Re: creating a small FreeBSD box

2003-11-05 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik

 I need to make a few FreeBSD boxes, these will all be limited in disk
 space,
 and act as firewall/router. (pentium and 300M disk)
  What I want is a limited operating system that has only the essential
 networking stuff, shell, and a custom kernel but for example no BIND and
 CVS.

For very few boxes just making an 'ideal' machine and cloning may be
easiest.

For a few boxes - Do a man sysinstall - and see the scripting section. Or
see this example:

http://www.horseplay.demon.co.uk/freebsd_post_sysinstall.html

for more complex setups - e.g. booting an install image off the net using
PXE boot or an etherboot floppy - see

http://www.xs4all.nl/~scorpio/sane2002/talk.pdf
http://www.horseplay.demon.co.uk/freebsd_pxe.html
http://www.tnpi.biz/computing/freebsd/pxe-netboot.shtml
http://wiki.wirelessleiden.nl/wcl/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/NodeFactory

Dw
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Re: creating a small FreeBSD box

2003-11-05 Thread Rob Evers
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:

I need to make a few FreeBSD boxes, these will all be limited in disk
space,
and act as firewall/router. (pentium and 300M disk)
What I want is a limited operating system that has only the essential
networking stuff, shell, and a custom kernel but for example no BIND and
CVS.
   

For very few boxes just making an 'ideal' machine and cloning may be
easiest.
For a few boxes - Do a man sysinstall - and see the scripting section. Or
see this example:
	http://www.horseplay.demon.co.uk/freebsd_post_sysinstall.html

for more complex setups - e.g. booting an install image off the net using
PXE boot or an etherboot floppy - see
http://www.xs4all.nl/~scorpio/sane2002/talk.pdf
http://www.horseplay.demon.co.uk/freebsd_pxe.html
http://www.tnpi.biz/computing/freebsd/pxe-netboot.shtml
http://wiki.wirelessleiden.nl/wcl/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/NodeFactory
Dw
 

Thanks,

I have some reading to do :-)

Rob Evers

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Re: creating a small FreeBSD box

2003-11-05 Thread Dofri Jonsson
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:09:43 +0100
Rob Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
 
 I need to make a few FreeBSD boxes, these will all be limited in disk
 space,
 and act as firewall/router. (pentium and 300M disk)
  What I want is a limited operating system that has only the essential
 networking stuff, shell, and a custom kernel but for example no BIND and
 CVS.
 
 
 
 For very few boxes just making an 'ideal' machine and cloning may be
 easiest.
 
 For a few boxes - Do a man sysinstall - and see the scripting section. Or
 see this example:
 
  http://www.horseplay.demon.co.uk/freebsd_post_sysinstall.html
 
 for more complex setups - e.g. booting an install image off the net using
 PXE boot or an etherboot floppy - see
 
  http://www.xs4all.nl/~scorpio/sane2002/talk.pdf
  http://www.horseplay.demon.co.uk/freebsd_pxe.html
  http://www.tnpi.biz/computing/freebsd/pxe-netboot.shtml
  http://wiki.wirelessleiden.nl/wcl/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/NodeFactory
 
 Dw
   
 
 Thanks,
 
 I have some reading to do :-)
 
 Rob Evers
 

There's also miniBSD:
http://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html

Dofri
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Re: creating a small FreeBSD box

2003-11-05 Thread Shantanoo Mahajan
+++ Rob Evers [freebsd] [05-11-03 12:42 +0100]:
| Hi all,
| 
| I need to make a few FreeBSD boxes, these will all be limited in disk 
| space,
| and act as firewall/router. (pentium and 300M disk)
| What I want is a limited operating system that has only the essential
| networking stuff, shell, and a custom kernel but for example no BIND and 
| CVS.
| In the end all machines should have the same OS installed.
| 
| What's a good way to handle this?
| Making a custom release, an install script, tweaking make.conf and 
| install from
| source or of course something else. (I don't need a ready solution, but some
| insight in how to acomplish this task in an efficient manner.)
| 
| Thanks
| 
| Rob Evers
| 
| 
| --


man picobsd

Regards,
Shantanoo
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Re: creating a small FreeBSD box

2003-11-05 Thread Rick Duvall
I use a little box built by Intel in my house for my DSL.  It's an ITX
formfactor chassis.  It has 1 ethernet on board and 1 PCI slot where you can
put a second NIC.  There are no drive bays, so you have to take the machine
apart to plug a temporary CD-Rom drive into the motherboard to install the
OS.  In my case, I already had a hard drive with FreeBSD loaded on it, so I
just transplanted the drive into the ITX chassis.

As far as hard drive, it's hard to find 300M drives anymore.  Your best bet
would be to go for the least expensive drive you can, even if it is a 20 gig
IDE.  Nothing says that you can't have a 20 gig drive and only use 300M of
space on it.  Sure, it's a waste of drive space, but who cares if you only
pay $40 for a drive that has a 5 year warranty.

You also might want to look at solid state filesystem.  I think this has
been discussed on the list from time to time.  Then you only have to worry
about cooling fans.

Sincerely,

Rick Duvall
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 +++ Rob Evers [freebsd] [05-11-03 12:42 +0100]:
 | Hi all,
 |
 | I need to make a few FreeBSD boxes, these will all be limited in disk
 | space,
 | and act as firewall/router. (pentium and 300M disk)
 | What I want is a limited operating system that has only the essential
 | networking stuff, shell, and a custom kernel but for example no BIND and
 | CVS.
 | In the end all machines should have the same OS installed.
 |
 | What's a good way to handle this?
 | Making a custom release, an install script, tweaking make.conf and
 | install from
 | source or of course something else. (I don't need a ready solution, but
some
 | insight in how to acomplish this task in an efficient manner.)
 |
 | Thanks
 |
 | Rob Evers
 |
 |
 | --


 man picobsd

 Regards,
 Shantanoo
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Re: creating a small FreeBSD box

2003-11-05 Thread Scott W
Rick Duvall wrote:

I use a little box built by Intel in my house for my DSL.  It's an ITX
formfactor chassis.  It has 1 ethernet on board and 1 PCI slot where you can
put a second NIC.  There are no drive bays, so you have to take the machine
apart to plug a temporary CD-Rom drive into the motherboard to install the
OS.  In my case, I already had a hard drive with FreeBSD loaded on it, so I
just transplanted the drive into the ITX chassis.
As far as hard drive, it's hard to find 300M drives anymore.  Your best bet
would be to go for the least expensive drive you can, even if it is a 20 gig
IDE.  Nothing says that you can't have a 20 gig drive and only use 300M of
space on it.  Sure, it's a waste of drive space, but who cares if you only
pay $40 for a drive that has a 5 year warranty.
You also might want to look at solid state filesystem.  I think this has
been discussed on the list from time to time.  Then you only have to worry
about cooling fans.
Sincerely,

Rick Duvall
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From: Shantanoo Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rob Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:55 AM
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+++ Rob Evers [freebsd] [05-11-03 12:42 +0100]:
| Hi all,
|
| I need to make a few FreeBSD boxes, these will all be limited in disk
| space,
| and act as firewall/router. (pentium and 300M disk)
| What I want is a limited operating system that has only the essential
| networking stuff, shell, and a custom kernel but for example no BIND and
| CVS.
| In the end all machines should have the same OS installed.
|
| What's a good way to handle this?
| Making a custom release, an install script, tweaking make.conf and
| install from
| source or of course something else. (I don't need a ready solution, but
   

some
 

| insight in how to acomplish this task in an efficient manner.)
|
| Thanks
|
| Rob Evers
|
|
| --
man picobsd

Regards,
Shantanoo
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FWIW, solid state disks can definitely be pretty slick- was working on a 
hardware project at a company years ago and testing different hardware 
configurations, RAID stripe and segment sizes, differences in cache 
size, etc etc, and we saw some pretty decent speed gains in playing 
around with solid state disks.  At the time, it was somewhere in the 
neighborhood of 10k for ONE drive, but with the dot-com bust and for a 
smaller disk, there may be some good deals to be had on solid state  
1GB disks (eBay?)  Anyone price those used lately or have any longevity 
concerns?  (Never did run one for more than a month or two, but it 
SHOULD be more reliable than physical platters...)

Scott

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