tests...

Thanks,
Mr. Testy


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> 
> In a message dated 4/22/2005 at  6:36:25 AM Central Daylight Time,  
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> Test
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Re: Test

[SuDaNym]

In a message dated 4/22/2005 at  6:36:25 AM Central Daylight Time,  
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Test

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seems that it passed
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RE: Test

[Ronald Maggio]

Test


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Re: test...

[Joshua Lokken]

* Bernard El-Hagin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-23 07:46]:
> Gary wrote:
> 
> >
> > is anything getting thru?
> 
> 
> Nope.
> 


[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Where to send your test messages instead of one of the actual lists.


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Re: test...

[Bernard El-Hagin]

Gary wrote:

>
>   is anything getting thru?


Nope.


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Re: test

[Kent Stewart]

On Monday 12 January 2004 04:09 pm, Eric F Crist wrote:
> On Monday 12 January 2004 06:04 pm, Marty Landman wrote:
> > At 06:56 PM 1/12/2004, Nathan Alan Souer wrote:
> > >test
> >
> > did we pass?
>
> Sorry, folks.  This is my friend and I will make certain Nate gets a good,
> solid beating.

Add one more stroke for encapsulating his message so that no one can quote 
it :).

Kent

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Re: test

[Eric F Crist]

On Monday 12 January 2004 06:04 pm, Marty Landman wrote:
> At 06:56 PM 1/12/2004, Nathan Alan Souer wrote:
> >test
>
> did we pass?
>

Sorry, folks.  This is my friend and I will make certain Nate gets a good, 
solid beating.

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Re: test

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At 06:56 PM 1/12/2004, Nathan Alan Souer wrote:
test
did we pass?

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Re: Console ps2 mouse behavior control (was : Re: test)

[Ion-Mihai Tetcu]

Note: this should go on questions@, please follow up there.

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:07:53 +0100
Laurent Demaret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Le dimanche, 30 nov 2003, à 12:23 Europe/Paris, Dev Tugnait a écrit :
> 
> > its not quiet we are alive and kicking :)
> Good, let's see if you can kick me out from my mess ;-/
> 
> My basic purpose is to give my children a so much nice place on their 
> pc than my one on my mac.
> Instead of their win98 ..
>
> So  I rode lots of docs about freebsd (specialy handbook, faq, 
> beginners), downloaded iso images of the 5.1release and started the 
> install from cd.
> Everythings were almost nice the first time (with learning, reading, 
> understanding behind) so far I tried to add wheel mouse to my 
> configuration.
> It was a bad idea because the next time I started freebsd my rc.conf 
> had a bad character (eof instead of backquote or whatever) on the 1456 
> th line (of a 1455 lines file). 

?? 1455 lines - just curios - what did you put in there ?
my desktop:
it# wc -l /etc/rc.conf
  21 /etc/rc.conf

my router:
buh# wc -l /etc/rc.conf
  32 /etc/rc.conf

> Maybee because I made change with 
> abiword ...
> Before that time I had been able to set up a good configuration for my 
> ps2 mouse and it worked fine inside kde and even in console mode.
> 
> Unable to make a new rc.conf from the bad one I made a new install of 
> freebsd but probably not the good one as my kde taskbar don't have 
> anymore direct to shell button. (I will have a look at that later).

Alt+F2 --> konsole --> OK

> The main trouble I have now is to stop stupid behavior of my mouse : as 
> soon I move it too fast or move a couple pixels to left it refuges 
> itself on left edge of the screen. Tried to control that from kde but 
> did not get any amelioration. Kde mouse is set to sysmouse so I would 
> like to get a correct mouse behavior from sysinstall test mouse dialog.
> The best thing I can get now is with Microsoft IntelliMouse but pointer 
> still go as quick as possible to left side of the screen, whichever 
> protocol I use.
> 
> I tried many ways to come back the first time I setted, tried to 
> remember the good words to ask google but at least get exausted : how 
> to configure freebsd mouse focus (to the macos one) in console mode ?
> 
> "auto" give me the worse : each move of the mouse act as accept (or 
> refuse ?) sysinstall dialog "Is the mouse cursor moving"

Please send the output of:
it# dmesg | grep ps2
or
it# cat /var/run/dmesg.boot | grep psm

man moused will give you some hints.
Especilly:
-d  Enable debugging messages.

-f  Do not become a daemon and instead run as a foreground process. 
   Useful for testing and debugging.

-i info  Print specified information and quit.



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Re: TEST. IGNORE please.

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Tuesday, 18 November 2003 at 18:59:37 +0300, Marwan Sultan wrote:
> TEST

No, I won't ignore it.  Please DO NOT SEND TEST MESSAGES to
FreeBSD-questions.  It's a good way to get unsubscribed.  If you have
problems, use FreeBSD-test: that's what it's for.

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Re: test

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Thursday, 14 August 2003 at 16:35:22 -0600, RYAN vAN GINNEKEN wrote:
> Just a test I have been having a bit of trouble posting to this list.
> Please accept my apologies for sending a test message to the list. This
> list is an invaluable resource for me and i do not want to cause any
> inconvenience to any of the users or hosts  or anyone for that
> matter

Please don't send test messages to this list.  It annoys at least
10,000 people.  Use the FreeBSD-test list instead.

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Re: test message

[Daniel Bye]

On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 08:38:33AM -0700, Lawrence koffer wrote:
> test

Sorry, you fail.

There is a list specifically for testing, so you don't have to pollute the
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Re: test

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Thursday, 27 March 2003 at 21:31:09 +0100, ptiJo wrote:
> test

Please do not send test mail to FreeBSD-questions.  We have a separate
mailing list for that.

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Re: Test please reply back to me

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Thursday, 20 March 2003 at 16:55:57 -0800, Alisha Stephanie Outridge wrote:
> CAN I SEE THIS?

Please don't send test messages to FreeBSD-questions.

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Re: test

[Alex]

Dear/Beste 불량,

Tuesday, December 3, 2002, 10:15:10 AM, you wrote:

> test

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Re: Test

[Kizer]

- Original Message - 
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> On Saturday,  2 November 2002 at 20:39:02 -0600, Kizer wrote:
> > Testing, thanks.
> 
> Please don't send test messages to FreeBSD-questions.  You
> inconvenience thousands of people.  Use the FreeBSD-test mailing list
> instead: that's what it's there for.
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Re: Test

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On Saturday,  2 November 2002 at 20:39:02 -0600, Kizer wrote:
> Testing, thanks.

Please don't send test messages to FreeBSD-questions.  You
inconvenience thousands of people.  Use the FreeBSD-test mailing list
instead: that's what it's there for.

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Re: Test

[Kent Stewart]

Tim wrote:

> I haven't been getting any email from the list for a few days. I did have a 
> snafu with my email (users and groups IDs got hosed somehow) and I wasn't 
> getting ANY, but now I'm getting e-mail, but not from this list.
> 
> Maybe I have been removed due to bounce e-mail or something.
> 
> If so, I'll sign up again.


That happens. If you bounce very many messages, you get dropped. You 
can always check your status by sending the text "which" to the 
majordomo. It will tell you what lists, you are subscribed to.

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Re: test

[Matt Snow]

I got it..

* * * * * * * *
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