Re: control character file names
Sorry for being to briefly. 1. The Midnight Commander is a curses based file manager that might be a workaround for the problem you can't solve using Emacs at the moment. It can be installed via ports or (more simple) from packages using "pkg_add -r mc". The command to run it is "mc". 2. PF6 (or F6) refers to the programmable function key number 6 which has the function to move or rename files (in the Midnight Commander). By the way, for deleting a directory, PF8 (or F8) - Delete - can be useful. I'm not sure if the MC can be troubled by control characters in filenames, but up to this point, I found nothing the MC couldn't delete anyway. :-) I hope I didn't explain too stupidly, I don't want to sound impolite. Of course I cannot assume anyone to know what a Midnight Commander is or what PF keys (IBM and robotron terminology) are... cool - that worked. thanks for the verbosity :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: control character file names
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:14:32 -0800, Noah wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:59:02 -0800, Noah wrote: > >> I am > >> unable to rename a directory that has nine '?'. > > > > Maybe Midnight Commander - PF6: Rename - will do the job? > > (Workaround) > > > > > > okay I dont quite understand. what is midnight commander - PF6: Rename? Sorry for being to briefly. 1. The Midnight Commander is a curses based file manager that might be a workaround for the problem you can't solve using Emacs at the moment. It can be installed via ports or (more simple) from packages using "pkg_add -r mc". The command to run it is "mc". 2. PF6 (or F6) refers to the programmable function key number 6 which has the function to move or rename files (in the Midnight Commander). By the way, for deleting a directory, PF8 (or F8) - Delete - can be useful. I'm not sure if the MC can be troubled by control characters in filenames, but up to this point, I found nothing the MC couldn't delete anyway. :-) I hope I didn't explain too stupidly, I don't want to sound impolite. Of course I cannot assume anyone to know what a Midnight Commander is or what PF keys (IBM and robotron terminology) are... -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Renaming files with strange characters in dired-mode [was: Re: control character file names]
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:59:02 -0800, Noah wrote: If you have customized `dired-listing-switches' try reverting it to a simpler set of options, like: (setq-default dired-listing-switches "-lFa") The -b and -B options tend to confuse dired about what the *real* filename is, and may trigger this sort of error. thanks I placed that setq option in my .emacs and that works for renaming files and directories containing control character. I am unable to rename a directory that has nine '?'. What setq modification will allow emacs to change those type filenames? This seems like a dired problem. Are the characters _really_ the question mark character, or are they merely characters that are un-displayable in the current coding system? What do you see when you move the point on that filename and then type `C-u C-x ='? If the characters are really the question mark, then the informational buffer that pops up should include something like this: n...@tsunami:/mnt/mybook-music$ ls -lB | less total 1778688 drwxr-xr-x 3 noah noah 0 2005-01-09 15:26 ? -rwx-- 1 noah noah 1841776 2007-12-13 19:57 00_arditi-standards_of_triumph-2006-cd-amrc.jpg -rwx-- 1 noah noah 3223290 2007-12-13 20:02 00_arditi-standards_of_triumph-2006-front-amrc.jpg -rwx-- 1 noah noah 2989502 2007-12-13 20:07 00_arditi-standards_of_triumph-2006-inlay1-amrc.jpg Here is what is shown in emacs: character: ? (63, #o77, #x3f, U+003F) charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV)) code point: #x3F syntax: . which means: punctuation category: a:ASCII graphic characters 32-126 (ISO646 IRV:1983[4/0]) l:Latin buffer code: #x3F file code: #x3F (encoded by coding system mule-utf-8) display: by this font (glyph code) -Adobe-Courier-Medium-R-Normal--12-120-75-75-M-70-ISO8859-1 (#x3F) There are text properties here: dired-filename t face dired-directory fontifiedt help-echo"mouse-2: visit this file in other window" mouse-face highlight ,--- | character: ? (63, #o77, #x3f) | preferred charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV)) |code point: 0x3F |syntax: . which means: punctuation | category: a:ASCII | ASCII graphic characters 32-126 (ISO646 IRV:1983[4/0]) l:Latin r:Roman | Japanese roman | buffer code: #x3F | file code: #x3F (encoded by coding system utf-8-emacs-unix) | display: terminal code #x3F | | Character code properties: customize what to show | name: QUESTION MARK | general-category: Po (Punctuation, Other) | | There are text properties here: | fontifiedt | `--- ASCII code 63 (octal #o77, hex #x3f) in this case is the question-mark character. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: control character file names
Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:59:02 -0800, Noah wrote: I am unable to rename a directory that has nine '?'. Maybe Midnight Commander - PF6: Rename - will do the job? (Workaround) okay I dont quite understand. what is midnight commander - PF6: Rename? Cheers, Noah ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: control character file names
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:59:02 -0800, Noah wrote: > I am > unable to rename a directory that has nine '?'. Maybe Midnight Commander - PF6: Rename - will do the job? (Workaround) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Renaming files with strange characters in dired-mode [was: Re: control character file names]
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:59:02 -0800, Noah wrote: >> If you have customized `dired-listing-switches' try reverting it to a >> simpler set of options, like: >> >> (setq-default dired-listing-switches "-lFa") >> >> The -b and -B options tend to confuse dired about what the *real* >> filename is, and may trigger this sort of error. > > thanks I placed that setq option in my .emacs and that works for > renaming files and directories containing control character. I am > unable to rename a directory that has nine '?'. > > What setq modification will allow emacs to change those type filenames? This seems like a dired problem. Are the characters _really_ the question mark character, or are they merely characters that are un-displayable in the current coding system? What do you see when you move the point on that filename and then type `C-u C-x ='? If the characters are really the question mark, then the informational buffer that pops up should include something like this: ,--- | character: ? (63, #o77, #x3f) | preferred charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV)) |code point: 0x3F |syntax: . which means: punctuation | category: a:ASCII | ASCII graphic characters 32-126 (ISO646 IRV:1983[4/0]) l:Latin r:Roman | Japanese roman | buffer code: #x3F | file code: #x3F (encoded by coding system utf-8-emacs-unix) | display: terminal code #x3F | | Character code properties: customize what to show | name: QUESTION MARK | general-category: Po (Punctuation, Other) | | There are text properties here: | fontifiedt | `--- ASCII code 63 (octal #o77, hex #x3f) in this case is the question-mark character. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: control character file names
Hi there, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:52:01 -0800, Noah wrote: * Use a file manager. I often use `dired-mode' inside an Emacs session to move around, copy, re-organize, rename or delete files. Any file manager that can display several character sets at once will do fine :) Hey there Giorgos, I'd love to use emacs but I go into 'dired-mode' and I try to rename the ^M' directory and receive an error from emacs. The error claims "file-error Renaming no such file or directory /mnt/mybook-music/^M /mnt/mybook-music/Music2 What do I do? If you have customized `dired-listing-switches' try reverting it to a simpler set of options, like: (setq-default dired-listing-switches "-lFa") The -b and -B options tend to confuse dired about what the *real* filename is, and may trigger this sort of error. thanks I placed that setq option in my .emacs and that works for renaming files and directories containing control character. I am unable to rename a directory that has nine '?'. What setq modification will allow emacs to change those type filenames? Cheers, Noah ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: control character file names
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:52:01 -0800, Noah wrote: >> >> * Use a file manager. >> >> I often use `dired-mode' inside an Emacs session to move around, >> copy, re-organize, rename or delete files. Any file manager that >> can display several character sets at once will do fine :) > > Hey there Giorgos, > > I'd love to use emacs but I go into 'dired-mode' and I try to rename the > ^M' directory and receive an error from emacs. The error claims > "file-error Renaming no such file or directory /mnt/mybook-music/^M > /mnt/mybook-music/Music2 > > What do I do? If you have customized `dired-listing-switches' try reverting it to a simpler set of options, like: (setq-default dired-listing-switches "-lFa") The -b and -B options tend to confuse dired about what the *real* filename is, and may trigger this sort of error. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: control character file names
* Use a file manager. I often use `dired-mode' inside an Emacs session to move around, copy, re-organize, rename or delete files. Any file manager that can display several character sets at once will do fine :) Hey there Giorgos, I'd love to use emacs but I go into 'dired-mode' and I try to rename the '^M' directory and receive an error from emacs. The error claims "file-error Renaming no such file or directory /mnt/mybook-music/^M /mnt/mybook-music/Music2 What do I do? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: control character file names
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008, Noah wrote: > Hi there, > > there is a blank directory that I cant seem to view. I believe the > directory is a '^M'. can somebody please explain how I can see > filenames and directories containing control characters. Also how do I > rename the directory with 'mv'? There are various ways to handle this. # this will show the file with special characters escaped ls | cat -v # this will put the output of ls into a file that can then be # edited with vim so one could insert ``mv '' before the funny # file name, and `` newname'' after it. ls > tmpfile As others have mentioned, using a graphical file manager can make it easy as well. Bill -- INTERNET: b...@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun. -- Buckminster Fuller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: control character file names
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:21:22 -0800, Noah wrote: > Hi there, > > there is a blank directory that I cant seem to view. I believe the > directory is a '^M'. can somebody please explain how I can see > filenames and directories containing control characters. Also how do > I rename the directory with 'mv'? There are quite a couple of options: * Use the -B option of the `ls' utility. This should print the non-printable characters using octal numbers, i.e.: $ touch 'foo^Mbar' $ /bin/ls -lB foo* -rw-rw-r-- 1 keramida users 0 Dec 15 04:27 foo\015bar $ * Use a file manager. I often use `dired-mode' inside an Emacs session to move around, copy, re-organize, rename or delete files. Any file manager that can display several character sets at once will do fine :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
control character file names
Hi there, there is a blank directory that I cant seem to view. I believe the directory is a '^M'. can somebody please explain how I can see filenames and directories containing control characters. Also how do I rename the directory with 'mv'? Cheers, Noah ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
