Re: what's happening with xorg?

2007-10-17 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 04:22:58AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 03:47:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  I'm in the middle of a portupgrade -aP, and saw that the newest
  mga driver is installed.
  So I did another X -configure, moved the file to
  /etc/X11/xorg.conf and carefully tried out the new
  xf86-video-mga-1.9.100..  The screen is much brighter at the
  resolution is good, but the brightness is still very dingy
  compared to the vesa driver.  There is nothing wrong with my
  CRT; on the other KVM connections (and/or) with the vesa driver 
  at 800x600, the screen is completely bright.  Is there some other
  ati driver yet to finish?  
 
 The ati driver is for ATI chips like the Radeon.
 
 You could try playing with the gamma value of the monitor. When X is
 running you can use xgamma to adjust the gamma setting. You can also set
 this with the Gamma entry in the Monitor section of xorg.conf.


Or should I ask somebbody to put back in the Radeon  card?  (i
think that was the card i thought was going bad... ) Otherwise,
I'll try the Gamma  entry in my Monitor section with my G450.
What value should I use?  Or if it is boolen, do I try settting
it to on??

thanks lots,

gary

PS: to you, or to any other driver wizards::: is this mga driver
still being hacked-on?  The screen is only dingy grey not
black.  (*mumble*)


 
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Re: what's happening with xorg?

2007-10-17 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 11:46:27PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  You could try playing with the gamma value of the monitor. When X is
  running you can use xgamma to adjust the gamma setting. You can also set
  this with the Gamma entry in the Monitor section of xorg.conf.
 
 
   Or should I ask somebbody to put back in the Radeon  card?  (i
   think that was the card i thought was going bad... ) Otherwise,
   I'll try the Gamma  entry in my Monitor section with my G450.
   What value should I use?  Or if it is boolen, do I try settting
   it to on??

The default setting for gamma is 1. Try e.g. 2. See also xorg.conf(5).

Alternatively you can try to change it while X is running by typing
'xgamma -gamma 2' in a terminal. This does require that the
VidModeExtension is active, i.e. the ServerFlags option
DisableVidModeExtension should _not_ be set.

   PS: to you, or to any other driver wizards::: is this mga driver
   still being hacked-on?  The screen is only dingy grey not
   black.  (*mumble*)

It looks like it is still in development; 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-mga/

BTW, I was assuming you have tried adjusting the brightness and contrast
settings of the monitor?

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Re: what's happening with xorg?

2007-10-17 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 08:18:53PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 11:46:27PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
   You could try playing with the gamma value of the monitor. When X is
   running you can use xgamma to adjust the gamma setting. You can also set
   this with the Gamma entry in the Monitor section of xorg.conf.
  
  
  Or should I ask somebbody to put back in the Radeon  card?  (i
  think that was the card i thought was going bad... ) Otherwise,
  I'll try the Gamma  entry in my Monitor section with my G450.
  What value should I use?  Or if it is boolen, do I try settting
  it to on??
 
 The default setting for gamma is 1. Try e.g. 2. See also xorg.conf(5).

I'll try your xgamma -gamma 2 suggestion, below.  Thanks for the
data-point.  I read [[ skimmed-thru ]] xorg.conf.  This is another
man page that you've got to prrint out, go into a corner, and read
... very slowly  :-|

 
 Alternatively you can try to change it while X is running by typing
 'xgamma -gamma 2' in a terminal. This does require that the
 VidModeExtension is active, i.e. the ServerFlags option
 DisableVidModeExtension should _not_ be set.


Good to know. So far, none of the flags are set.

 
  PS: to you, or to any other driver wizards::: is this mga driver
  still being hacked-on?  The screen is only dingy grey not
  black.  (*mumble*)
 
 It looks like it is still in development; 
 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-mga/
 
 BTW, I was assuming you have tried adjusting the brightness and contrast
 settings of the monitor?


Ja.  In fact, only when everything is maxed out (brightness 
contrast) does the screen approach dingy grey. Otherwise, it's
something like light mud ... and I'm not trying to be funny.
At least the hackers are still developing this driver.  I booted 
my DOS partition and it recognized problems  and finally
displayed a 1024x768 display.  

have a good one,

gary


 
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Re: what's happening with xorg?

2007-10-17 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 11:36:09AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  The default setting for gamma is 1. Try e.g. 2. See also xorg.conf(5).
 
   I'll try your xgamma -gamma 2 suggestion, below.  Thanks for the
   data-point.  I read [[ skimmed-thru ]] xorg.conf.  This is another
   man page that you've got to prrint out, go into a corner, and read
   ... very slowly  :-|

The good news is that the autodetection of Xorg has improved a lot. In a
lot of cases you can run 7.3 without xorg.conf.

   Ja.  In fact, only when everything is maxed out (brightness 
   contrast) does the screen approach dingy grey. Otherwise, it's
   something like light mud ... and I'm not trying to be funny.

You should make sure that this is not a hardware problem. Try using
another monitor or another VGA cable. If you can get your hands on
another graphics card (maybe built-in graphics on the mobo?) try that as
well.


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Re: what's happening with xorg?

2007-10-16 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 03:47:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
   I'm in the middle of a portupgrade -aP, and saw that the newest
   mga driver is installed.
   So I did another X -configure, moved the file to
   /etc/X11/xorg.conf and carefully tried out the new
   xf86-video-mga-1.9.100..  The screen is much brighter at the
   resolution is good, but the brightness is still very dingy
   compared to the vesa driver.  There is nothing wrong with my
   CRT; on the other KVM connections (and/or) with the vesa driver 
   at 800x600, the screen is completely bright.  Is there some other
   ati driver yet to finish?  

The ati driver is for ATI chips like the Radeon.

You could try playing with the gamma value of the monitor. When X is
running you can use xgamma to adjust the gamma setting. You can also set
this with the Gamma entry in the Monitor section of xorg.conf.

Roland
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