Re: Via C7 Processor (CPU) - cpufreq and make.conf support
On Oct 24, 2007, at 2:20 AM, Erik Cederstrand wrote: I know this is not an answer, but why not just upgrade to 7.0 if you need the C7 support? I'm on 7B3, but when I look at /usr/src/share/examples/etc/make.conf, I just see this # Currently the following CPU types are recognized: # Intel x86 architecture: # (AMD CPUs) opteron athlon64 athlon-mp athlon-xp athlon-4 # athlon-tbird athlon k8 k6-3 k6-2 k6 k5 # (Intel CPUs)core2 core nocona pentium4m pentium4 prescott # pentium3m pentium3 pentium-m pentium2 # pentiumpro pentium-mmx pentium i486 i386 # (Via CPUs) c3 c3-2 # Alpha/AXP architecture: ev67 ev6 pca56 ev56 ev5 ev45 ev4 # AMD64 architecture: opteron, athlon64, nocona, prescott, core2 # Intel ia64 architecture: itanium2, itanium I should note that it appears that the example make.conf is # $FreeBSD: src/share/examples/etc/make.conf,v 1.279 2007/01/17 12:43:06 des Exp $ But I'm using csup tracking *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7 So can someone point me to where I should look for current (well, 7) information on configuring for Via CPUs? -j ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Via C7 Processor (CPU) - cpufreq and make.conf support
On 10/24/07, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 03:02:21PM -0600, Ross Penner wrote: On 10/24/07, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 02:25:11PM -0600, Ross Penner wrote: What does 'sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq_levels' report? It should list the available CPU frequencies. I get: dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 397/-1 198/-1 Is this something I should be reporting to stable? It's not explicitly mentioned in the hardware notes so I'm not sure if my processor is actually supported in 6.2. Is it possible that I've been shipped the wrong processor? If so, how would I be able to tell short of ripping off the giant heatsink and looking? Have a look at the dmesg output with 'dmesg |head -n 24'. There should be some info about the CPU in there. Post those lines here. Lines from dmesg: Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: VIA C7 Esther+RNG+AES+AES-CTR+SHA1+SHA256+RSA (399.40-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = CentaurHauls Id = 0x6a9 Stepping = 9 Features=0xa7c9bbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,CMOV,PAT,CLFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,PBE Features2=0x181SSE3,EST,TM2 It clearly indicates that it's a 400MHz processor, but the timecounter makes me think it' the 1.2 GHz it's supposed to be. The 'i8254' timecounter is completely independent of the CPU, and the 'Hz' value associated with it has nothing to do with the clock frequency of the CPU. And have a look at the bios. It could have some settings to regulate the CPU speed. The BIOS didn't seem to have anything to adjust the CPU speed, but while booting I did notice that it declared itself as a via C7 400MHz processor. It sounds like the CPU actually is running at 400MHz then. Either that or both the BIOS and FreeBSD misidentifes the CPU speed. It could be that the BIOS do not set up the processor correctly. Are you sure there are no BIOS settings related to the CPU speed? Have you tried updating the BIOS? I'm not sure that there are no settings, but I'm pretty confident. The system is an VIA Epia EN12000E Mini-ITX so I'd be quite surprised if the BIOS didn't set up the processor correctly. regardless, I upgraded the bios to no avail. I'm going to the via support boards to see if somebody there can help. thank you everybody for your help and I'll post any results. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Via C7 Processor (CPU) - cpufreq and make.conf support
Hi all, I have a few questions about my Via C7 processor. In examples/make.conf there is an option for the CPUTYPE. It indicates that only the C3 and the C3-2 chips are supported. Does the C7 chip have support that I don't know of? If not, will it? Otherwise, will specifying the chipset as C3 help or hinder my environment? My second question is in regards to the CPU frequency control. I've seen that the C7 gets support for cpufreq in 7 current, but I'm running 6. Without support in cpufreq, what speed would my processor be running at? I've always thought my performance has been lackluster so I suspect it's running at the lower clock speed. Thanks for any help any of you can give me, Ross -- sig ho! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Via C7 Processor (CPU) - cpufreq and make.conf support
Ross Penner wrote: Hi all, I have a few questions about my Via C7 processor. In examples/make.conf there is an option for the CPUTYPE. It indicates that only the C3 and the C3-2 chips are supported. Does the C7 chip have support that I don't know of? If not, will it? Otherwise, will specifying the chipset as C3 help or hinder my environment? I know this is not an answer, but why not just upgrade to 7.0 if you need the C7 support? My second question is in regards to the CPU frequency control. I've seen that the C7 gets support for cpufreq in 7 current, but I'm running 6. Without support in cpufreq, what speed would my processor be running at? I've always thought my performance has been lackluster so I suspect it's running at the lower clock speed. If cpufreq/powerd is not active, your processor is running full-speed. You can check this with sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq if it's available on your system. Erik ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Via C7 Processor (CPU) - cpufreq and make.conf support
On 10/24/07, Erik Cederstrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ross Penner wrote: Hi all, I have a few questions about my Via C7 processor. In examples/make.conf there is an option for the CPUTYPE. It indicates that only the C3 and the C3-2 chips are supported. Does the C7 chip have support that I don't know of? If not, will it? Otherwise, will specifying the chipset as C3 help or hinder my environment? I know this is not an answer, but why not just upgrade to 7.0 if you need the C7 support? I probably will. I just thought I'd try and see if I could stay on stable first. My second question is in regards to the CPU frequency control. I've seen that the C7 gets support for cpufreq in 7 current, but I'm running 6. Without support in cpufreq, what speed would my processor be running at? I've always thought my performance has been lackluster so I suspect it's running at the lower clock speed. If cpufreq/powerd is not active, your processor is running full-speed. You can check this with sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq if it's available on your system. sounds reasonable. unfortunetly, 'sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq' doesn't seem to work on my system. heh, it'd probably work if I upgrade to 7.0 Erik ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Via C7 Processor (CPU) - cpufreq and make.conf support
Ross Penner wrote: On 10/24/07, Erik Cederstrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ross Penner wrote: Hi all, I have a few questions about my Via C7 processor. In examples/make.conf there is an option for the CPUTYPE. It indicates that only the C3 and the C3-2 chips are supported. Does the C7 chip have support that I don't know of? If not, will it? Otherwise, will specifying the chipset as C3 help or hinder my environment? I know this is not an answer, but why not just upgrade to 7.0 if you need the C7 support? I probably will. I just thought I'd try and see if I could stay on stable first. AFAIK 7.0 will be stable while 6.3 will be legacy. Cheers, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Via C7 Processor (CPU) - cpufreq and make.conf support
On 10/24/07, Ross Penner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/24/07, Erik Cederstrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ross Penner wrote: Hi all, I have a few questions about my Via C7 processor. In examples/make.conf there is an option for the CPUTYPE. It indicates that only the C3 and the C3-2 chips are supported. Does the C7 chip have support that I don't know of? If not, will it? Otherwise, will specifying the chipset as C3 help or hinder my environment? I know this is not an answer, but why not just upgrade to 7.0 if you need the C7 support? I probably will. I just thought I'd try and see if I could stay on stable first. My second question is in regards to the CPU frequency control. I've seen that the C7 gets support for cpufreq in 7 current, but I'm running 6. Without support in cpufreq, what speed would my processor be running at? I've always thought my performance has been lackluster so I suspect it's running at the lower clock speed. If cpufreq/powerd is not active, your processor is running full-speed. You can check this with sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq if it's available on your system. sounds reasonable. unfortunetly, 'sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq' doesn't seem to work on my system. heh, it'd probably work if I upgrade to 7.0 Apparently I'm an idiot. the sysctl command does work. when the system is mostly idle, It outputs '198' and when I put a high cpu load on it, it outputs '397'. I'm not exactly sure what this means as I'm hoping it doesn't refer to the MHz. It's a 1.2GHz processor. Can somebody help me interpret this result? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Via C7 Processor (CPU) - cpufreq and make.conf support
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 01:25:51PM -0600, Ross Penner wrote: sounds reasonable. unfortunetly, 'sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq' doesn't seem to work on my system. heh, it'd probably work if I upgrade to 7.0 Apparently I'm an idiot. the sysctl command does work. when the system is mostly idle, It outputs '198' and when I put a high cpu load on it, it outputs '397'. I'm not exactly sure what this means as I'm hoping it doesn't refer to the MHz. I'm afraid it does; $ sysctl -d dev.cpu.0.freq dev.cpu.0.freq: Current CPU frequency When I see a CPU speed of 1 GHz in conky, I get: $ sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq dev.cpu.0.freq: 1000 (on my athlon64) What does 'sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq_levels' report? It should list the available CPU frequencies. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpKR4KFp3cyJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Via C7 Processor (CPU) - cpufreq and make.conf support
On 10/24/07, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 01:25:51PM -0600, Ross Penner wrote: sounds reasonable. unfortunetly, 'sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq' doesn't seem to work on my system. heh, it'd probably work if I upgrade to 7.0 Apparently I'm an idiot. the sysctl command does work. when the system is mostly idle, It outputs '198' and when I put a high cpu load on it, it outputs '397'. I'm not exactly sure what this means as I'm hoping it doesn't refer to the MHz. I'm afraid it does; $ sysctl -d dev.cpu.0.freq dev.cpu.0.freq: Current CPU frequency When I see a CPU speed of 1 GHz in conky, I get: $ sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq dev.cpu.0.freq: 1000 (on my athlon64) What does 'sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq_levels' report? It should list the available CPU frequencies. I get: dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 397/-1 198/-1 Is this something I should be reporting to stable? It's not explicitly mentioned in the hardware notes so I'm not sure if my processor is actually supported in 6.2. Is it possible that I've been shipped the wrong processor? If so, how would I be able to tell short of ripping off the giant heatsink and looking? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Via C7 Processor (CPU) - cpufreq and make.conf support
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 02:25:11PM -0600, Ross Penner wrote: What does 'sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq_levels' report? It should list the available CPU frequencies. I get: dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 397/-1 198/-1 Is this something I should be reporting to stable? It's not explicitly mentioned in the hardware notes so I'm not sure if my processor is actually supported in 6.2. Is it possible that I've been shipped the wrong processor? If so, how would I be able to tell short of ripping off the giant heatsink and looking? Have a look at the dmesg output with 'dmesg |head -n 24'. There should be some info about the CPU in there. Post those lines here. And have a look at the bios. It could have some settings to regulate the CPU speed. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpPdjsPyuFMi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Via C7 Processor (CPU) - cpufreq and make.conf support
On 10/24/07, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 02:25:11PM -0600, Ross Penner wrote: What does 'sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq_levels' report? It should list the available CPU frequencies. I get: dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 397/-1 198/-1 Is this something I should be reporting to stable? It's not explicitly mentioned in the hardware notes so I'm not sure if my processor is actually supported in 6.2. Is it possible that I've been shipped the wrong processor? If so, how would I be able to tell short of ripping off the giant heatsink and looking? Have a look at the dmesg output with 'dmesg |head -n 24'. There should be some info about the CPU in there. Post those lines here. Lines from dmesg: Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: VIA C7 Esther+RNG+AES+AES-CTR+SHA1+SHA256+RSA (399.40-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = CentaurHauls Id = 0x6a9 Stepping = 9 Features=0xa7c9bbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,CMOV,PAT,CLFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,PBE Features2=0x181SSE3,EST,TM2 It clearly indicates that it's a 400MHz processor, but the timecounter makes me think it' the 1.2 GHz it's supposed to be. And have a look at the bios. It could have some settings to regulate the CPU speed. The BIOS didn't seem to have anything to adjust the CPU speed, but while booting I did notice that it declared itself as a via C7 400MHz processor. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Via C7 Processor (CPU) - cpufreq and make.conf support
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 03:02:21PM -0600, Ross Penner wrote: On 10/24/07, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 02:25:11PM -0600, Ross Penner wrote: What does 'sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq_levels' report? It should list the available CPU frequencies. I get: dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 397/-1 198/-1 Is this something I should be reporting to stable? It's not explicitly mentioned in the hardware notes so I'm not sure if my processor is actually supported in 6.2. Is it possible that I've been shipped the wrong processor? If so, how would I be able to tell short of ripping off the giant heatsink and looking? Have a look at the dmesg output with 'dmesg |head -n 24'. There should be some info about the CPU in there. Post those lines here. Lines from dmesg: Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: VIA C7 Esther+RNG+AES+AES-CTR+SHA1+SHA256+RSA (399.40-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = CentaurHauls Id = 0x6a9 Stepping = 9 Features=0xa7c9bbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,CMOV,PAT,CLFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,PBE Features2=0x181SSE3,EST,TM2 It clearly indicates that it's a 400MHz processor, but the timecounter makes me think it' the 1.2 GHz it's supposed to be. The 'i8254' timecounter is completely independent of the CPU, and the 'Hz' value associated with it has nothing to do with the clock frequency of the CPU. And have a look at the bios. It could have some settings to regulate the CPU speed. The BIOS didn't seem to have anything to adjust the CPU speed, but while booting I did notice that it declared itself as a via C7 400MHz processor. It sounds like the CPU actually is running at 400MHz then. Either that or both the BIOS and FreeBSD misidentifes the CPU speed. It could be that the BIOS do not set up the processor correctly. Are you sure there are no BIOS settings related to the CPU speed? Have you tried updating the BIOS? -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Via C7 Processor (CPU) - cpufreq and make.conf support
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Roland Smith wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 02:25:11PM -0600, Ross Penner wrote: What does 'sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq_levels' report? It should list the available CPU frequencies. I get: dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 397/-1 198/-1 Is this something I should be reporting to stable? It's not explicitly mentioned in the hardware notes so I'm not sure if my processor is actually supported in 6.2. Is it possible that I've been shipped the wrong processor? If so, how would I be able to tell short of ripping off the giant heatsink and looking? Have a look at the dmesg output with 'dmesg |head -n 24'. There should be some info about the CPU in there. Post those lines here. And have a look at the bios. It could have some settings to regulate the CPU speed. Or maybe a related setting like FSB speed (if the Via C7 is like other processors in basing its speed off that). -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
