Re: Backups

2006-04-02 Thread Iantcho Vassilev
On 4/1/06, J. Buck Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unison is your answer. I've been using it to synchronize the data on 20 branch servers with the big corporate server for backup onto one big tape drive every night for the last two years. Email me if you need help setting it up.

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread Matthias Andree
Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 02 April 2006 05:20, Lars Cleary wrote: Why don't you just use gmirror(8) and do software RAID 1? IMHO a controller just for RAID 1 is unnecessary, as the OS together with a reasonable motherboards disk controller is just as fast as any

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread Matthias Andree
Tenebrae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Matthias Andree wrote: RAID1 is _not_ a backup, but an availability aid. If going for RAID1, be sure to add a backup solution. More to think about...thank you. I am trying to get some peace of mind on a budget, though. I suppose I

Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released

2006-04-02 Thread Jack Raats
Scott, There's something strange with this release. Yesterday it worked fantastic, better than the FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE. Today it refuses to start :-) Jack It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of FreeBSD 2.2.9-RELEASE. This release is the culmination of

Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released

2006-04-02 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 13:25:59 -0700 Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of FreeBSD 2.2.9-RELEASE. This release is the culmination of SEVENTY-SEVEN Woah there - does that

Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released

2006-04-02 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi! On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 09:48:21AM +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of FreeBSD 2.2.9-RELEASE. This release is the culmination of SEVENTY-SEVEN Woah there - does that mean that 1.1.6 might be out soon too ? That

Re: 6.1 responsiveness under heavy (cpu?) load + thread monitoring

2006-04-02 Thread Mathieu Prevot
On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 01:07:42PM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 16:34:25 +0200 From: Mathieu Prevot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I have a RELENG_6/AMD64 with an AMD64X2 cpu, 1GB of memory, 512MB swap. I remarked that when I run 2

Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released

2006-04-02 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 12:02:38PM +0200 I heard the voice of Patrick M. Hausen, and lo! it spake thus: That will be 1.1.5.2, of course. RELENG_1 is in maintenance mode, now. Y'know, I DO have a box running RELENG_2_1_0... -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Sunday 02 April 2006 17:48, Matthias Andree wrote: You can't boot off a system with a dead primary disk with software RAID1. (well you MIGHT but.. in any case RAID1 cards are quite cheap) It's a matter of the BIOS: will it complain, or will it proceed to the next SATA disk? Yes indeed.

problems with an SATA drive on nVidia3 controller

2006-04-02 Thread Mikhail Teterin
Hello! We have an amd64 machine with an nVidia3 SATA controller on motherboard. The drive just came from the manufacturer and the self-tests initiated via smartctl show no problems: atapci1: nVidia nForce3 Pro SATA150 controller port

[FreeBSD 6] semctl broken compared to 4-STABLE ...

2006-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Back in April '05, someone posted a thread about PostgreSQL within FreeBSD jails: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2005-04/0837.html At the time (and to date) I reported that I was running several PostgreSQL daemons, all on the same port, using FreeBSD 4.x, and all

6.1-PRE hang with sysctl and sched_ule

2006-04-02 Thread Pawel Worach
Hi, Got this interesting hang on a two way (two physical cpus with htt disabled by machdep.hyperthreading_allowed) smp box during boot. Any ideas? Kernel config is pretty much SMP with most drivers cut and KDB, DDB and BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER added. Sources are from this morning. I can only reproduce

make problems as non root user

2006-04-02 Thread Chris
Hi this is a problem that occured on freebsd5.x as well. Box running 6.0-release. after a configure as a non root user and typing make I get permission denied. ezbounce-1.50-pre8 # make make: Permission denied ezbounce-1.50-pre8 # which make /usr/bin/make ezbounce-1.50-pre8 # ls -l

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread George Hartzell
Daniel O'Connor writes: On Sunday 02 April 2006 17:48, Matthias Andree wrote: You can't boot off a system with a dead primary disk with software RAID1. (well you MIGHT but.. in any case RAID1 cards are quite cheap) It's a matter of the BIOS: will it complain, or will it proceed

Re: [FreeBSD 6] semctl broken compared to 4-STABLE ...

2006-04-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 02:55:39PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Back in April '05, someone posted a thread about PostgreSQL within FreeBSD jails: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2005-04/0837.html At the time (and to date) I reported that I was running several

Re: 6.1-PRE hang with sysctl and sched_ule

2006-04-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 08:34:58PM +0200, Pawel Worach wrote: Hi, Got this interesting hang on a two way (two physical cpus with htt disabled by machdep.hyperthreading_allowed) smp box during boot. Any ideas? Stick to 4BSD until a ULE maintainer comes forward and fixes the known bugs. Kris

Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released

2006-04-02 Thread Holger Kipp
On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 01:25:59PM -0700, Scott Long wrote: It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of FreeBSD 2.2.9-RELEASE. This release is the culmination of SEVENTY-SEVEN months of tireless work by the FreeBSD developers, users, their children, and their pets.

Re: [FreeBSD 6] semctl broken compared to 4-STABLE ...

2006-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 02:55:39PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Back in April '05, someone posted a thread about PostgreSQL within FreeBSD jails: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2005-04/0837.html At the time (and to date) I

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread Lars Cleary
I may need to build a box with a RAID 5 array. After checking the OpenBSD pages for their bioctl's driver support. Because I really prefer open drivers, and bioctl seems to be coming Pretty Soon Now to FreeBSD too. And their bioctl supports the AMI driver

Re: [FreeBSD 6] semctl broken compared to 4-STABLE ...

2006-04-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 04:32:31PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 02:55:39PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Back in April '05, someone posted a thread about PostgreSQL within FreeBSD jails:

Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released

2006-04-02 Thread Scott Long
Holger Kipp wrote: On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 01:25:59PM -0700, Scott Long wrote: It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of FreeBSD 2.2.9-RELEASE. This release is the culmination of SEVENTY-SEVEN months of tireless work by the FreeBSD developers, users, their

Re: [FreeBSD 6] semctl broken compared to 4-STABLE ...

2006-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 04:32:31PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 02:55:39PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Back in April '05, someone posted a thread about PostgreSQL within FreeBSD

Re: [FreeBSD 6] semctl broken compared to 4-STABLE ...

2006-04-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 04:54:32PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 04:32:31PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 02:55:39PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Back in

Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released

2006-04-02 Thread Doug Hardie
On Apr 2, 2006, at 12:22, Holger Kipp wrote: On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 01:25:59PM -0700, Scott Long wrote: It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of FreeBSD 2.2.9-RELEASE. This release is the culmination of SEVENTY- SEVEN months of tireless work by the FreeBSD

Re: [FreeBSD 6] semctl broken compared to 4-STABLE ...

2006-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: Right, but why are they doing it *consistently* in FreeBSD 6.x, when they never did it in FreeBSD 4.x? I have postmaster processes running on the FreeBSD box as far back as November 27th, 2005 ... and have *never* experienced this problem ... so it

Re: [FreeBSD 6] semctl broken compared to 4-STABLE ...

2006-04-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 05:24:10PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: Right, but why are they doing it *consistently* in FreeBSD 6.x, when they never did it in FreeBSD 4.x? I have postmaster processes running on the FreeBSD box as far back as November

Re: problems with an SATA drive on nVidia3 controller

2006-04-02 Thread Søren Schmidt
Mikhail Teterin wrote: Hello! We have an amd64 machine with an nVidia3 SATA controller on motherboard. The drive just came from the manufacturer and the self-tests initiated via smartctl show no problems: atapci1: nVidia nForce3 Pro SATA150 controller port

Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released

2006-04-02 Thread Derek Kuliñski
Hello Colin, Saturday, April 1, 2006, 2:43:13 PM, you wrote: Look at the date on Scott's email. :-) Yeah, It's all wrong he set his clock 7 years into the future. -- Best regards, Derekmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.takeda.tk -- RAM disk is *not* an

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Tom Lane wrote: I wrote: Look at IpcSemaphoreCreate and InternalIpcSemaphoreCreate in src/backend/port/sysv_sema.c. It may be worth stepping through them with gdb to see what the semget calls are returning. BTW, even before doing that, you should look at ipcs -s output

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Tom Lane
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Tom Lane wrote: BTW, even before doing that, you should look at ipcs -s output to try to get a clue what's going on. The EINVAL failures may be because the second postmaster to start deletes the semaphores created by the first

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Monday 03 April 2006 04:39, George Hartzell wrote: With raid systems that use proprietary metadata I'd need to find a similar controller to hook them up to. Actually no.. If you are using a cheap RAID like Promise TX2 or just about any onboard IDE/SATA RAID that FreeBSD supports the array

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread George Hartzell
Daniel O'Connor writes: On Monday 03 April 2006 04:39, George Hartzell wrote: With raid systems that use proprietary metadata I'd need to find a similar controller to hook them up to. Actually no.. If you are using a cheap RAID like Promise TX2 or just about any onboard IDE/SATA

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Tom Lane wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Tom Lane wrote: BTW, even before doing that, you should look at ipcs -s output to try to get a clue what's going on. The EINVAL failures may be because the second postmaster to start deletes

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Tom Lane
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Tom Lane wrote: OK, could we see strace (or whatever BSD calls it) output for the second postmaster? I'd like to see exactly what results it's getting for the kernel calls it makes during IpcSemaphoreCreate. 'k, dont' know what

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Sent offlist ... On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Tom Lane wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Tom Lane wrote: OK, could we see strace (or whatever BSD calls it) output for the second postmaster? I'd like to see exactly what results it's getting for the kernel calls it

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread Darren Pilgrim
Daniel O'Connor wrote: On Monday 03 April 2006 04:39, George Hartzell wrote: With raid systems that use proprietary metadata I'd need to find a similar controller to hook them up to. Actually no.. If you are using a cheap RAID like Promise TX2 or just about any onboard IDE/SATA RAID that

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread Tenebrae
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Tenebrae wrote: I was looking at the Adaptec Serial ATA II RAID 1420SA and Promise FastTrak TX4300 4-port SATA RAID PCI adapters. I did find a note on the Promise card that it is now supported in Current. Is this something that might make its way into the 6.x-STABLE

{Spam?} Re: problems with an SATA drive on nVidia3 controller

2006-04-02 Thread Volker
Hello! We have an amd64 machine with an nVidia3 SATA controller on motherboard. [...] ad6: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=249306496 ad6: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=261467776 ad6: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Monday 03 April 2006 12:00, Darren Pilgrim wrote: If you are using a cheap RAID like Promise TX2 or just about any onboard IDE/SATA RAID that FreeBSD supports the array can be used on ANY system. (Except for booting) More concisely, is this because said cheap RAID controllers all use

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Tom Lane
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 'k, try this one ... looks better, actually has semget() calls in it :) OK, here's our problem: 84250: semget(0x52e2c1,0x11,0x780) ERR#17 'File exists' This is InternalIpcSemaphoreCreate failing because of key collision. As it should.

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 11:08:11PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: I venture that FBSD 6 has decided to return ESRCH (no such process) where FBSD 4 returned some other error that acknowledged that the process did exist (EPERM would be a reasonable guess). If this is the story, then FBSD have broken

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Tom Lane
Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 11:08:11PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: If this is the story, then FBSD have broken their system and must revert their change. They do not have kernel behavior that totally hides the existence of the other process, and therefore having

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 11:17:49PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 11:08:11PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: If this is the story, then FBSD have broken their system and must revert their change. They do not have kernel behavior that totally

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Tom Lane
Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 11:17:49PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: I have no objection to doing that, so long as you are actually doing it correctly. This example shows that each jail must have its own SysV semaphore key space, else information leaks anyway.

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 11:17:49PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 11:08:11PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: If this is the story, then FBSD have broken their system and must revert their change. They do

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 11:26:52PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 11:17:49PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: I have no objection to doing that, so long as you are actually doing it correctly. This example shows that each jail must have its own

new feature: private IPC for every jail

2006-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/48471 [kernel] [patch] new feature: private IPC for every jail Its an ancient, 4.x patch for having private IPC in a jail ... not sure how hard it would be to bring it up to 6.x / -current standards though ... but it seems like something 'good'

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: No-one is taking a position of being uninterested, so please don't be hasty to reciprocate. I just posted it off the -hackers list, but there is an ancient patch in the FreeBSD queue for implementing Private IPCs for Jails ... not sure why it was

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 12:30:58AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sun, 2 Apr 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 11:17:49PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 11:08:11PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: If this is the story, then

Re: boot problem in HP Proliant ML370 G4

2006-04-02 Thread Ganbold
Here is dmes.boot and pciconf output on FreeBSD-6.0-RELEASE. Boot takes 3-4 minutes after da0: 140014MB (286749488 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 17849C) line and continues. I will try to upgrade again to 6.1-PRERELEASE later today. I did before and the problem still was there. dmesg.boot:

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Andrew Thompson
On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 11:41:01PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 12:30:58AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: 'k, but how do I fix kill so that it has the proper behaviour if SysV is enabled? Check the source, perhaps there's already a way. If not, talk to whoever

contigmalloc() lameness (Re: boot problem in HP Proliant ML370 G4)

2006-04-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 12:56:57PM +0900, Ganbold wrote: Here is dmes.boot and pciconf output on FreeBSD-6.0-RELEASE. Boot takes 3-4 minutes after da0: 140014MB (286749488 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 17849C) line and continues. I will try to upgrade again to 6.1-PRERELEASE later today. I did

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
taking it off of pgsql-hackers, so that we don't annoy them unnecessarily ... 'k, looking at the code, not that most of it doesn't go over my head ... but ... in kern/kern_jail.c, I can see the prison_check() call ... wouldn't one want to make the change a bit further up? say in

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Andrew Thompson
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 01:23:59AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: taking it off of pgsql-hackers, so that we don't annoy them unnecessarily ... 'k, looking at the code, not that most of it doesn't go over my head ... but ... in kern/kern_jail.c, I can see the prison_check() call ...

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Andrew Thompson wrote: On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 01:23:59AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: taking it off of pgsql-hackers, so that we don't annoy them unnecessarily ... 'k, looking at the code, not that most of it doesn't go over my head ... but ... in kern/kern_jail.c, I

Re: contigmalloc() lameness (Re: boot problem in HP Proliant ML370 G4)

2006-04-02 Thread Ganbold
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 12:56:57PM +0900, Ganbold wrote: Here is dmes.boot and pciconf output on FreeBSD-6.0-RELEASE. Boot takes 3-4 minutes after da0: 140014MB (286749488 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 17849C) line and continues. I will try to upgrade again to

Re: contigmalloc() lameness (Re: boot problem in HP Proliant ML370 G4)

2006-04-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 02:27:31PM +0900, Ganbold wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 12:56:57PM +0900, Ganbold wrote: Here is dmes.boot and pciconf output on FreeBSD-6.0-RELEASE. Boot takes 3-4 minutes after da0: 140014MB (286749488 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 17849C)

RE: contigmalloc() lameness (Re: boot problem in HP Proliant ML370 G4)

2006-04-02 Thread Matthew Jacob
I must have missed something here. What's the problem that causes contigmalloc to be called here? If this is to do with 4GB of memory, that was fixed in -CURRENT over a month ago. -Original Message- From: Ganbold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 10:28 PM To: Kris

Re: [HACKERS] semaphore usage port based?

2006-04-02 Thread Andrew Thompson
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 01:57:17AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Andrew Thompson wrote: On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 01:23:59AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: in kern/kern_jail.c, I can see the prison_check() call ... wouldn't one want to make the change a bit further up?