[ports] Need help for port which claims to install but doesn't; package installs ok

2012-05-27 Thread Gary Aitken
First, my apologies for previous posts which hijacked an existing thread.
I thought changing the subject line was ok and had forgotten about in-reply-to.

So my apologies for a repost; I've gotten no replies and am not sure others 
actually
saw / processed it or just ignored because of the bad etiquette.  
As my mother told me, I'll never get to eat with the Queen.
Trying to be a good citizen, not always succeeding...

I'm having trouble installing some ports, notably
  devel/libmowgli 
  multimedia/libdvdcss
Running on a 4 processor amd64 with 16GB
  make -v install 
claims to install, 
but none of the files which should have been installed are actually there.

I've done:

portsnap fetch
portsnap update
pkgdb -F

portupgrade -irRv libmowgli
  ** None has been installed or upgraded.

cd devel/libmowgli
make distclean
make clean
make -v install
  At this point
/usr/local/include/libmowgli
  should exist and contain a bunch of .h files; but the dir doesn't even 
exist
/usr/local/lib
  should contain a number of libmowgli.* files; but there are none

Deinstalling shows the above headers and libs are not there as expected:
pkg_deinstall -v libmowgli-1.0.0
---  Deinstalling 'libmowgli-1.0.0'
Change working directory to /usr/local
Delete file /usr/local/include/libmowgli/mowgli.h
pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/include/libmowgli/mowgli.h' doesn't exist
...
Delete file /usr/local/lib/libmowgli.so
pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/lib/libmowgli.so' doesn't exist
...
Delete directory /usr/local/include/libmowgli
pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/include/libmowgli' doesn't exist
pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/include/libmowgli'
Execute '/sbin/ldconfig -R'
pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package `libmowgli-1.0.0'
(perhaps the packing list is incorrectly specified?)
[Updating the pkgdb format:bdb_btree in /var/db/pkg ... - 571 packages found 
(-1 +0) (...) done]
---  Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
+ libmowgli-1.0.0
---  Packages processed: 1 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 0 failed

Assuming everything is clean at this point, doing:

  make distclean
  make clean
  make -v install

still ends up with empty directories.

Portions of the output from make -v install which fails:

===  License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE
= libmowgli-1.0.0.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
= Attempting to fetch http://distfiles.atheme.org/libmowgli-1.0.0.tar.bz2
libmowgli-1.0.0.tar.bz2   100% of  103 kB  129 kBps
===  Extracting for libmowgli-1.0.0
= SHA256 Checksum OK for libmowgli-1.0.0.tar.bz2.
===  Patching for libmowgli-1.0.0
===   libmowgli-1.0.0 depends on executable: gmake - found
===  Configuring for libmowgli-1.0.0
...
===  Building for libmowgli-1.0.0
...
===  Installing for libmowgli-1.0.0
===   Generating temporary packing list
===  Checking if devel/libmowgli already installed
...
===   Running ldconfig
/sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib
===   Registering installation for libmowgli-1.0.0

Downloading the tarball and using pkg_add works, at least for libmowgli.
However, there is no package for libdvdcss for amd64 at ftp.freebsd.org,
so I need this to work.

Any hints on what might be wrong, or how to get some expanded output 
from the port install process, would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Gary


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User can't login but /etc/(master.)passwd OK

2012-05-09 Thread n dhert
I have a problem with a login on FreeBSD (8.3-p1)

Dont' know what was done wrong, but a certain user (lets call it
THATUSER) can no longer login.

the entries for 'THATUSER in /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd are still
the same as from a backup
of 14 days ago (no change in encrypted passwd)
The /etc/pwd.db and /etc/spwd.db  are binary files so I can't check..

The home-directory of THATUSER is still present and contents looks normal ..

All users have quota, but for this particular user:
# quota -v THATUSER
responds
quota: THATUSER: unknown user
# edquota -u THATUSER
edquota: THATUSER: no such user
# repquota /home does not show that user anymore

Other users, no problem
So it seems that user is unknown to the system ??

What can be the reason and how to solve ?
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Re: User can't login but /etc/(master.)passwd OK

2012-05-09 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 9 May 2012 14:04:35 +0200, n dhert wrote:
 the entries for 'THATUSER in /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd are still
 the same as from a backup
 of 14 days ago (no change in encrypted passwd)
 The /etc/pwd.db and /etc/spwd.db  are binary files so I can't check..

You can easily rebuild them from the text files using pwd_mkdb.
Is /ect/group also okay?



 The home-directory of THATUSER is still present and contents looks normal ..

Does the home directory itself (the path leading to it)
also look correct (owner  permissions)?



 All users have quota, but for this particular user:
 # quota -v THATUSER
 responds
 quota: THATUSER: unknown user
 # edquota -u THATUSER
 edquota: THATUSER: no such user
 # repquota /home does not show that user anymore

Maybe a side effect? Can you provide more error messages
maybe? Does /var/log/messages or /var/log/auth.log show
something relevant when the user in question attempts an
login?




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Re: User can't login but /etc/(master.)passwd OK

2012-05-09 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Wed May  9 07:09:19 2012
 Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:04:35 +0200
 From: n dhert ndhert...@gmail.com
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: User can't login but /etc/(master.)passwd OK

 I have a problem with a login on FreeBSD (8.3-p1)

 Dont' know what was done wrong, but a certain user (lets call it
 THATUSER) can no longer login.

 the entries for 'THATUSER in /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd are still
 the same as from a backup
 of 14 days ago (no change in encrypted passwd)
 The /etc/pwd.db and /etc/spwd.db  are binary files so I can't check..

 The home-directory of THATUSER is still present and contents looks normal ..

Details are *IMPORTANT* grin

What is shown for the 'owner' useraame/groupname for files in that directory?

What does a long-form listing of the entry for the home-directory _itself_
show?  Specifically with regard to the 'owner' username and groupname?

 All users have quota, but for this particular user:
 # quota -v THATUSER
 responds
 quota: THATUSER: unknown user
 # edquota -u THATUSER
 edquota: THATUSER: no such user
 # repquota /home does not show that user anymore

 Other users, no problem
 So it seems that user is unknown to the system ??

 What can be the reason and how to solve ?

All of this suggests that user THATUSER is -not- the name that you think
it is.

Possibly that some glyph in THATUSER is not in the ASCII set, but is an
'extended' character  that 'looks like' an ASII symbol in what you are
keyboarding to represent THATUSER.

*OR* that there is 'whitespace' preceeding/following THATUSER.

*OR* that there is an embedded {char}[BS] sequence.

Does 'grep THATUSER /etc/passwd' produce a user line as you expect?

IF so, does 'grep THATUSER /etc/passwd | od -xc' show anything
'unexpected'?

How about the same checks on /etc/master.passwd ?







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Re: User can't login but /etc/(master.)passwd OK

2012-05-09 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:

 Details are *IMPORTANT* grin

What's the user's shell in the password file, and does that shell:
exist?  executable?  In the /etc/shells file?
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Re: User can't login but /etc/(master.)passwd OK

2012-05-09 Thread Brian

On 5/9/2012 8:08 AM, Michael Sierchio wrote:

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Robert Bonomibon...@mail.r-bonomi.com  wrote:


Details are *IMPORTANT*grin

What's the user's shell in the password file, and does that shell:
exist?  executable?  In the /etc/shells file?
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The OP probably ought to look at /var/log files as well to see if 
anything is revealed there. Access can be denied for reasons other than 
passwords.


BW
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Re: User can't login but /etc/(master.)passwd OK

2012-05-09 Thread Tim K

On 05/09/12 12:02, Brian wrote:

On 5/9/2012 8:08 AM, Michael Sierchio wrote:
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Robert 
Bonomibon...@mail.r-bonomi.com  wrote:



Details are *IMPORTANT*grin

What's the user's shell in the password file, and does that shell:
exist?  executable?  In the /etc/shells file?
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The OP probably ought to look at /var/log files as well to see if 
anything is revealed there. Access can be denied for reasons other 
than passwords.


BW


And a su -l [thatuser] as root would probably spit out some handy 
console messages right away.


Tim
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Dual monitors ok, but no mouse and keyboard action on the slave screen

2012-04-22 Thread Kenneth Hatteland
I`ve gotten a 17 inch monitor in addition to my 22 inch working with 2 
separate desktops. I plan to have stuff like wireshark etc on the 
smallest. But I have a problem, I can get no work done since I have no 
mouse or keyboard working on the 17...


Anyone have somewhere with a solution to point me towards ?

Blessed be..

Kenneth Hatteland
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Re: Dual monitors ok, but no mouse and keyboard action on the slave screen

2012-04-22 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 13:43:31 +0200, Kenneth Hatteland wrote:
 I`ve gotten a 17 inch monitor in addition to my 22 inch working with 2 
 separate desktops. I plan to have stuff like wireshark etc on the 
 smallest. But I have a problem, I can get no work done since I have no 
 mouse or keyboard working on the 17...
 
 Anyone have somewhere with a solution to point me towards ?

There are basically two kind of two-monitor settings: One
is to have the WM manage them, the other one is to concatenate
them to one logical screen.

I've been using the concatenated screen with two 21 CRTs,
each running at 1400x1050, so the result was a 2800x1050
ultra extended extraordinary super hyper big wide screen. :-)

You can configure this in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (which you
can have X auto-generate).

For example, ServerLayout could contain

Screen 0 Screen0 0 0
Screen 1 Screen1 LeftOf Screen0
Option Xinerama on

Then add the two Monitor sections according to the screen
parameters (in my case, identical data).

In the final Screen section, you can then experiment with

Option TwinView
Option TwinViewOrientation LeftOf
Option ConnectedMonitor CRT, CRT

depending on your actual connection setup.



You can find more inspiration here:

Dual head issues, non-xinerama setup possible?
http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=11567

Dual monitor setup
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2005-January/005613.html

Dual monitors xorg.conf
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-May/087929.html

Using two monitors with X.org
http://www.freebsddiary.org/xorg-two-screens.php



Many things to consider depend on your actual setting (which
hardware you have, what WM you use and which behaviour you
want).



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Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: Dual monitors ok, but no mouse and keyboard action on the slave screen

2012-04-22 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012, Polytropon wrote:


On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 13:43:31 +0200, Kenneth Hatteland wrote:

I`ve gotten a 17 inch monitor in addition to my 22 inch working with 2
separate desktops. I plan to have stuff like wireshark etc on the
smallest. But I have a problem, I can get no work done since I have no
mouse or keyboard working on the 17...

Anyone have somewhere with a solution to point me towards ?


There are basically two kind of two-monitor settings: One
is to have the WM manage them, the other one is to concatenate
them to one logical screen.

I've been using the concatenated screen with two 21 CRTs,
each running at 1400x1050, so the result was a 2800x1050
ultra extended extraordinary super hyper big wide screen. :-)

You can configure this in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (which you
can have X auto-generate).

For example, ServerLayout could contain

Screen 0 Screen0 0 0
Screen 1 Screen1 LeftOf Screen0
Option Xinerama on


The newer way to do this is with a Virtual entry in the Screen section:

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   HWP
ModelName2615
Option   PreferredMode 1920x1200
Option   Position 1280 0
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor1
VendorName   SAM
ModelName215
Option   PreferredMode 1280x1024
Option   Position 0 0
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
SubSection Display
Virtual 3200 1200
EndSubSection
EndSection
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TAB not jumping to OK in options screen

2012-01-23 Thread n dhert
I installed a new FreeBSD-8.2 system
and installed a few ports, no problem
Then I do want to install Xorg
# cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg
# make install clean
At the package libxslt 1.1.26_3 it gives me an options screen.
I hit TAB to go to the OK button, but it just moves the cursor 8 postions
to the right on the same line.
I can't get to the OK prommpt
With the several packages I installed before I had no problem with the
usage of TAB in the options screen.

What can be the cause and how to fix it?
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Re: TAB not jumping to OK in options screen

2012-01-23 Thread claudiu vasadi
Hi,

I've never experienced anything similar but one workaround is to edit the
Makefile: and change the Off to On for the options you need, and the
other way around for the options you don;t need.

Still, the real problem eludes me and that;s the one that needs fixing.



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Claudiu Vasadi
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Re: TAB not jumping to OK in options screen

2012-01-23 Thread n dhert
Well, I wanted the output to be logged, so in fact I did
# make install clean | tee /tmp/xorg-install.txt

Now, I tried again without the | tee ... and there wasn't a problem now ...

But the  | tee   shouldn't be a problem, since in my script I run every
week for a number
of years already to do portupgrades, I have also a line
 portupgrade ...(my options)... | tee /tmp/portupgrade-mail
this regularly offers me an options screen ... and I never had a problem

Weird...



2012/1/23 claudiu vasadi claudiu.vas...@gmail.com


 Hi,

 I've never experienced anything similar but one workaround is to edit the
 Makefile: and change the Off to On for the options you need, and the
 other way around for the options you don;t need.

 Still, the real problem eludes me and that;s the one that needs fixing.



 --
 Best regards,
 Claudiu Vasadi


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Fwd: wrong MD5 and SHA256 ?!? OK!!!!!!!

2012-01-21 Thread Ruben R. Shkhikyan
It's OK, You've already changed the 
FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.im on site, the checksums are the 
same as I calculate.

Thanks.

Best regards,
Ruben




 Original Message 
Subject:wrong MD5 and SHA256 ?!?
Date:   Sun, 22 Jan 2012 02:29:08 +0400
From:   Ruben R. Shkhikyan shkhik...@gmail.com
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org



Hi,
why the MD5 and SHA256 of FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img are wrong?

(MD5: FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img =
79ddd8f3422e209ae9bd11fee4e399eb) - Your Calculation
(MD5: FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img =
F9DDF26894FCF7EA5813D7D9099FF6A4) - My Calculation (with WinHex)

(SHA256 (FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img =
99193a7895109d415936ba89e4f2c24227af48f064073dee7c4b49722c3656f8) - Your
Calculation
(SHA256 (FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img =
3A325895F4D9E14F0F60F9A7ADF50C73DB71C7BA833D2E5A27A34985B6F88523) - My
Calculation (with WinHex)


Best regards,
Ruben.


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OK, now perl won't install...

2010-11-07 Thread Ron (Lists)
Based on advice to switch to portmaster from portupgrade, I am now 
having a problem with perl. When I went to upgrade a perl package, it 
re-installed perl, but fail (and removed perl).  I am getting this 
message:


===  perl-5.8.9_3 : Your apache does not support DSO modules.

I have tried to configure and upgrade apache but get this message;

/usr/local/sbin/apxs: not found
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.apache.mk, line 245: warning: 
/usr/local/sbin/apxs -q MPM_NAME returned non-zero status


How do I upgrade apache (or is this something else going wrong)?

Help!  My system is really screwed up without perl running.

Ron

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Re: ok, i give up...

2010-07-31 Thread Frank Shute
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:08:20PM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:

 Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
  On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:04:51PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
   guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog
   than i had YEARS ago.  cannot find.  
   
   it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii.  things like
   
   QUOTE
   
   # Bill's birthday:
   08 08 echo Send Bill a birthday card.
   
   # watch one-time broadcast!!
   08 09 2010  echo: Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours
   
   /QUOTE
 ...
  deskutils/ical ?
 
 Good program, but probably not what the OP had in mind.
 ical's .calendar file, while ascii, is in a structured
 format which would be a bit of a pain to edit by hand;
 and I don't recall its being set up to send email.
 

No, it's not able to send email AFAIK.

If Gary just wants reminders of when to take pills, then I would
recommend him to use at(1) and get it to call a file which calls
xmessage at the correct times of day. E.g. that file contains:

export DISPLAY=:0.0
xmessage -geom 100x100+100+100 Take pills!

or if you want to use email use mail(1) and at(1)
 
I don't think anybodys mentioned at(1). It's in base and not a port,
xmessage is a port.


Regards,

-- 

 Frank

 Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html


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Re: ok, i give up...

2010-07-31 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 03:40:00PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:08:20PM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
 
  Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
   On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:04:51PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog
than i had YEARS ago.  cannot find.  

it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii.  things like

QUOTE

# Bill's birthday:
08 08 echo Send Bill a birthday card.

# watch one-time broadcast!!
08 09 2010  echo: Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours

/QUOTE
  ...
   deskutils/ical ?
  
  Good program, but probably not what the OP had in mind.
  ical's .calendar file, while ascii, is in a structured
  format which would be a bit of a pain to edit by hand;
  and I don't recall its being set up to send email.
  
 
 No, it's not able to send email AFAIK.
 
 If Gary just wants reminders of when to take pills, then I would
 recommend him to use at(1) and get it to call a file which calls
 xmessage at the correct times of day. E.g. that file contains:
 
 export DISPLAY=:0.0
 xmessage -geom 100x100+100+100 Take pills!
 
 or if you want to use email use mail(1) and at(1)
  
 I don't think anybodys mentioned at(1). It's in base and not a port,
 xmessage is a port.
 



This might work for ssomething like a reminder to down my pills.
I completely forgot about 'at'.  

:-
)

gary


 
 Regards,
 
 -- 
 
  Frank
 
  Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html
 
 

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Re: ok, i give up...

2010-07-31 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Gary Kline on Saturday, 31 July 2010:
 On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 03:40:00PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
  On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:08:20PM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
  
   Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:04:51PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog
 than i had YEARS ago.  cannot find.  
 
 it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii.  things like
 
 QUOTE
 
 # Bill's birthday:
 08 08 echo Send Bill a birthday card.
 
 # watch one-time broadcast!!
 08 09 2010  echo: Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours
 
 /QUOTE
   ...
deskutils/ical ?
   
   Good program, but probably not what the OP had in mind.
   ical's .calendar file, while ascii, is in a structured
   format which would be a bit of a pain to edit by hand;
   and I don't recall its being set up to send email.
   
  
  No, it's not able to send email AFAIK.
  
  If Gary just wants reminders of when to take pills, then I would
  recommend him to use at(1) and get it to call a file which calls
  xmessage at the correct times of day. E.g. that file contains:
  
  export DISPLAY=:0.0
  xmessage -geom 100x100+100+100 Take pills!
  
  or if you want to use email use mail(1) and at(1)
   
  I don't think anybodys mentioned at(1). It's in base and not a port,
  xmessage is a port.
  
 
 
 
   This might work for ssomething like a reminder to down my pills.
   I completely forgot about 'at'.  
 
   :-
   )
 
   gary

Using the 'when' scripts I developed, you can generate reminders that will
pipe to anything, including mail or xmessage 
(http://chipstips.com/?tag=rbremindwhen)

I send mine to my xmobar in bright yellow, so it gets my attention but
doesn't require me to close a dialog or anything.

 
 
  
  Regards,
  
  -- 
  
   Frank
  
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Re: ok, i give up...

2010-07-31 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:30:01PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
 Quoth Gary Kline on Saturday, 31 July 2010:
  On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 03:40:00PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
   On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:08:20PM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
   
Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:04:51PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog
  than i had YEARS ago.  cannot find.  
  
  it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii.  things like
  
  QUOTE
  
  # Bill's birthday:
  08 08 echo Send Bill a birthday card.
  
  # watch one-time broadcast!!
  08 09 2010  echo: Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours
  
  /QUOTE
...
 deskutils/ical ?

Good program, but probably not what the OP had in mind.
ical's .calendar file, while ascii, is in a structured
format which would be a bit of a pain to edit by hand;
and I don't recall its being set up to send email.

   
   No, it's not able to send email AFAIK.
   
   If Gary just wants reminders of when to take pills, then I would
   recommend him to use at(1) and get it to call a file which calls
   xmessage at the correct times of day. E.g. that file contains:
   
   export DISPLAY=:0.0
   xmessage -geom 100x100+100+100 Take pills!
   
   or if you want to use email use mail(1) and at(1)

   I don't think anybodys mentioned at(1). It's in base and not a port,
   xmessage is a port.
   
  
  
  
  This might work for ssomething like a reminder to down my pills.
  I completely forgot about 'at'.  
  
  :-
  )
  
  gary
 
 Using the 'when' scripts I developed, you can generate reminders that will
 pipe to anything, including mail or xmessage 
 (http://chipstips.com/?tag=rbremindwhen)
 
 I send mine to my xmobar in bright yellow, so it gets my attention but
 doesn't require me to close a dialog or anything.
 


i grabbed your tarball last night, chip.  going to have a look!

gary


  
  
   
   Regards,
   
   -- 
   
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Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html
   
   
  
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Re: ok, i give up...

2010-07-29 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko

29.07.2010 05:04, Gary Kline wrote:

guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS
ago.  cannot find.

it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii.  things like

QUOTE

# Bill's birthday:
08 08 echo Send Bill a birthday card.

# watch one-time broadcast!!
08 09 2010  echo: Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours

/QUOTE


i have forgotten the exact name of the ascii datafile and the calander
program.  can't find it in ports despite around 2.75 hours of make
search key=calender |grep -1 Info | more 

I'm pretty sure i wasn't//am NOT hallucinating.  --there was an X popuo
when the date time was hit.  i had to click on the Popup/dialog? to get
rid of it.

anybody know what this was? it goes back at least to the late 1990's.


man calendar? It can send mail if you want. It's also integrated into 
daily scripts.


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Re: ok, i give up...

2010-07-29 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:04:51PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:

 guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS
 ago.  cannot find.  
 
 it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii.  things like
 
 QUOTE
 
 # Bill's birthday:
 08 08 echo Send Bill a birthday card.
 
 # watch one-time broadcast!!
 08 09 2010  echo: Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours
 
 /QUOTE
 
 
 i have forgotten the exact name of the ascii datafile and the calander
 program.  can't find it in ports despite around 2.75 hours of make
 search key=calender |grep -1 Info | more 
 
 I'm pretty sure i wasn't//am NOT hallucinating.  --there was an X popuo
 when the date time was hit.  i had to click on the Popup/dialog? to get
 rid of it.
 
 anybody know what this was? it goes back at least to the late 1990's.
 
 tia, y'all,
 
 gary
 
 PS: and now, time for a brew or maybe a =NAP=
 
 []
 

deskutils/ical ?


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Re: ok, i give up...

2010-07-29 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:15:53PM -0400, Glenn Sieb wrote:
 On 7/28/10 10:04 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
  guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS
  ago.  cannot find.  
 
 http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/remind
 
 Would it be Remind?
 
 Best,
 --Glenn
 

i THOUGHT so, but nope...  

gary


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Re: ok, i give up...

2010-07-29 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:15:53PM -0400, Glenn Sieb wrote:
 On 7/28/10 10:04 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
  guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS
  ago.  cannot find.

 http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/remind

 Would it be Remind?


        i THOUGHT so, but nope...

        gary

It can only be calendar(1), part of the base system. I was using it
over 25 years ago already and ever since on all kinds of Unices:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=calendarapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+8.1-RELEASEformat=html

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-cpghost.

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Re: ok, i give up...

2010-07-29 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 08:37:27PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
 Quoth Gary Kline on Wednesday, 28 July 2010:
  guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS
  ago.  cannot find.  
  
  it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii.  things like
  
  QUOTE
  
  # Bill's birthday:
  08 08 echo Send Bill a birthday card.
  
  # watch one-time broadcast!!
  08 09 2010  echo: Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours
  
  /QUOTE
  
  
  i have forgotten the exact name of the ascii datafile and the calander
  program.  can't find it in ports despite around 2.75 hours of make
  search key=calender |grep -1 Info | more 
  
  I'm pretty sure i wasn't//am NOT hallucinating.  --there was an X popuo
  when the date time was hit.  i had to click on the Popup/dialog? to get
  rid of it.
  
  anybody know what this was? it goes back at least to the late 1990's.
  
  tia, y'all,
  
  gary
  
  PS: and now, time for a brew or maybe a =NAP=
  
  []
  
  
 /usr/ports/deskutils/when
 
 my favorite.  I've written a lot of scripts to supplement it, too:
 
 http://chipstips.com/?tag=rbremindwhen
 
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Yup, this has to be it, altho i thought i was using this  2003.
i'll ck out your scripts, thanks muchly.

gary

ps:  main thing i need it for is something like

 */6 have you remmbered your meds!  

or somesuch.  sitting and hacking away, i tend to ferget everthing.
somebody will find me here at computer, frozen, cobwebs and the 
whole bit. :)




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Re: ok, i give up...

2010-07-29 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS
 ago.  cannot find.

 it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii.  things like

 QUOTE

 # Bill's birthday:
 08 08 echo Send Bill a birthday card.

 # watch one-time broadcast!!
 08 09 2010  echo: Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours

 /QUOTE


 i have forgotten the exact name of the ascii datafile and the calander
 program.  can't find it in ports despite around 2.75 hours of make
 search key=calender |grep -1 Info | more 

 I'm pretty sure i wasn't//am NOT hallucinating.  --there was an X popuo
 when the date time was hit.  i had to click on the Popup/dialog? to get
 rid of it.

 anybody know what this was? it goes back at least to the late 1990's.

 tia, y'all,

 gary

 PS: and now, time for a brew or maybe a =NAP=

 []

http://www.freshports.org/misc/birthday/ ?
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Re: ok, i give up...

2010-07-29 Thread perryh
Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:04:51PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog
  than i had YEARS ago.  cannot find.  
  
  it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii.  things like
  
  QUOTE
  
  # Bill's birthday:
  08 08 echo Send Bill a birthday card.
  
  # watch one-time broadcast!!
  08 09 2010  echo: Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours
  
  /QUOTE
...
 deskutils/ical ?

Good program, but probably not what the OP had in mind.
ical's .calendar file, while ascii, is in a structured
format which would be a bit of a pain to edit by hand;
and I don't recall its being set up to send email.
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Re: ok, i give up...

2010-07-29 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Gary == Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes:

Gary guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS
Gary ago.  cannot find.  

Gary it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii.  things like

Gary QUOTE

Gary # Bill's birthday:
Gary 08 08 echo Send Bill a birthday card.

Gary # watch one-time broadcast!!
Gary 08 09 2010  echo: Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours

Gary /QUOTE

remind?

http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/remind

http://www.freshports.org/deskutils/remind/

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Re: ok, i give up...

2010-07-29 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:20:41PM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
  Gary == Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes:
 
 Gary guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS
 Gary ago.  cannot find.  
 
 Gary it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii.  things like
 
 Gary QUOTE
 
 Gary # Bill's birthday:
 Gary 08 08 echo Send Bill a birthday card.
 
 Gary # watch one-time broadcast!!
 Gary 08 09 2010  echo: Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours
 
 Gary /QUOTE
 
 remind?
 
 http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/remind
 
 http://www.freshports.org/deskutils/remind/
 
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it was `when'; i need a ~/.dotfile template that i can edit and
i'll be able to try.   last time, years back, i found [or was send]
a template and edited to my own use.

the nice thing about this program is that it pops up a small
rectangle and you have to click on the rectangle to clear your
screen. 

thanks to everybody who responded!

gary



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ok, i give up...

2010-07-28 Thread Gary Kline
guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS
ago.  cannot find.  

it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii.  things like

QUOTE

# Bill's birthday:
08 08 echo Send Bill a birthday card.

# watch one-time broadcast!!
08 09 2010  echo: Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours

/QUOTE


i have forgotten the exact name of the ascii datafile and the calander
program.  can't find it in ports despite around 2.75 hours of make
search key=calender |grep -1 Info | more 

I'm pretty sure i wasn't//am NOT hallucinating.  --there was an X popuo
when the date time was hit.  i had to click on the Popup/dialog? to get
rid of it.

anybody know what this was? it goes back at least to the late 1990's.

tia, y'all,

gary

PS: and now, time for a brew or maybe a =NAP=

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Re: ok, i give up...

2010-07-28 Thread Glenn Sieb
On 7/28/10 10:04 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
 guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS
 ago.  cannot find.  

http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/remind

Would it be Remind?

Best,
--Glenn

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Re: ok, i give up...

2010-07-28 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Gary Kline on Wednesday, 28 July 2010:
 guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS
 ago.  cannot find.  
 
 it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii.  things like
 
 QUOTE
 
 # Bill's birthday:
 08 08 echo Send Bill a birthday card.
 
 # watch one-time broadcast!!
 08 09 2010  echo: Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours
 
 /QUOTE
 
 
 i have forgotten the exact name of the ascii datafile and the calander
 program.  can't find it in ports despite around 2.75 hours of make
 search key=calender |grep -1 Info | more 
 
 I'm pretty sure i wasn't//am NOT hallucinating.  --there was an X popuo
 when the date time was hit.  i had to click on the Popup/dialog? to get
 rid of it.
 
 anybody know what this was? it goes back at least to the late 1990's.
 
 tia, y'all,
 
 gary
 
 PS: and now, time for a brew or maybe a =NAP=
 
 []
 
 
/usr/ports/deskutils/when

my favorite.  I've written a lot of scripts to supplement it, too:

http://chipstips.com/?tag=rbremindwhen

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FWD: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-15 Thread Len Conrad

-- Original Message --
From:  Len Conrad lcon...@go2france.com
Reply-To:  lcon...@go2france.com
Date:  Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:48:26 +0200

the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows:

CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
  
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  Features2=0x659dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14
  AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM
  Logical CPUs per core: 2
real memory  = 3220963328 (3071 MB)
avail memory = 3150913536 (3004 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: DELL   PE BKC  
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  6
 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  7
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8
ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9
ioapic1: WARNING: intbase 32 != expected base 24
ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 10
ioapic2: WARNING: intbase 64 != expected base 56
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 32-55 on motherboard
ioapic2 Version 2.0 irqs 64-87 on motherboard

thanks,
Len

==

So, is there a definite, unique answer? 

Does it matter whether I run IA64 or AMD64 in the above Dell 1850?

Len



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Re: FWD: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-15 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 03:13:49PM +0200, Len Conrad wrote:
 
 -- Original Message --
 From:  Len Conrad lcon...@go2france.com
 Reply-To:  lcon...@go2france.com
 Date:  Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:48:26 +0200
 
 the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows:
 
 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
   Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
   
 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
   Features2=0x659dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14
   AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM
   Logical CPUs per core: 2
 real memory  = 3220963328 (3071 MB)
 avail memory = 3150913536 (3004 MB)
 ACPI APIC Table: DELL   PE BKC  
 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
  cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
  cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
  cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  6
  cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  7
 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8
 ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9
 ioapic1: WARNING: intbase 32 != expected base 24
 ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 10
 ioapic2: WARNING: intbase 64 != expected base 56
 ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
 ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 32-55 on motherboard
 ioapic2 Version 2.0 irqs 64-87 on motherboard
 
 thanks,
 Len
 
 ==
 
 So, is there a definite, unique answer? 
 
 Does it matter whether I run IA64 or AMD64 in the above Dell 1850?

It matters very much.  AMD64 should work fine.  IA64 will will not work at all.



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Re: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-15 Thread Ross Cameron
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Len Conrad lcon...@go2france.com wrote:

 Does it matter whether I run IA64 or AMD64 in the above Dell 1850?


You wont even et IA64 booting as that is a compilation for Itanium
processors.

For the 64bit enabled Xeon processors Intel licensed the AMD64 instruction
set.
Therefor the correct distro to use on this machine would be AMD64 or
i386 if you have a need to run 32bit software.


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Re: FWD: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-15 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 03:13:49PM +0200, Len Conrad wrote:

 
 -- Original Message --
 From:  Len Conrad lcon...@go2france.com
 Reply-To:  lcon...@go2france.com
 Date:  Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:48:26 +0200
 
 the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows:
 
 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
   Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
   
 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
   Features2=0x659dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14
   AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM
   Logical CPUs per core: 2
 real memory  = 3220963328 (3071 MB)
 avail memory = 3150913536 (3004 MB)
 ACPI APIC Table: DELL   PE BKC  
 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
  cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
  cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
  cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  6
  cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  7
 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8
 ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9
 ioapic1: WARNING: intbase 32 != expected base 24
 ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 10
 ioapic2: WARNING: intbase 64 != expected base 56
 ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
 ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 32-55 on motherboard
 ioapic2 Version 2.0 irqs 64-87 on motherboard
 
 thanks,
 Len
 
 ==
 
 So, is there a definite, unique answer? 

Yes.

 
 Does it matter whether I run IA64 or AMD64 in the above Dell 1850?
 

Yes.
Run AMD64.   It is not an Itanium which is the IA64.  It is a I686
which is the long standing ...86 family which, in 64 bit is supported
on FreeBSD by AMD64.

jerry


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RE: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-15 Thread Sean Cavanaugh

 
 Does it matter whether I run IA64 or AMD64 in the above Dell 1850?
 
 Len
 


This is a case where I wish the architecture types were renamed to modern day 
nomenclature. Most people outside the *nix world know i386 as the x86 
architecture and AMD64 as either x86-64 or straight x64. IA64 is for Itanium 
architecture only and will not work on any x86 or derrived architecture.

 

-Sean
  
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is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-14 Thread Len Conrad
the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows:

CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
  
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  Features2=0x659dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14
  AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM
  Logical CPUs per core: 2
real memory  = 3220963328 (3071 MB)
avail memory = 3150913536 (3004 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: DELL   PE BKC  
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  6
 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  7
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8
ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9
ioapic1: WARNING: intbase 32 != expected base 24
ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 10
ioapic2: WARNING: intbase 64 != expected base 56
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 32-55 on motherboard
ioapic2 Version 2.0 irqs 64-87 on motherboard

thanks,
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Re: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-14 Thread jhell


No you want: IA64 not AMD64

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ia64/ISO-IMAGES/7.2/


On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:48, lconrad@ wrote:

the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows:

CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
 Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
 
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
 Features2=0x659dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14
 AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM
 Logical CPUs per core: 2
real memory  = 3220963328 (3071 MB)
avail memory = 3150913536 (3004 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: DELL   PE BKC  
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  6
cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  7
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8
ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9
ioapic1: WARNING: intbase 32 != expected base 24
ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 10
ioapic2: WARNING: intbase 64 != expected base 56
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 32-55 on motherboard
ioapic2 Version 2.0 irqs 64-87 on motherboard

thanks,
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Re: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-14 Thread Roland Smith
Yes.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:48:26PM +0200, Len Conrad wrote:
 the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows:
 
 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
   Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
   
 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
   Features2=0x659dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14

You should be looking at the following line. LM means Long Mode, meaning it can
run 64-bit instructions: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_mode];

   AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM

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Re: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-14 Thread Diego F. Arias R.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:08 PM, jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:


 No you want: IA64 not AMD64

 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ia64/ISO-IMAGES/7.2/



 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:48, lconrad@ wrote:

 the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows:

 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1

  
 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  Features2=0x659dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14
  AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM
  Logical CPUs per core: 2
 real memory  = 3220963328 (3071 MB)
 avail memory = 3150913536 (3004 MB)
 ACPI APIC Table: DELL   PE BKC  
 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  6
 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  7
 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8
 ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9
 ioapic1: WARNING: intbase 32 != expected base 24
 ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 10
 ioapic2: WARNING: intbase 64 != expected base 56
 ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
 ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 32-55 on motherboard
 ioapic2 Version 2.0 irqs 64-87 on motherboard

 thanks,
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Why ia64 if its a XEON?

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Re: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-14 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 05:08:23PM -0400, jhell wrote:
 
 No you want: IA64 not AMD64

No, he does not want that.  IA64 is for Intel's Itanium CPUs which are only
used in a few big servers and just about nowhere else.  The below is an
ordinary x86 CPU (which the Itanium most certainly is not.)

 
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ia64/ISO-IMAGES/7.2/
 
 
 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:48, lconrad@ wrote:
  the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows:
 
  CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
   Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
   
  Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
   Features2=0x659dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14
   AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM
   Logical CPUs per core: 2
  real memory  = 3220963328 (3071 MB)
  avail memory = 3150913536 (3004 MB)
  ACPI APIC Table: DELL   PE BKC  
  FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
  cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
  cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
  cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  6
  cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  7
  ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8
  ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9
  ioapic1: WARNING: intbase 32 != expected base 24
  ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 10
  ioapic2: WARNING: intbase 64 != expected base 56
  ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
  ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 32-55 on motherboard
  ioapic2 Version 2.0 irqs 64-87 on motherboard
 
  thanks,
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Re: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-14 Thread jhell


On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:10, rsmith@ wrote:

Yes.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:48:26PM +0200, Len Conrad wrote:

the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows:

CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
  
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  Features2=0x659dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14


You should be looking at the following line. LM means Long Mode, meaning it can
run 64-bit instructions: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_mode];


  AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM


Roland



My apologies to the original poster. I tend to usually mix up these two 
arch's for some reason or another. Thanks to the second poster for clearing 
that up.


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Re: is this Intel CPU ok for 7.2 AMD64?

2009-10-14 Thread LoH
Get cpuid from /usr/ports/misc/cpuid and run it, that should give you a 
better idea of what your processor is. Although, from the string you 
gave, looks like a 'yes'. I think that's a nocona xeon (I have a pair of 
gallatins).


jhell wrote:


On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:10, rsmith@ wrote:

Yes.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:48:26PM +0200, Len Conrad wrote:

the FreeBSD 6.2 i386 dmesg.boot shows:

CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.60GHz (3591.25-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
  
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE 


  Features2=0x659dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14


You should be looking at the following line. LM means Long Mode, 
meaning it can

run 64-bit instructions: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_mode];


  AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM


Roland



My apologies to the original poster. I tend to usually mix up these 
two arch's for some reason or another. Thanks to the second poster for 
clearing that up.


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ok, here is a more taional query involving NEW computers.

2009-05-16 Thread Gary Kline
i used google's search protocol to get around those of craiglist.org.
that gave me a series of new and used dual- and quad-core (*Intel*)
bozen for my new fbsd server and firewall.  and i spent hours scoping out
which is the fastest for the least cost.  i had zero idea how many dozen
of kinds of dual/quad chips there were.  after a day+ of reading, i'm
more savvy about that.

what i still don't know  is which company makes the more reliable box,
and i'd appreciate as much help as you can give me.  i realize that the
best manufacturer may sell a bad computer.  i'm factoring that in.
another thing i just found is that hp's high-end Kayak no longer seem to
be made.  i am in no was stuck to hewelit-packard.  (just that the hp's
that i am running right now are more than 11 years old.)

one of the most important machines will be my server.  the one that may
be slightly less critical runs pfSense.  if either computer fails, i've
lost contact with the rest of the world.  

any help will be much appreciated!

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Re: dump(8) ok, but restore(8) failes

2008-08-28 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, August 27, 2008 a las 01:00:18PM +0200, Matthias Apitz 
escribió:

 the DUMP itself seems to be ok because a restore like this works:
 
 $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'cat dumpsRebelion-20080825/usr.dmp.gz' | gzip -dc | 
 restore -xv -f - ./home/guru/myThings/Espanol/diario2008
 
 the problem seems to be -P related; will file a bug report;

This was a known issue: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=121502
I have CVS up to HEAD and applied the two patches mentioned in 121502
and the restore(8) is fine now;

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dump(8) ok, but restore(8) failes

2008-08-27 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

Some days ago I have done a dump of my /usr file system with:

# dump -0auL -P ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'gzip -c  dumpsRebelion/usr.dmp.gz'  
/usr

the DUMP ended fine with no errors; today I try to reload certain
directory with:

$ restore -xv -P ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'gzip -dc dumpsRebelion/usr.dmp.gz' 
./home/guru/myThings/Espanol/diario2008

and it says:

Verify tape and initialize maps
Tape block size is 16
Header with wrong dumpdate.
Dump   date: Mon Aug 25 09:56:58 2008
Dumped from: the epoch
Level 0 dump of /usr on rebelion.Sisis.de:/dev/ad4s1f
Label: none
Extract directories from tape
Initialize symbol table.
Make node ./home
Make node ./home/guru
Make node ./home/guru/myThings
Make node ./home/guru/myThings/Espanol
Make node ./home/guru/myThings/Espanol/diario2008
Make node ./home/guru/myThings/Espanol/diario2008/enanitos
Make node ./home/guru/myThings/Espanol/diario2008/imagenes
Make node ./home/guru/myThings/Espanol/diario2008/CVS
Extract requested files
You have not read any tapes yet.
If you are extracting just a few files, start with the last volume
and work towards the first; restore can quickly skip tapes that
have no further files to extract. Otherwise, begin with volume 1.
Specify next volume #: 1
partial block read: 16128 should be 16384
partial block read: 256 should be 16384
partial block read: 16128 should be 16384
unknown tape header type 6697331
abort? [yn] 

what does this mean? any hint? thanks in advance

matthias

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Re: dump(8) ok, but restore(8) failes

2008-08-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Some days ago I have done a dump of my /usr file system with:

# dump -0auL -P ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'gzip -c  dumpsRebelion/usr.dmp.gz'  
/usr


why not

dump -0auL -P /usr |gzip -cssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'cat  
dumpsRebelion/usr.dmp.gz'

?


the DUMP ended fine with no errors; today I try to reload certain
directory with:

$ restore -xv -P ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'gzip -dc dumpsRebelion/usr.dmp.gz' 
./home/guru/myThings/Espanol/diario2008


should't be

-xvf -

?

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Re: dump(8) ok, but restore(8) failes

2008-08-27 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, August 27, 2008 a las 11:10:53AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar 
escribió:

 Some days ago I have done a dump of my /usr file system with:
 
 # dump -0auL -P ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'gzip -c  dumpsRebelion/usr.dmp.gz' 
  
 /usr
 
 why not
 
 dump -0auL -P /usr |gzip -cssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'cat  
 dumpsRebelion/usr.dmp.gz'
 
 ?

without '-P' in this case, I think, and:

# dump -0auL /usr | gzip -c | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'cat 
dumpsRebelion/usr.dmp.gz'

should of course give more or less the same;

 
 the DUMP ended fine with no errors; today I try to reload certain
 directory with:
 
 $ restore -xv -P ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'gzip -dc dumpsRebelion/usr.dmp.gz' 
 ./home/guru/myThings/Espanol/diario2008
 
 should't be

but it does; reproduceable :-(

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Re: dump(8) ok, but restore(8) failes

2008-08-27 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, August 27, 2008 a las 11:20:22AM +0200, Matthias Apitz 
escribió:

 without '-P' in this case, I think, and:
 
 # dump -0auL /usr | gzip -c | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'cat 
 dumpsRebelion/usr.dmp.gz'
 
 should of course give more or less the same;
 
  
  the DUMP ended fine with no errors; today I try to reload certain
  directory with:
  
  $ restore -xv -P ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'gzip -dc 
  dumpsRebelion/usr.dmp.gz' 
  ./home/guru/myThings/Espanol/diario2008
  
  should't be
 
 but it does; reproduceable :-(

the DUMP itself seems to be ok because a restore like this works:

$ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'cat dumpsRebelion-20080825/usr.dmp.gz' | gzip -dc | 
restore -xv -f - ./home/guru/myThings/Espanol/diario2008

the problem seems to be -P related; will file a bug report;

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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-05-05 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On Monday 05 May 2008 02:10:34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ... very shortly after starting the actual install I got an error
 box:
 
 
  VISIO Setup
 
! Tried to create an invalid path using 'A:\' and 'clipart.vs_'
 
 
 and it locked up the display so that CtrlAltF1 would not switch
 to a text screen (although it did allow AltTab to bring up FVWM's
 window list).  After clicking OK:
 
 
  Visio Setup
 
i Setup failed.
 
 
 and it quit.

 What version of Visio is this?
 
 3.0.  Long before M$ took it over, so it should be just a generic
 Win32 app with no secret M$ tricks.

Visio 3.0 was still 16bit apparently. What you could try is to set
the Windows version in winecfg (bottom of applications tab) to
Windows 95 or even Windows 3.1.

 Also, you should really take this to the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailing list. The people there should know more about this than
 here on a FreeBSD mailing list.
 
 I suppose I can try it, but I wonder how much interest there will
 be on a wine list in supporting FreeBSD.  At a minimum I suppose
 they'll want to know if it still breaks on the latest wine version,
 and I'll have no way to find out since the FreeBSD port doesn't
 support the latest wine version.

It's just that they know more about debugging such problems and
figuring out if it's Wine or a FreeBSD problem.

The latest version is in ports by the way, wine 0.9.61.

 In any case, it seems FreeBSD should not be allowing a port -- any
 port -- to lock out CtrlAltF1.

Patches welcome...
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-05-04 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On Tuesday 29 April 2008 08:10:37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wine has its own simple version of Wordpad though.
 Just run wine wordpad.
 
 This version has its own notepad, but it doesn't appear to have
 wordpad.  (There's no wordpad.exe that I can find, but there
 are two identical copies of notepad.exe -- one in .../windows
 and the other in .../windows/system32.)

wine wordpad still works though. It's in /usr/local/lib/wine.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-05-04 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On Thursday 01 May 2008 08:00:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You have to mount the floppy and then link a: to the mount point.
 So if you mount it under /mnt you'd need this:

 mount -t msdosfs /dev/fd0 /mnt
 ln -s /mnt ~/.wine/dosdevices/a:
 
 That got only a little bit farther.  It did find the setup program,
 and the option dialogs seemed to work properly, but very shortly
 after starting the actual install I got an error box:
 
 
  VISIO Setup
 
! Tried to create an invalid path using 'A:\' and 'clipart.vs_'
 
 
 and it locked up the display so that CtrlAltF1 would not switch
 to a text screen (although it did allow AltTab to bring up FVWM's
 window list).  After clicking OK:
 
 
  Visio Setup
 
i Setup failed.
 
 
 and it quit.

Were there any messages printed in the terminal window?
What version of Visio is this?

You might also want to try on a Linux system if you have that
somewhere, just to see if it works there.

Also, you should really take this to the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailing list. The people there should know more about this than
here on a FreeBSD mailing list.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-05-04 Thread perryh
  ... very shortly after starting the actual install I got an error
  box:
  
  
   VISIO Setup
  
 ! Tried to create an invalid path using 'A:\' and 'clipart.vs_'
  
  
  and it locked up the display so that CtrlAltF1 would not switch
  to a text screen (although it did allow AltTab to bring up FVWM's
  window list).  After clicking OK:
  
  
   Visio Setup
  
 i Setup failed.
  
  
  and it quit.

 Were there any messages printed in the terminal window?

No.

 What version of Visio is this?

3.0.  Long before M$ took it over, so it should be just a generic
Win32 app with no secret M$ tricks.

 You might also want to try on a Linux system if you have that
 somewhere, just to see if it works there.

If I had a Linux system set up, I'd have tried this there in the
first place.

 Also, you should really take this to the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailing list. The people there should know more about this than
 here on a FreeBSD mailing list.

I suppose I can try it, but I wonder how much interest there will
be on a wine list in supporting FreeBSD.  At a minimum I suppose
they'll want to know if it still breaks on the latest wine version,
and I'll have no way to find out since the FreeBSD port doesn't
support the latest wine version.

In any case, it seems FreeBSD should not be allowing a port -- any
port -- to lock out CtrlAltF1.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-05-04 Thread perryh
  Wine has its own simple version of Wordpad though.
  Just run wine wordpad.
  
  This version has its own notepad, but it doesn't appear to have
  wordpad.  (There's no wordpad.exe that I can find, but there
  are two identical copies of notepad.exe -- one in .../windows
  and the other in .../windows/system32.)

 wine wordpad still works though. It's in /usr/local/lib/wine.

Along with yet another notepad, this one twice the size of the ones
in .../windows and .../windows/system32!  The obvious followup is
which one actually gets used if someone runs wine notepad, but
I doubt it's worth looking into.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-05-01 Thread perryh
 You have to mount the floppy and then link a: to the mount point.
 So if you mount it under /mnt you'd need this:

 mount -t msdosfs /dev/fd0 /mnt
 ln -s /mnt ~/.wine/dosdevices/a:

That got only a little bit farther.  It did find the setup program,
and the option dialogs seemed to work properly, but very shortly
after starting the actual install I got an error box:


 VISIO Setup

   ! Tried to create an invalid path using 'A:\' and 'clipart.vs_'


and it locked up the display so that CtrlAltF1 would not switch
to a text screen (although it did allow AltTab to bring up FVWM's
window list).  After clicking OK:


 Visio Setup

   i Setup failed.


and it quit.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-29 Thread perryh
 Wine has its own simple version of Wordpad though.
 Just run wine wordpad.

This version has its own notepad, but it doesn't appear to have
wordpad.  (There's no wordpad.exe that I can find, but there
are two identical copies of notepad.exe -- one in .../windows
and the other in .../windows/system32.)

 I'm not entirely sure, but I think the :: link is only used for
 raw access to devices. Wine doesn't mount disks on its own.

For floppies, which AFAIK are always formatted as FAT, I'd settle
for having it use mtools so the disk wouldn't need to be mounted
at all :)
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-28 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On Saturday 26 April 2008 10:02:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's really easier to try to install an app under Wine...
 
 With, it seems, at least two exceptions:
 
 * Some apps -- such as Wordpad and Write -- are packaged and
   installed with Windows, rather than on separate media.  Are
   there instructions somewhere for installing such an app
   under wine?  I'm certainly not finding it at all obvious.

Such apps you can only try to copy over to Wine. Wine has its
own simple version of Wordpad though. Just run wine wordpad.

 * Some add-on (separately installable) apps are packaged
   on multiple diskettes (or multiple CDs for that matter). 
   Pre-mounting the first, and pointing wine at the mount
   point, seems likely to result in getting stuck partway
   through the install when it asks for the second disk.
 
 The version of Visio that I have is in the second category.

You should ask about this on the wine-users mailing list. It should
be possible to unmount the disk when it asks for the next one. If
you can't then that's a bug.

 The manpage describes a way of pointing wine to a device
 rather than to a mounted filesystem:
 
   The Unix device corresponding to a DOS drive can be
   specified the same way, except with '::' instead of
   ':'. So for the previous example, if the CDROM device
   is mounted from /dev/hdc, the corresponding symlink
   would be $WINEPREFIX/dosdevices/d:: - /dev/hdc.
 
 but, as reported elsewhere, wine could not find setup.exe
 on the Visio install diskette with dosdevices set up this
 way.

I'm not entirely sure, but I think the :: link is only used for
raw access to devices. Wine doesn't mount disks on its own.

 ... You also might want to have a look at
 http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks for a script
 that can install and setup various packages ...
 
 Unfortunately, I can't find Visio in its list of packages.

Yes, it's only for extra packages (libs, fonts,..) like mfc42.dll
and such. It's just that installing DLLs via winetricks might be
easier than trying to figure out what DLLs to copy from a Windows
install.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-26 Thread perryh
 It's really easier to try to install an app under Wine ...

With, it seems, at least two exceptions:

* Some apps -- such as Wordpad and Write -- are packaged and
  installed with Windows, rather than on separate media.  Are
  there instructions somewhere for installing such an app
  under wine?  I'm certainly not finding it at all obvious.

* Some add-on (separately installable) apps are packaged
  on multiple diskettes (or multiple CDs for that matter). 
  Pre-mounting the first, and pointing wine at the mount
  point, seems likely to result in getting stuck partway
  through the install when it asks for the second disk.

The version of Visio that I have is in the second category.

The manpage describes a way of pointing wine to a device
rather than to a mounted filesystem:

  The Unix device corresponding to a DOS drive can be
  specified the same way, except with '::' instead of
  ':'. So for the previous example, if the CDROM device
  is mounted from /dev/hdc, the corresponding symlink
  would be $WINEPREFIX/dosdevices/d:: - /dev/hdc.

but, as reported elsewhere, wine could not find setup.exe
on the Visio install diskette with dosdevices set up this
way.

 ... You also might want to have a look at
 http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks for a script
 that can install and setup various packages ...

Unfortunately, I can't find Visio in its list of packages.

Is there something else to try, or is installing an app like
Visio beyond Wine's current capabilities?
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-23 Thread perryh
 If I were you I'd just try to install Visio under Wine and see how
 it goes. That is, mount the install cd, check with winecfg that
 Wine can see the mount point as a drive D: or something and then
 run wine d:\\setup.exe ...

It did not work at all.  This version of Visio is old enough that
it installs from floppies, rather than from CD :) and I've set it
up in .wine/dosdevices according to the manpage:

  $ ls -la .wine/dosdevices
  total 4
  drwxr-xr-x  2 perryh  staff  512 Apr 21 00:17 .
  drwxr-xr-x  4 perryh  staff  512 Apr 22 21:07 ..
  lrwxr-xr-x  1 perryh  staff8 Apr 21 00:17 a:: - /dev/fd0
  lrwxr-xr-x  1 perryh  staff   10 Apr 19 16:39 c: - ../drive_c
  lrwxr-xr-x  1 perryh  staff1 Apr 19 16:39 z: - /

mdir can read the disk, and it does contain a setup.exe, but
wine can't see it:

  $ wine a:setup.exe
  wine: cannot find 'a:setup.exe'
  $ wine 'a:\setup.exe'
  wine: cannot find 'a:\setup.exe'

There doesn't seem to be a manpage for winecfg:

  $ man winecfg
  No manual entry for winecfg

and when I tried to run it it was not at all obvious what to do.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-23 Thread Robert Huff

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

$ ls -la .wine/dosdevices
total 4
drwxr-xr-x  2 perryh  staff  512 Apr 21 00:17 .
drwxr-xr-x  4 perryh  staff  512 Apr 22 21:07 ..
lrwxr-xr-x  1 perryh  staff8 Apr 21 00:17 a:: - /dev/fd0

Is the second colon intentional


Robert Huff

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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-23 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On Wednesday 23 April 2008 08:11:38 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If I were you I'd just try to install Visio under Wine and see how
 it goes. That is, mount the install cd, check with winecfg that
 Wine can see the mount point as a drive D: or something and then
 run wine d:\\setup.exe ...
 
 It did not work at all.  This version of Visio is old enough that
 it installs from floppies, rather than from CD :) and I've set it
 up in .wine/dosdevices according to the manpage:
 
   $ ls -la .wine/dosdevices
   total 4
   drwxr-xr-x  2 perryh  staff  512 Apr 21 00:17 .
   drwxr-xr-x  4 perryh  staff  512 Apr 22 21:07 ..
   lrwxr-xr-x  1 perryh  staff8 Apr 21 00:17 a:: - /dev/fd0
   lrwxr-xr-x  1 perryh  staff   10 Apr 19 16:39 c: - ../drive_c
   lrwxr-xr-x  1 perryh  staff1 Apr 19 16:39 z: - /

You have to mount the floppy and then link a: to the mount point.
So if you mount it under /mnt you'd need this:

mount -t msdosfs /dev/fd0 /mnt
ln -s /mnt ~/.wine/dosdevices/a:

 There doesn't seem to be a manpage for winecfg:
 
   $ man winecfg
   No manual entry for winecfg
 
 and when I tried to run it it was not at all obvious what to do.

Under the drives tab you can setup drive letters to point to (unix)
directories, like for instance the mount point of a cdrom or floppy
disk or your home directory.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-23 Thread perryh
 $ ls -la .wine/dosdevices
 total 4
 drwxr-xr-x  2 perryh  staff  512 Apr 21 00:17 .
 drwxr-xr-x  4 perryh  staff  512 Apr 22 21:07 ..
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 perryh  staff8 Apr 21 00:17 a:: - /dev/fd0

   Is the second colon intentional

Yes!  That is exactly what the manpage says to do, so as to have
wine use a *device* rather than a node in the Unix filesystem:

  $WINEPREFIX/dosdevices
Directory  containing the DOS device mappings. Each file in that
directory is a symlink to the Unix device  file  implementing  a
given  device.  For  instance,  if  COM1 is mapped to /dev/ttyS0
you'd have a symlink of the form $WINEPREFIX/dosdevices/com1  -
/dev/ttyS0.
DOS  drives  are  also  specified with symlinks; for instance if
drive D: corresponds to the CDROM mounted at  /mnt/cdrom,  you'd
have a symlink $WINEPREFIX/dosdevices/d: - /mnt/cdrom. The Unix
  device corresponding to a DOS drive can be  specified  the  same
  way,  except with '::' instead of ':'. So for the previous exam-
  ple, if the CDROM device is mounted from  /dev/hdc,  the  corre-
  sponding   symlink   would   be   $WINEPREFIX/dosdevices/d::  -
  /dev/hdc.

Presumably this method is provided so that wine can be given access
to a removable device without a particular disk having to be mounted.
It would be, at the least, inconvenient to have to mount and unmount
a sequence of 5 floppies to do this installation.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-22 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On Tuesday 22 April 2008 06:00:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ... If you want to run applications under Wine either install
 them under Wine or (with simple applications) copy them over
 from a Windows install into ~/.wine/drive_c.

 And specifically I'd populate  ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts
 from a real windows installation.
 
 Which raises the question:  how does one figure out what-all
 pieces of a real windows installation should and should not be
 copied (or symlinked) into ~/.wine/drive_c?  So far it looks
 as if some (but surely not all) .exe's and .dll's, and (all?)
 fonts, should be imported.

And then you're forgetting all the bits in the register.
It's really easier to try to install an app under Wine and then
when you run it, see if there are any missing dlls or missing
functionality in Wine built-in dlls (err and fixme messages).
Then you can copy those from Windows. You also might want to
have a look at http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks for a script
that can install and setup various packages, also fonts.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-21 Thread RW
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:59:35 +0200
Tijl Coosemans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wine is not meant to work that way. You should see Wine as a separate
 Windows. If you want to run applications under Wine either install
 them under Wine or (with simple applications) copy them over from a
 Windows install into ~/.wine/drive_c.
 

And specifically I'd populate  ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts from a
real windows installation. 
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-21 Thread perryh
  ... If you want to run applications under Wine either install
  them under Wine or (with simple applications) copy them over
  from a Windows install into ~/.wine/drive_c.

 And specifically I'd populate  ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts
 from a real windows installation. 

Which raises the question:  how does one figure out what-all
pieces of a real windows installation should and should not be
copied (or symlinked) into ~/.wine/drive_c?  So far it looks
as if some (but surely not all) .exe's and .dll's, and (all?)
fonts, should be imported.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-20 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On Sunday 20 April 2008 03:35:59 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have installed wine-0.9.20 from ports, and
  there's a Win98 FAT32 slice mounted on /windoze

  deletia
   
  How do I fix this?

 I would start by upgrading and re-installing wine.  You have 0.9.20;
 the current version is 0.9.55 and I believe there have been
 substantial improvements.
 
 When I updated my ports, the newer wine refused to install on 6.1,
 saying it wouldn't work properly on anything prior to 6.3 IIRC.
 
 Rather than risk breaking my primary system in an upgrade attempt, I
 installed 7.0-RELEASE and wine-0.9.48 (the version from the
 7.0-RELEASE ports) on a different machine.  It happened to have XP,
 so I'm now trying to run XP .exe's instead of win98 .exe's.
 
 Notepad and Write are, if anything, worse than before:  now, if I
 just start typing without selecting a font, I get something that
 looks more or less like dingbats.  They do seem to work if I
 explicitly select Courier.  (The ultimate goal is to run Visio, not
 to do word processing, but I'm trying to start with something
 simple.)
 
 The problem with wordpad has not changed very much:
 
   $ wine /winxp/Program Files/Windows NT/Accessories/wordpad.exe
   err:module:import_dll Library MFC42u.DLL (which is needed by 
 LZ:\\winxp\\Program Files\\Windows NT\\Accessories\\wordpad.exe) not found
   err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for 
 LZ:\\winxp\\Program Files\\Windows NT\\Accessories\\wordpad.exe failed, 
 status c135

Wine is not meant to work that way. You should see Wine as a separate
Windows. If you want to run applications under Wine either install them
under Wine or (with simple applications) copy them over from a Windows
install into ~/.wine/drive_c.

 OK, it doesn't know where to find the DLLs.  Try making a symlink to
 a place which (per the manpage) is always searched:
 
   $ ls -l /winxp/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/mfc42u.dll
   -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  995384 Aug 23  2001 
 /winxp/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/mfc42u.dll
   $ ln -s /winxp/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/mfc42u.dll /usr/local/lib/wine
   $ wine /winxp/Program Files/Windows NT/Accessories/wordpad.exe
   err:module:import_dll Library MFC42u.DLL (which is needed by 
 LZ:\\winxp\\Program Files\\Windows NT\\Accessories\\wordpad.exe) not found
   err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for 
 LZ:\\winxp\\Program Files\\Windows NT\\Accessories\\wordpad.exe failed, 
 status c135

/usr/local/lib/wine is only for Wine built-in DLLs I think. You could
try putting the symlink or copying the DLL into
~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32, but again it is not recommended to
run applications directly from an existing Windows install.

If I were you I'd just try to install Visio under Wine and see how it
goes. That is, mount the install cd, check with winecfg that Wine can
see the mount point as a drive D: or something and then run wine
d:\\setup.exe. On appdb.winehq.org there's probably more information
to get Visio working.
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Re: wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-04-19 Thread perryh
   I have installed wine-0.9.20 from ports, and
   there's a Win98 FAT32 slice mounted on /windoze

   deletia
   
   How do I fix this?

   I would start by upgrading and re-installing wine.  You have
 0.9.20; the current version is 0.9.55 and I believe there have been
 substantial improvements.

When I updated my ports, the newer wine refused to install on 6.1,
saying it wouldn't work properly on anything prior to 6.3 IIRC.

Rather than risk breaking my primary system in an upgrade attempt,
I installed 7.0-RELEASE and wine-0.9.48 (the version from the
7.0-RELEASE ports) on a different machine.  It happened to have XP,
so I'm now trying to run XP .exe's instead of win98 .exe's.

Notepad and Write are, if anything, worse than before:  now, if
I just start typing without selecting a font, I get something
that looks more or less like dingbats.  They do seem to work if
I explicitly select Courier.  (The ultimate goal is to run Visio,
not to do word processing, but I'm trying to start with something
simple.)

The problem with wordpad has not changed very much:

  $ wine /winxp/Program Files/Windows NT/Accessories/wordpad.exe
  err:module:import_dll Library MFC42u.DLL (which is needed by 
LZ:\\winxp\\Program Files\\Windows NT\\Accessories\\wordpad.exe) not found
  err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for 
LZ:\\winxp\\Program Files\\Windows NT\\Accessories\\wordpad.exe failed, 
status c135

(Previously it was looking for MFC42.DLL instead of MFC42u.DLL.)

OK, it doesn't know where to find the DLLs.  Try making a symlink
to a place which (per the manpage) is always searched:

  $ ls -l /winxp/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/mfc42u.dll
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  995384 Aug 23  2001 
/winxp/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/mfc42u.dll
  $ ln -s /winxp/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/mfc42u.dll /usr/local/lib/wine
  $ wine /winxp/Program Files/Windows NT/Accessories/wordpad.exe
  err:module:import_dll Library MFC42u.DLL (which is needed by 
LZ:\\winxp\\Program Files\\Windows NT\\Accessories\\wordpad.exe) not found
  err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for 
LZ:\\winxp\\Program Files\\Windows NT\\Accessories\\wordpad.exe failed, 
status c135

Maybe the search is case-sensitive (although Windows ordinarily
isn't)?

  $ ln -s /winxp/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/mfc42u.dll /usr/local/lib/wine/MFC42u.DLL
  $ wine /winxp/Program Files/Windows NT/Accessories/wordpad.exe
  err:module:import_dll Library MFC42u.DLL (which is needed by 
LZ:\\winxp\\Program Files\\Windows NT\\Accessories\\wordpad.exe) not found
  err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for 
LZ:\\winxp\\Program Files\\Windows NT\\Accessories\\wordpad.exe failed, 
status c135

The symlinks in /usr/local/lib/wine *do* point to that DLL, and they
*can* be followed successfully:

  $ ( cd /usr/local/lib/wine ; ls -lL mfc* MFC* )
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  995384 Aug 23  2001 MFC42u.DLL
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  995384 Aug 23  2001 mfc42u.dll

Now what?  I can't imagine anyone would be able to do much with wine
if problems finding DLLs were common.  What am I doing wrong?

  $ wine --version
  wine-0.9.48
  $ uname -a
  FreeBSD fbsd70.uucp 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 
UTC 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
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wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-02-19 Thread Robert Huff

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I have installed wine-0.9.20 from ports, and
  there's a Win98 FAT32 slice mounted on /windoze

deletia
  
  How do I fix this?

I would start by upgrading and re-installing wine.  You have
0.9.20; the current version is 0.9.55 and I believe there have been
substantial improvements.


Robert Huff
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wine: notepad OK, others not

2008-02-18 Thread perryh
I have installed wine-0.9.20 from ports, and
there's a Win98 FAT32 slice mounted on /windoze

  % grep -w windoze /etc/fstab
  /dev/ad0s1/windozemsdosfsro00

If I run Notepad, like this, it seems to work

  % wine /windoze/WIN98/NOTEPAD.EXE

but if I then try to run Write:

  % wine /windoze/WIN98/WRITE.EXE

the window title bar says Wordpad and several
capabilities (like Save) don't work.

Meanwhile the *real* Wordpad doesn't even start:

  % wine /windoze/PROGRA~1/ACCESS~1/WORDPAD.EXE
  err:module:import_dll Library MFC42.DLL (which is needed by 
LZ:\\windoze\\PROGRA~1\\ACCESS~1\\WORDPAD.EXE) not found
  err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for 
LZ:\\windoze\\PROGRA~1\\ACCESS~1\\WORDPAD.EXE failed, status c135

but MFC42.DLL does exist, in what I think is the usual place:

  % find /windoze -name MFC42.DLL -ls
  3536377 1948 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 995383 Apr 23 1999 
/windoze/WIN98/SYSTEM/MFC42.DLL

How do I fix this?
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ok... what did i miss?

2007-11-04 Thread Jonathan Horne
all my 6.2 computers say the correct time, but my 7.0 BETA-2 says an hour 
ahead (as in, it didnt make the DST change last night on its own).  same 
timezone is selected on all computers.

did i miss some setting to obey DST changes or something?

thanks,
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Re: ok... what did i miss?

2007-11-04 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
Jonathan Horne wrote:
 all my 6.2 computers say the correct time, but my 7.0 BETA-2 says an hour 
 ahead (as in, it didnt make the DST change last night on its own).  same 
 timezone is selected on all computers.

 did i miss some setting to obey DST changes or something?
No mine are even wacker (i.e. it is 11:12 est but I get the following
out of date:
06:13:08 EST 2007 but 11:12 out of the gnome clock)

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Re: ok... what did i miss?

2007-11-04 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
oops on my previous post I ment it is 10:14 est not 11:14
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Re: ok... what did i miss?

2007-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

On Nov 4, 2007, at 10:09 AM, Jonathan Horne wrote:

all my 6.2 computers say the correct time, but my 7.0 BETA-2 says an  
hour

ahead (as in, it didnt make the DST change last night on its own).


My 7.0 BETA1 machine switched to winter time just fine.

-j


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Re: ok... what did i miss?

2007-11-04 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Sunday 04 November 2007 05:13:45 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
 Jonathan Horne wrote:
  all my 6.2 computers say the correct time, but my 7.0 BETA-2 says an hour
  ahead (as in, it didnt make the DST change last night on its own).  same
  timezone is selected on all computers.
 
  did i miss some setting to obey DST changes or something?

 No mine are even wacker (i.e. it is 11:12 est but I get the following
 out of date:
 06:13:08 EST 2007 but 11:12 out of the gnome clock)


welll i figured mine out at least.  ntpd wasnt running, so it was 
showing whatever time my bios is saying.

:)  i love it when i overlook the simplest thing! hehe

cheers,
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Re: ok... what did i miss?

2007-11-04 Thread icantthinkofone

Jonathan Horne wrote:
all my 6.2 computers say the correct time, but my 7.0 BETA-2 says an hour 
ahead (as in, it didnt make the DST change last night on its own).  same 
timezone is selected on all computers.


did i miss some setting to obey DST changes or something?

thanks,
  
I have the correct time but it says CST for Central Standard.  Why 
doesn't it say CDST?

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Re: ok... what did i miss?

2007-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

On Nov 4, 2007, at 4:02 PM, icantthinkofone wrote:

I have the correct time but it says CST for Central Standard.  Why  
doesn't it say CDST?


Standard time is what we have in the winter.  Daylight Savings time is  
what we have in the summer.  I know this is counter-intuitive since we  
are on Dayling Savings Time for longer than we are on Standard time.   
But when the whole thing was introduced, it was the summer time that  
got shifted.


The above comments are regarding the US.  You mentioned Central Time  
so that would be appropriate.


Many other places add an S for Summer into zone designation, while  
the US puts an S for Standard for the winter time.


-j

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RAID 1 with Adaptec SATA 1210SA + FreeBSD 5.4 + ata mkIII OK

2007-10-15 Thread Lukasz PUZON Brodowski

Hello - is this path work with freebsd 6.2 too?

Thanks
Lukas
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Re: Is your Thunderbird OK?

2007-09-27 Thread Christian Baer
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:00:10 +0900 Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:

 If you can live without the pretty pictures, you can configure Mutt to use
 an external browser like lynx or links to display HTML.
 
 Otherwise, you could give Claws a closer look.
 ^
 After I read your replying mail, I investigated the Claws. I am
 considering for moving from this Evolution to the Claws.

Evolution is quite a bit more than Claws, as it is supposed to be a clone
of Outlook (IIRC). But Cleaws is pretty sexy, because is small and quite
fast.

 But still Thunderbird will remain as the best MUA to me.

Not to me. Thunderbird is also a newsclient and in that capacity there are
several things missing. If you've ever used something like slrn, you'll
miss the scorefile like hell. Thunderbird also has one of the main
weaknesses of any GUI program: It's slow. If you get up to 60 eMails each
day which you not only have to read but also answer, you'll be happy to
have a mail- and news-client that lets you keep your handy on the keyboard
instead of making one had jump between the keyboard and the mouse all the
time.

Since I moved to Unix (it was Linux back then), I have always used
textbased mail- and news-clients. I started off with elm and tin. Unlike
many others, I didn't really have a problem moving on to Mutt. Today I
prefer slrn over tin, but at university I still use tin. Both are fast and
easy to use. I just like the split screen while reading, because then I
can see the thread as well as the current article at the same time.

 Thank you so much!

No problem. Always here to help. :-)

Regards
Chris
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Re: Is your Thunderbird OK?

2007-09-26 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 17:47 +0200, Christian Baer wrote:
 On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:41:53 +0900 Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
 
  Yeah I also like text based MUAs such as mutt or pine. Sometimes I get
  HTML messages from my co-workers who use webmail. I must read those HTML
  messages for my work, study. That's why I need windows-like MUAs, not
  text based MUAs. Is there any other best MUA? I _really_ feel thirsty
  for best MUA.. anytime..
 
 If you can live without the pretty pictures, you can configure Mutt to use
 an external browser like lynx or links to display HTML.
 
 Otherwise, you could give Claws a closer look.
^
After I read your replying mail, I investigated the Claws. I am
considering for moving from this Evolution to the Claws.

But still Thunderbird will remain as the best MUA to me.

Thank you so much!

Byung-Hee

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Re: Is your Thunderbird OK?

2007-09-26 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 17:47 +0200, Christian Baer wrote:
 On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:41:53 +0900 Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
 
  Yeah I also like text based MUAs such as mutt or pine. Sometimes I get
  HTML messages from my co-workers who use webmail. I must read those HTML
  messages for my work, study. That's why I need windows-like MUAs, not
  text based MUAs. Is there any other best MUA? I _really_ feel thirsty
  for best MUA.. anytime..
 
 If you can live without the pretty pictures, you can configure Mutt to use
 an external browser like lynx or links to display HTML.
 
 Otherwise, you could give Claws a closer look.
^
After I read your replying mail, I investigated the Claws. I am
considering for moving from this Evolution to the Claws.

But still Thunderbird will remain as the best MUA to me.

Thank you so much!

Byung-Hee
   


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Re: Is your Thunderbird OK?

2007-09-25 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 14:34 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 
  Just been wondering about this for long weeks. I have some complain
  Thudnerbird's the speed when it start up on FreeBSD. Its speed is very
  slow. While thunderbird start up, I go to brew coffee. Aside from that,
  Thunderbird is the best MUA, indeed.
 i use pine. others use mutt, elm etc. no need to use windows like thing
Yeah I also like text based MUAs such as mutt or pine. Sometimes I get
HTML messages from my co-workers who use webmail. I must read those HTML
messages for my work, study. That's why I need windows-like MUAs, not
text based MUAs. Is there any other best MUA? I _really_ feel thirsty
for best MUA.. anytime..

Byung-Hee

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Re: Is your Thunderbird OK?

2007-09-25 Thread Christian Baer
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:41:53 +0900 Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:

 Yeah I also like text based MUAs such as mutt or pine. Sometimes I get
 HTML messages from my co-workers who use webmail. I must read those HTML
 messages for my work, study. That's why I need windows-like MUAs, not
 text based MUAs. Is there any other best MUA? I _really_ feel thirsty
 for best MUA.. anytime..

If you can live without the pretty pictures, you can configure Mutt to use
an external browser like lynx or links to display HTML.

Otherwise, you could give Claws a closer look.

Regards
Chris
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Is your Thunderbird OK?

2007-09-24 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Hi there,

Just been wondering about this for long weeks. I have some complain
Thudnerbird's the speed when it start up on FreeBSD. Its speed is very
slow. While thunderbird start up, I go to brew coffee. Aside from that,
Thunderbird is the best MUA, indeed.

FYI, this is my information:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uname -v
FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p7 #1: Wed Aug 22 08:47:36 KST 2007 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ pkg_info | grep thunderbird
thunderbird-1.5.0.7_1 Mozilla Thunderbird is standalone mail [...]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ 

I _really_ want to share opinions about this topic (Thunderbird's start
up speed) with you FreeBSD users.

What do you think of?

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Re: Is your Thunderbird OK?

2007-09-24 Thread Jay Chandler

Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:

I _really_ want to share opinions about this topic (Thunderbird's start
up speed) with you FreeBSD users.

What do you think of?

  
I use Thunderbird on my FreeBSD box without issue.  FYI, 2.0.0.6 is the 
latest, and I have no issue with its load times.

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Re: Is your Thunderbird OK?

2007-09-24 Thread Bahman M.

Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:

Just been wondering about this for long weeks. I have some complain
Thudnerbird's the speed when it start up on FreeBSD. Its speed is very
slow. While thunderbird start up, I go to brew coffee. Aside from that,
Thunderbird is the best MUA, indeed.

FYI, this is my information:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uname -v
FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p7 #1: Wed Aug 22 08:47:36 KST 2007 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ pkg_info | grep thunderbird

thunderbird-1.5.0.7_1 Mozilla Thunderbird is standalone mail [...]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ 


I _really_ want to share opinions about this topic (Thunderbird's start
up speed) with you FreeBSD users.

What do you think of?


Does the problem occur only at startup?  What's the size of 
Thunderbird's image in memory?  I'd read somewhere that to speed up 
things, Thunderbird keeps emails in memory; however I'm not sure if it 
applies to 1.5.0.


Bahman
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Re: Is your Thunderbird OK?

2007-09-24 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 11:41 +0330, Bahman M. wrote:
 Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
  Just been wondering about this for long weeks. I have some complain
  Thudnerbird's the speed when it start up on FreeBSD. Its speed is very
  slow. While thunderbird start up, I go to brew coffee. Aside from that,
  Thunderbird is the best MUA, indeed.
  
  FYI, this is my information:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uname -v
  FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p7 #1: Wed Aug 22 08:47:36 KST 2007 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ pkg_info | grep thunderbird
  thunderbird-1.5.0.7_1 Mozilla Thunderbird is standalone mail [...]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ 
  
  I _really_ want to share opinions about this topic (Thunderbird's start
  up speed) with you FreeBSD users.
  
  What do you think of?
 
 Does the problem occur only at startup?  What's the size of 
 Thunderbird's image in memory?  I'd read somewhere that to speed up 
 things, Thunderbird keeps emails in memory; however I'm not sure if it 
 applies to 1.5.0.
 
I just use default setting, so I don't know my Thunderbird's memory in
detail. However, I took a top(1)'s screenshot while thunderbird is
active. Here is the screenshot:

http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/stuff/20070924-tb-ss.png [image/png 223k]


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Re: Is your Thunderbird OK?

2007-09-24 Thread cpghost
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:19:49 +0900
Byung-Hee HWANG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi there,
 
 Just been wondering about this for long weeks. I have some complain
 Thudnerbird's the speed when it start up on FreeBSD. Its speed is very
 slow. While thunderbird start up, I go to brew coffee. Aside from
 that, Thunderbird is the best MUA, indeed.

Thunderbird runs just fine here, but I've switched to
claws-mail a while ago because I'm running on very slow
hardware (500 MHz VIA C3/Eden), where Thunderbird really
crawls at a snail's pace (Firefox too, of course). Yet
even then, it doesn't take proportionally very long to
start up.

Thunderbird (and Firefox) are just big resource hogs, that's
all. If you experience VERY long start up times, you have
another problem. I once had startup issues on a diskless setup,
and it turned out to be a weird problem involving gconf2,
threading and lockd. It went away after I disabled NFS again
and used real disk storage.

-cpghost.

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Re: Is your Thunderbird OK?

2007-09-24 Thread Frank Shute
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 07:24:34PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:

 On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 11:41 +0330, Bahman M. wrote:
  Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
   Just been wondering about this for long weeks. I have some complain
   Thudnerbird's the speed when it start up on FreeBSD. Its speed is very
   slow. While thunderbird start up, I go to brew coffee. Aside from that,
   Thunderbird is the best MUA, indeed.
   
   FYI, this is my information:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uname -v
   FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p7 #1: Wed Aug 22 08:47:36 KST 2007 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ pkg_info | grep thunderbird
   thunderbird-1.5.0.7_1 Mozilla Thunderbird is standalone mail [...]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ 
   
   I _really_ want to share opinions about this topic (Thunderbird's start
   up speed) with you FreeBSD users.
   
   What do you think of?
  
  Does the problem occur only at startup?  What's the size of 
  Thunderbird's image in memory?  I'd read somewhere that to speed up 
  things, Thunderbird keeps emails in memory; however I'm not sure if it 
  applies to 1.5.0.
  
 I just use default setting, so I don't know my Thunderbird's memory in
 detail. However, I took a top(1)'s screenshot while thunderbird is
 active. Here is the screenshot:
 
 http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/stuff/20070924-tb-ss.png [image/png 223k]
 

Your machine needs more memory. Thunderbird will be hitting swap on
start up, which is why it's slow.

If you can't add more memory for some reason, then you'll have to run
lighter weight programs.

Even just doubling your memory to 512MB would be an improvement but
I'd recommend 1GB. I have 3GB and my machine never hits swap.

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Re: Is your Thunderbird OK?

2007-09-24 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 12:45 +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 07:24:34PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 11:41 +0330, Bahman M. wrote:
   Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
Just been wondering about this for long weeks. I have some complain
Thudnerbird's the speed when it start up on FreeBSD. Its speed is very
slow. While thunderbird start up, I go to brew coffee. Aside from that,
Thunderbird is the best MUA, indeed.

FYI, this is my information:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uname -v
FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p7 #1: Wed Aug 22 08:47:36 KST 2007 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ pkg_info | grep thunderbird
thunderbird-1.5.0.7_1 Mozilla Thunderbird is standalone mail [...]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ 

I _really_ want to share opinions about this topic (Thunderbird's start
up speed) with you FreeBSD users.

What do you think of?
   
   Does the problem occur only at startup?  What's the size of 
   Thunderbird's image in memory?  I'd read somewhere that to speed up 
   things, Thunderbird keeps emails in memory; however I'm not sure if it 
   applies to 1.5.0.
   
  I just use default setting, so I don't know my Thunderbird's memory in
  detail. However, I took a top(1)'s screenshot while thunderbird is
  active. Here is the screenshot:
  
  http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/stuff/20070924-tb-ss.png [image/png 223k]
  
 
 Your machine needs more memory. Thunderbird will be hitting swap on
 start up, which is why it's slow.
 
 If you can't add more memory for some reason, then you'll have to run
 lighter weight programs.
 
 Even just doubling your memory to 512MB would be an improvement but
 I'd recommend 1GB. I have 3GB and my machine never hits swap.
 
I agree, thanks a lot!

Byung-Hee

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Re: Is your Thunderbird OK?

2007-09-24 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 13:44 +0200, cpghost wrote:
 On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:19:49 +0900
 Byung-Hee HWANG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi there,
  
  Just been wondering about this for long weeks. I have some complain
  Thudnerbird's the speed when it start up on FreeBSD. Its speed is very
  slow. While thunderbird start up, I go to brew coffee. Aside from
  that, Thunderbird is the best MUA, indeed.
 
 Thunderbird runs just fine here, but I've switched to
 claws-mail a while ago because I'm running on very slow
 hardware (500 MHz VIA C3/Eden), where Thunderbird really
 crawls at a snail's pace (Firefox too, of course). Yet
 even then, it doesn't take proportionally very long to
 start up.
 
 Thunderbird (and Firefox) are just big resource hogs, that's
 all. If you experience VERY long start up times, you have
 another problem. I once had startup issues on a diskless setup,
 and it turned out to be a weird problem involving gconf2,
 threading and lockd. It went away after I disabled NFS again
 and used real disk storage.

Well, I cannot understand your advice because I'm newbie about Unix-like
system. Actually I want to use the claws-mail someday. 

Thanks anyway!

Byung-Hee

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Re: Is your Thunderbird OK?

2007-09-24 Thread Wojciech Puchar


Just been wondering about this for long weeks. I have some complain
Thudnerbird's the speed when it start up on FreeBSD. Its speed is very
slow. While thunderbird start up, I go to brew coffee. Aside from that,
Thunderbird is the best MUA, indeed.

i use pine. others use mutt, elm etc. no need to use windows like thing
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Re: Is your Thunderbird OK?

2007-09-24 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 01:02 -0700, Jay Chandler wrote:
 Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
  I _really_ want to share opinions about this topic (Thunderbird's start
  up speed) with you FreeBSD users.
 
  What do you think of?
 

 I use Thunderbird on my FreeBSD box without issue.  FYI, 2.0.0.6 is the 
 latest, and I have no issue with its load times.
For some reason, I could not upgrade to 2.x version. If 6.3-RELEASE or
7.0-RELEASE release in the future, then I'll use 2.x version.

Thanks,

Byung-Hee

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Re: Is your Thunderbird OK?

2007-09-24 Thread Pollywog
On Monday 24 September 2007 07:19:49 Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
 Hi there,

 Just been wondering about this for long weeks. I have some complain
 Thudnerbird's the speed when it start up on FreeBSD. Its speed is very
 slow. While thunderbird start up, I go to brew coffee. Aside from that,
 Thunderbird is the best MUA, indeed.

I have not noticed this speed issue with Thunderbird.  I use kmail for the 
most part but now and then some mail is not visible in kmail and appears to 
be just headers with no message body, and in those cases I use Thunderbird to 
read those emails that I can't see in kmail.  Thunderbird comes up as fast as 
kmail does.  The only problem that I do have with Thunderbird is that it 
sometimes says that I have the maximum number of connections (I use IMAP) 
open.  kmail never says that.

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dmesg: this is a bug [ath pccard... ok on 6.1 600mhz laptop, same card *no* dmesg at all on 6.2 hp laptop]

2007-08-27 Thread Steve Franks
I sent this out over the weekend to no replies.  Since dmesg
specifically states this is a bug, I assume someone would want to
know about it.  I can reproduce the problem.

Steve

-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Aug 25, 2007 8:27 AM
Subject: update: Danger Will Robinson dmesg [ath pccard... ok on 6.1
600mhz laptop, same card *no* dmesg at all on 6.2 hp laptop]
To: User Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org


update: several minutes after I pulled the ath0 out, I got a dmesg reading:

cbb0: Danger Will Robinson: Resource left allocated!  This is a
bug... (rid=0, type=1, addr=11)
cbb0: Danger Will Robinson: Resource left allocated! This is a bug...
(rid=0, type=4, addr=a100)

Steve

On 8/25/07, Steve Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, I don't have any dmesg, because I don't get one at all with my
 ath0 card that I'm currently typing this on my old dell 600mhz laptop.
  I also have a wi0 card that works on the 600mhz machine, but it gives
 a freeze on the new system, and when you remove it, you get cbb0
 ready never happened, staus=00; pccard0 card has no functions.  I've
 done my homework, and I know these topics come up, but I can't seem to
 google an answer...I really, really, really hate hp/compaq.  I love
 the way it disables the machine if you try to put an atheros card in
 the internal minipci slot.  Shouldn't have bought the $400 laptop.
 What can I say, I used to be a windows user ;) This is my last windows
 machine to fall to bsd, at least it is if I can get a NIC in it to
 work.

 Thanks,
 Steve

 --
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 Staff Engineer
 La Palma Devices, LLC
 http://www.lapalmadevices.com
 (520) 312-0089



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(520) 312-0089


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Re: dmesg: this is a bug [ath pccard... ok on 6.1 600mhz laptop, same card *no* dmesg at all on 6.2 hp laptop]

2007-08-27 Thread Adam J Richardson

Steve Franks wrote:

I sent this out over the weekend to no replies.  Since dmesg
specifically states this is a bug, I assume someone would want to
know about it.  I can reproduce the problem.

Steve


Hi Steve.

Perhaps you might have more success sending this to freebsd-hackers or 
freebsd-bugs, rather than freebsd-questions?


HtH,
Adam J Richardson
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ath pccard ok on 6.1 600mhz laptop, same card *no* dmesg at all on 6.2 hp laptop

2007-08-25 Thread Steve Franks
So, I don't have any dmesg, because I don't get one at all with my
ath0 card that I'm currently typing this on my old dell 600mhz laptop.
 I also have a wi0 card that works on the 600mhz machine, but it gives
a freeze on the new system, and when you remove it, you get cbb0
ready never happened, staus=00; pccard0 card has no functions.  I've
done my homework, and I know these topics come up, but I can't seem to
google an answer...I really, really, really hate hp/compaq.  I love
the way it disables the machine if you try to put an atheros card in
the internal minipci slot.  Shouldn't have bought the $400 laptop.
What can I say, I used to be a windows user ;) This is my last windows
machine to fall to bsd, at least it is if I can get a NIC in it to
work.

Thanks,
Steve

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Staff Engineer
La Palma Devices, LLC
http://www.lapalmadevices.com
(520) 312-0089
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update: Danger Will Robinson dmesg [ath pccard... ok on 6.1 600mhz laptop, same card *no* dmesg at all on 6.2 hp laptop]

2007-08-25 Thread Steve Franks
update: several minutes after I pulled the ath0 out, I got a dmesg reading:

cbb0: Danger Will Robinson: Resource left allocated!  This is a
bug... (rid=0, type=1, addr=11)
cbb0: Danger Will Robinson: Resource left allocated! This is a bug...
(rid=0, type=4, addr=a100)

Steve

On 8/25/07, Steve Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, I don't have any dmesg, because I don't get one at all with my
 ath0 card that I'm currently typing this on my old dell 600mhz laptop.
  I also have a wi0 card that works on the 600mhz machine, but it gives
 a freeze on the new system, and when you remove it, you get cbb0
 ready never happened, staus=00; pccard0 card has no functions.  I've
 done my homework, and I know these topics come up, but I can't seem to
 google an answer...I really, really, really hate hp/compaq.  I love
 the way it disables the machine if you try to put an atheros card in
 the internal minipci slot.  Shouldn't have bought the $400 laptop.
 What can I say, I used to be a windows user ;) This is my last windows
 machine to fall to bsd, at least it is if I can get a NIC in it to
 work.

 Thanks,
 Steve

 --
 Steve Franks, KE7BTE
 Staff Engineer
 La Palma Devices, LLC
 http://www.lapalmadevices.com
 (520) 312-0089



-- 
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Staff Engineer
La Palma Devices, LLC
http://www.lapalmadevices.com
(520) 312-0089
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OK - I'm fairly clueless on this...

2007-06-15 Thread Kurt Buff

This is very strange - I can't get traceroute to work as I expect.
Forgive me if I'm being stupid as well as blind, but perusing the man
page for traceroute brings no joy.

It simply doesn't produce expected results - I don't think I'm on the
same network as www.freebsd.org, so where are the answers from all of
the intervening hops?

zsquid# traceroute www.freebsd.org
traceroute to www.freebsd.org (69.147.83.33), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1  www.freebsd.org (69.147.83.33)  1.050 ms  0.970 ms  2.110 ms



Why is this so important? Well, I'm in a network segment with two
routers, and I'm trying to determine that the machine is using the
correct default gateway.


uname -a yeilds:
FreeBSD zsquid.mycompany.com 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Fri Jun
1 16:03:26 PDT 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

/etc/rc.conf has these lines:

defaultrouter=192.168.8.4
hostname=zsquid.mycompany.com
ifconfig_fxp0=inet 192.168.8.72 netmask 255.255.255.0

ifconfig shows the following:

fxp0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
   options=8VLAN_MTU
   inet 192.168.8.72 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.8.255
   ether 00:11:11:2b:db:97
   media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
   status: active
plip0: flags=108810POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,NEEDSGIANT mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384
   inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
   inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
   inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00

Kurt
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Re: OK - I'm fairly clueless on this...

2007-06-15 Thread Wojciech Puchar

zsquid# traceroute www.freebsd.org
traceroute to www.freebsd.org (69.147.83.33), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1  www.freebsd.org (69.147.83.33)  1.050 ms  0.970 ms  2.110 ms


very short times suggest that the router (possibly NAT machine as 
192.168 suggest) is doing strange things...

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Re: OK - I'm fairly clueless on this...

2007-06-15 Thread Joe Holden
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 zsquid# traceroute www.freebsd.org
 traceroute to www.freebsd.org (69.147.83.33), 64 hops max, 40 byte
 packets
 1  www.freebsd.org (69.147.83.33)  1.050 ms  0.970 ms  2.110 ms
 
 very short times suggest that the router (possibly NAT machine as
 192.168 suggest) is doing strange things...
Do you have a bogus rdr/fwd in your config anywhere?
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