Re: cannot get screen out of black/black mode...

2007-11-04 Thread Randy Pratt
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 22:14:18 -0800
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
   Where do I set up the screen to never go blan? both in console
   (white on black) mode and in X?  Every so often my video card
   driver (mga) remains blank after 10 to 15 minutes.  And gets
   stuck in this mode.  --FWIW, this did not happen in xorg-6.9--
   only in  the 7.x versions.  My hunch is to never let the screen
   blank.  The screensaver does seem to work, tho.

Blanking in console mode is controlled by /etc/defaults/rc.conf:
 
  blanktime=300# blank time (in seconds) or NO to turn it off.

Put your override in /etc/rc.conf .

Xorg blanking can be set via xset.  To see your settings run
xset q.  If you run xset without arguments, you can get hints
on settings:

For screen-saver control:
 s [timeout [cycle]]  s defaults on
 s blank  s noblanks off
 s expose s noexpose
 s activate   s reset

For more detail, see man xset.

You may also have some window manager screensaver mode to contend
with.

Also as a side, since you're using the xf86-video-mga driver, see

  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=117726

HTH,

Randy
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Re: cannot get screen out of black/black mode...

2007-11-04 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 07:22:07AM -0500, Randy Pratt wrote:
 On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 22:14:18 -0800
 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Where do I set up the screen to never go blan? both in console
  (white on black) mode and in X?  Every so often my video card
  driver (mga) remains blank after 10 to 15 minutes.  And gets
  stuck in this mode.  --FWIW, this did not happen in xorg-6.9--
  only in  the 7.x versions.  My hunch is to never let the screen
  blank.  The screensaver does seem to work, tho.
 
 Blanking in console mode is controlled by /etc/defaults/rc.conf:
  
   blanktime=300# blank time (in seconds) or NO to turn it off.
 
 Put your override in /etc/rc.conf .
 
 Xorg blanking can be set via xset.  To see your settings run
 xset q.  If you run xset without arguments, you can get hints
 on settings:
 
 For screen-saver control:
  s [timeout [cycle]]  s defaults on
  s blank  s noblanks off
  s expose s noexpose
  s activate   s reset
 
 For more detail, see man xset.


Ty, ty, ty!  For unknown reasons (I don't know how I screwed up
and set this:-), I also set the screen to require my passwd to
bring it back to life.  But that's another issue; it'll be awhile
before I figure out the widgets and gimmicks of Gnome/KDE.  
You've givenme a jump.

Will Gnome choke if I put the ``xset [foobar]'' string  in ~/.gnome2?
I want to add some initiation commands for the window manager and
the gnome-[stuff] seems to choke if I make the slightest fumble.
 
 You may also have some window manager screensaver mode to contend
 with.


Hm...  Well, I'll experiment.  One at a time; blanktime=NO 
or xset s off.  
 
 Also as a side, since you're using the xf86-video-mga driver, see
 
   http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=117726
 

Wow, that is very close to my problems:: with my G450 and 
the mga-1.9.100, my screen was only bright at 800x600.  My
workaround,, suggested by a gent in OZ was to use xgamma.
xgamma -gamma 0.100 only works up to 1280x1024; but I've got 
32megs on this video card, which is plenty.  I haven't written a
dev driver in years.  The patch code looks interesting.  

I didn't understand that I could file a PR thru FBSD for an
xorg driver fault... .  
 HTH,
 

really!

gary


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Re: cannot get screen out of black/black mode...

2007-11-04 Thread Randy Pratt
On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 14:18:19 -0800
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 07:22:07AM -0500, Randy Pratt wrote:
  On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 22:14:18 -0800
  Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
 Where do I set up the screen to never go blan? both in console
 (white on black) mode and in X?  Every so often my video card
 driver (mga) remains blank after 10 to 15 minutes.  And gets
 stuck in this mode.  --FWIW, this did not happen in xorg-6.9--
 only in  the 7.x versions.  My hunch is to never let the screen
 blank.  The screensaver does seem to work, tho.
  
  Blanking in console mode is controlled by /etc/defaults/rc.conf:
   
blanktime=300# blank time (in seconds) or NO to turn it off.
  
  Put your override in /etc/rc.conf .
  
  Xorg blanking can be set via xset.  To see your settings run
  xset q.  If you run xset without arguments, you can get hints
  on settings:
  
  For screen-saver control:
   s [timeout [cycle]]  s defaults on
   s blank  s noblanks off
   s expose s noexpose
   s activate   s reset
  
  For more detail, see man xset.
 
 
   Ty, ty, ty!  For unknown reasons (I don't know how I screwed up
   and set this:-), I also set the screen to require my passwd to
   bring it back to life.  But that's another issue; it'll be awhile
   before I figure out the widgets and gimmicks of Gnome/KDE.  
   You've givenme a jump.

Setting of a password does sound like a Gnome/KDE thing.  I can't
comment on that since its been at least 7 or 8 years since I swore off
the mega-managers and use Fluxbox to select which xterm to use ;-)

   Will Gnome choke if I put the ``xset [foobar]'' string  in ~/.gnome2?
   I want to add some initiation commands for the window manager and
   the gnome-[stuff] seems to choke if I make the slightest fumble.

When I'm in Xorg, I just issue the commands from an xterm.  Xset should
keep track of your settings for you without having to add it to
~/.gnome2 .

  You may also have some window manager screensaver mode to contend
  with.
 
 
   Hm...  Well, I'll experiment.  One at a time; blanktime=NO 
   or xset s off.  
  
  Also as a side, since you're using the xf86-video-mga driver, see
  
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=117726
  
 
   Wow, that is very close to my problems:: with my G450 and 
   the mga-1.9.100, my screen was only bright at 800x600.  My
   workaround,, suggested by a gent in OZ was to use xgamma.
   xgamma -gamma 0.100 only works up to 1280x1024; but I've got 
   32megs on this video card, which is plenty.  I haven't written a
   dev driver in years.  The patch code looks interesting.  

I'm of the opinion that these drivers should work out-of-the-box for
a given card with the configuration file generated thru Xorg.  If
they don't then new users will have a less than happy experience
when they install FreeBSD.  Understandably, special features of a
card may require additional hand configurations.

What the patch does is to revert to the mga-1.4.7 with some bug fixes
making it 1.4.7,1 .  If you had no problems with the previous 1.4.7
driver then it should work fine.  Keep in mind, its still a PR and
subject to further modification/approaches.

If you're comfortable with doing local patches and being able to deal
with them during subsequent port updates then it might be worth
considering.

If you want to read further you could look at last week's archive
for freebsd-x11:

  
http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2007/freebsd-x11/20071104.freebsd-x11.html

and this weeks current mailings:

  http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-x11.html

Look for postings regarding the 'mga' driver.

   I didn't understand that I could file a PR thru FBSD for an
   xorg driver fault... .  

Xorg is another third-party software like other ports and can have
a PR filed for a problem.  Of course, its preferable that changes
go upstream so it minimizes patches for FreeBSD since this adds
extra work for the maintainers.

Randy
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Re: cannot get screen out of black/black mode...

2007-11-04 Thread James
  Xorg blanking can be set via xset.  To see your settings run
  xset q.  If you run xset without arguments, you can get hints
  on settings:
 
  For screen-saver control:
   s [timeout [cycle]]  s defaults on
   s blank  s noblanks off
   s expose s noexpose
   s activate   s reset
 
  For more detail, see man xset.


 Ty, ty, ty!  For unknown reasons (I don't know how I screwed up
 and set this:-), I also set the screen to require my passwd to
 bring it back to life.  But that's another issue; it'll be awhile
 before I figure out the widgets and gimmicks of Gnome/KDE.
 You've givenme a jump.



I always deal with this through system-preferences-screensaver preferences
in Gnome. It allows you to configure everything, from whether the screen
blanks through whether you need a password to wake up.
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cannot get screen out of black/black mode...

2007-11-03 Thread Gary Kline

Where do I set up the screen to never go blan? both in console
(white on black) mode and in X?  Every so often my video card
driver (mga) remains blank after 10 to 15 minutes.  And gets
stuck in this mode.  --FWIW, this did not happen in xorg-6.9--
only in  the 7.x versions.  My hunch is to never let the screen
blank.  The screensaver does seem to work, tho.

Anybody help me here?

thanks much,

gary


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