Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-02-29 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Marko Lerota [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html says Updating Existing Systems An upgrade of any existing system to FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE constitutes a major version upgrade, so no matter which method you use to update an older system you should

make release in a jail

2008-02-29 Thread Niki Denev
Any ideas on how to do make release in jail? It seems that it needs to mount devfs which is not possible inside a jail. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: jerky mouse still in 7.0-RELEASE

2008-02-29 Thread Dominic Fandrey
Jung-uk Kim wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2008 01:30 pm, Teemu Korhonen wrote: Did anyone find a solution to the jerky mouse -problem? It still exists in 7.0-RELEASE. I have pretty much exact same symptoms as in this post:

Re: make release in a jail

2008-02-29 Thread Steven Hartland
You should just be able to set: jail_devfs_enable=YES The on 7.0 use nullfs to mount your /usr/src from the main host and away you go. Could even do the same for /usr/obj to save time Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Niki Denev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-02-29 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:43:20 -0500 Kevin K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one is forcing you to upgrade. Head in the sand reaction. I think the guy is right. The upgrade proces and constant rebuilding of ports made me switch in the end after years of using freeBSD. My computer is fast, but I want

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-02-29 Thread Kris Kennaway
Dick Hoogendijk wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:43:20 -0500 Kevin K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one is forcing you to upgrade. Head in the sand reaction. I think the guy is right. The upgrade proces and constant rebuilding of ports made me switch in the end after years of using freeBSD. My

PAUSE support for Ethernet interfaces ?

2008-02-29 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! I'm researching the topic of PAUSE counters (receiving side) for FreeBSD systems. That's a sort of flow control with ethernet, see e.g.: http://www.techfest.com/networking/lan/ethernet3.htm#3.2.1 Cisco switches seem to receive and count them, which helps to find short-term (seconds)

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-02-29 Thread Kris Kennaway
Chris H. wrote: While not a recommended substitution for good housekeeping. I thought it worth mentioning: LIBMAP.CONF(5) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=libmap.confapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+6.3-RELEASEformat=html This can be used safely sometimes, but it is dangerous when

7.0 - slow/unstable Internet access via Linux router

2008-02-29 Thread Dmitry Antipov
Hello, recently I've installed 7.0 and now I'm observing strange thing with my Internet connection. Access to some sites may be VERY slow or doesn't work at all with different kinds of timeout messages or without messages at all (but other sites works fine). For example, firefox may say

Re: 7.0 - slow/unstable Internet access via Linux router

2008-02-29 Thread Ivan Voras
Dmitry Antipov wrote: Hello, recently I've installed 7.0 and now I'm observing strange thing with my Internet connection. Meaning you had earlier versions installed that worked? If so, did configuration change? I've tried to reduce MTU to match router's ppp0 setting with ifconfig msk0 mtu

$HOME changed from 6.2 to 6.3 and 7.0 ?!

2008-02-29 Thread Thomas Krause
Dear list, after upgrading from 6.2R to 6.3R my daily jobs, which are normaly executed from /etc/daily.local, are not longer started. The entry in daily.local is $HOME/bin/save-conf.sh 6.2R executed /root/bin/save-conf.sh 6.3R (and 7.0R) tries to start /var/log/bin/save-conf.bin Why? I cannot

Re: jerky mouse still in 7.0-RELEASE

2008-02-29 Thread Kris Kennaway
Dominic Fandrey wrote: Jung-uk Kim wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2008 01:30 pm, Teemu Korhonen wrote: Did anyone find a solution to the jerky mouse -problem? It still exists in 7.0-RELEASE. I have pretty much exact same symptoms as in this post:

Re: $HOME changed from 6.2 to 6.3 and 7.0 ?!

2008-02-29 Thread Willy Offermans
Dear Thomas and FreeBSD friends, On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:52:11PM +0100, Thomas Krause wrote: Dear list, after upgrading from 6.2R to 6.3R my daily jobs, which are normaly executed from /etc/daily.local, are not longer started. The entry in daily.local is $HOME/bin/save-conf.sh 6.2R

Re: jerky mouse still in 7.0-RELEASE

2008-02-29 Thread Dominic Fandrey
Kris Kennaway wrote: Dominic Fandrey wrote: Jung-uk Kim wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2008 01:30 pm, Teemu Korhonen wrote: Did anyone find a solution to the jerky mouse -problem? It still exists in 7.0-RELEASE. I have pretty much exact same symptoms as in this post:

Re: jerky mouse still in 7.0-RELEASE

2008-02-29 Thread Dominic Fandrey
Kris Kennaway wrote: Dominic Fandrey wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Your problem has different symptoms, so not entirely surprising that it doesn't help :) Sounds more like that your mouse just isn't working properly with moused. Oh, it works fine on the console. Only the combination moused/X

Re: jerky mouse still in 7.0-RELEASE

2008-02-29 Thread Kris Kennaway
Dominic Fandrey wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Dominic Fandrey wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Your problem has different symptoms, so not entirely surprising that it doesn't help :) Sounds more like that your mouse just isn't working properly with moused. Oh, it works fine on the console. Only

Re: jerky mouse still in 7.0-RELEASE

2008-02-29 Thread Kris Kennaway
Dominic Fandrey wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Dominic Fandrey wrote: Jung-uk Kim wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2008 01:30 pm, Teemu Korhonen wrote: Did anyone find a solution to the jerky mouse -problem? It still exists in 7.0-RELEASE. I have pretty much exact same symptoms as in this post:

sendmail breaks make distribution

2008-02-29 Thread Dominic Fandrey
Running ezjail-update fails. Is this an error of ezjail (i.e. should it use distributeworld instead of distribution) or is something broken with the sendmail makefiles? === master (install) install -o root -g wheel -m 644 empty.db localhost-forward.db localhost-reverse.db

Re: $HOME changed from 6.2 to 6.3 and 7.0 ?!

2008-02-29 Thread Thomas Krause
Dear Thomas and FreeBSD friends, On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:52:11PM +0100, Thomas Krause wrote: Dear list, after upgrading from 6.2R to 6.3R my daily jobs, which are normaly executed from /etc/daily.local, are not longer started. The entry in daily.local is $HOME/bin/save-conf.sh 6.2R

Re: jerky mouse still in 7.0-RELEASE

2008-02-29 Thread Dominic Fandrey
Kris Kennaway wrote: Dominic Fandrey wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Well it doesn't rule it out. X may be introducing latencies that are causing your mouse to lose sync or something. It's not the mouse that hangs. It's the only thing that works, everything else hangs when I combine moused/X.

Re: $HOME changed from 6.2 to 6.3 and 7.0 ?!

2008-02-29 Thread Nick Barnes
At 2008-02-29 12:15:26+, Willy Offermans writes: Is /usr/local/etc/periodic/daily/ not the place to put your daily executable scripts? What is daily.local about? /etc/daily.local predates /etc/periodic/, somewhat. It was introduced in 1996. Before that, there was just the /etc/daily

Re: jerky mouse still in 7.0-RELEASE

2008-02-29 Thread Kris Kennaway
Dominic Fandrey wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Dominic Fandrey wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Well it doesn't rule it out. X may be introducing latencies that are causing your mouse to lose sync or something. It's not the mouse that hangs. It's the only thing that works, everything else hangs

Re: if_re losinbg ability to communicate, even with latest patches

2008-02-29 Thread Christoph Schug
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008, Pete French wrote: yesterday I had my first experience of an if_re interface simply stopping responding. I ma running 7.0-RELEASE on the machine, but with the lates files taken from here: http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/re/7.0R/if_re.c

Re: jerky mouse still in 7.0-RELEASE

2008-02-29 Thread Dominic Fandrey
Coleman Kane wrote: Dominic Fandrey wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Dominic Fandrey wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Well it doesn't rule it out. X may be introducing latencies that are causing your mouse to lose sync or something. It's not the mouse that hangs. It's the only thing that works,

Re: jerky mouse still in 7.0-RELEASE

2008-02-29 Thread Coleman Kane
Dominic Fandrey wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Dominic Fandrey wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Well it doesn't rule it out. X may be introducing latencies that are causing your mouse to lose sync or something. It's not the mouse that hangs. It's the only thing that works, everything else hangs

Re: if_re losinbg ability to communicate, even with latest patches

2008-02-29 Thread Pete French
running a RELENG_7/amd64 as of 2008-Feb-22 with the re(4) driver from the URLs above. As a precaution, I disabled all kinds of hardware offloadings. ...and it is stable for you ? I will defintely go and turn these off in that case! Also, I note your are runnign RELENG_7 and not RELENG_7_0 -

Re: I tried to install 7.0 today and had problems.

2008-02-29 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:06:28AM -0700, geek wrote: I tried to install 7.0 on a computer with an ABIT AV8 motherboard. This board has an integrated NIC and the installer didn't find it. The board uses a native VIA NIC (never seen this one before myself):

Re: jerky mouse still in 7.0-RELEASE

2008-02-29 Thread Jim Pingle
Kris Kennaway wrote: Teemu Korhonen wrote: Did anyone find a solution to the jerky mouse -problem? It still exists in 7.0-RELEASE. I have pretty much exact same symptoms as in this post: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-January/039599.html Part of the problem here is

Re: if_re losinbg ability to communicate, even with latest patches

2008-02-29 Thread Christoph Schug
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008, Pete French wrote: ...and it is stable for you ? I will defintely go and turn these off in that case! Also, I note your are runnign RELENG_7 and not RELENG_7_0 - any idea what changes there might have been in that ? Up to I haven't encountered a real show stopper beside

Re: I tried to install 7.0 today and had problems.

2008-02-29 Thread Tom Evans
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 07:43 -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:06:28AM -0700, geek wrote: I tried to install 7.0 on a computer with an ABIT AV8 motherboard. This board has an integrated NIC and the installer didn't find it. The board uses a native VIA NIC (never

Re: 7.0 - slow/unstable Internet access via Linux router

2008-02-29 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 02:06:38PM +0300, Dmitry Antipov wrote: recently I've installed 7.0 and now I'm observing strange thing with my Internet connection. Access to some sites may be VERY slow or doesn't work at all with different kinds of timeout messages or without messages at all (but

Re: I tried to install 7.0 today and had problems.

2008-02-29 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:43:36 -0800 Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.uabit.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=32Itemid=48page=1model=175 http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/116/vialan.jpg This same machine works just fine with 6.2. What driver (interface

Re: ad0 READ_DMA TIMEOUT errors on install of 7.0-RELEASE

2008-02-29 Thread Chris
On 28/02/2008, Mark Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 02:47:28PM +, Chris wrote: Did they push ahead with release because waiting for the mia dev? There's a lot of things that go into deciding when to release. The release cycle this time was not supposed to be as

Subscribe for Free Teacher Resources: Poetry Units of Study!

2008-02-29 Thread Constance Famiglietti
Poetry is one of the most powerful genres! Aside from bringing joyful reading and writing experiences to our classrooms, poetry can be the foundation from which students build confidence and excellence as writers. Using descriptive writing, strong word choice, developing and supporting a

Re: ntpd fails to synchronize on FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE

2008-02-29 Thread Pongthep Kulkrisada
Firstly, thank all of you for supporting me! But please note that I shall install FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE this weekend. So I can no longer give you more information regarding 6.3-STABLE. Secondly I'm sorry for confusing you (NAT: I mean the machine ``behind NAT.'') 1. FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE(dial up)

uchcom MFC?

2008-02-29 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Now that 7.0 has been cut, any chance that the uchcom driver could be MFC'd? ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: uchcom MFC?

2008-02-29 Thread Rink Springer
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 08:07:01PM +0100, Luigi Rizzo wrote: On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 06:59:10PM +, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: Now that 7.0 has been cut, any chance that the uchcom driver could be MFC'd? good idea - i just built it under 6.3 and it did build and work without changing a

Re: uchcom MFC?

2008-02-29 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 06:59:10PM +, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: Now that 7.0 has been cut, any chance that the uchcom driver could be MFC'd? good idea - i just built it under 6.3 and it did build and work without changing a single bit. cheers luigi freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-29 Thread gregoryd . freebsd
Quoting Ken Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi ! On behalf of the FreeBSD Project thanks for your interest in FreeBSD. We hope you enjoy the new release. I've just spent the whole morning installing it on my office desktop. It was an awful experience: installing packages from the three CDs kept

Unable to boot without VGA-card

2008-02-29 Thread Mark Reidel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear list, 2 days ago, I upgraded my router from 6.3 to 7-PRERELEASE, because I wanted journaling UFS. This all worked well, because I have two hard disks. So I created a journaling ad1s1a.journal and copied all the stuff. This PC doesn't have

Re: $HOME changed from 6.2 to 6.3 and 7.0 ?!

2008-02-29 Thread Ulrich Spoerlein
On Fri, 29.02.2008 at 12:52:11 +0100, Thomas Krause wrote: Dear list, after upgrading from 6.2R to 6.3R my daily jobs, which are normaly executed from /etc/daily.local, are not longer started. The entry in daily.local is $HOME/bin/save-conf.sh 6.2R executed /root/bin/save-conf.sh 6.3R

Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements

2008-02-29 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Chris H. wrote: While not a recommended substitution for good housekeeping. I thought it worth mentioning: LIBMAP.CONF(5) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=libmap.confapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+6.3-RELEASEformat=html This can be used

Re: $HOME changed from 6.2 to 6.3 and 7.0 ?!

2008-02-29 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:07:23PM +0100, Ulrich Spoerlein wrote: # $FreeBSD: src/etc/crontab,v 1.32 2002/11/22 16:13:39 tom Exp $ ... HOME=/var/log If this has changed from before, I guess it would be due to a new shell forking which always reset $HOME. Thus, it only worked before by sheer

Re: Unable to boot without VGA-card

2008-02-29 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 09:00:04PM +0100, Mark Reidel wrote: Does anybody have any idea what else I could try? Is it possible for you to put the machine up on serial console somehow? This might permit you to see where the problem is occurring. Assuming you're using the FreeBSD boot straps, put

Re: 7.0 - slow/unstable Internet access via Linux router

2008-02-29 Thread Sean C. Farley
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Dmitry Antipov wrote: Hello, recently I've installed 7.0 and now I'm observing strange thing with my Internet connection. Access to some sites may be VERY slow or doesn't work at all with different kinds of timeout messages or without messages at all (but other sites

FreeBSD 6.3 + Xen 3.1 HVM: Success!

2008-02-29 Thread Freddie Cash
Just thought I'd pass along that I have successfully installed FreeBSD 6.3 into a Xen 3.1 HVM. Went a lot smoother than I expected. Haven't done any benchmarking or stress testing or port installs or anything. But so far it's working nicely. Here's all the info. If you'd like to see

Re: ad0 READ_DMA TIMEOUT errors on install of 7.0-RELEASE

2008-02-29 Thread Ross Penner
I'm having very similar problems on my system that I just upgraded last night. It's a MiniITX board, model EN1200. My system can't remain up for more than 10minutes before something locks it up and frequently the screen will output error messages relating to DMA. I'd love to be able to help and

FreeBSD 6.2 -- cvsup to 7.0 + make buildworld fails

2008-02-29 Thread Kevin K
I have cvsupped my src - cvsup stable-supfile / RELENG_7 cvsup5,3,4.freebsd.org many times and I keep failing @ make buildworld : magic, 67702: Warning type `log' invalid magic, 67703: Warning offset [EMAIL PROTECTED] files no longer part of the vendor's file(1).' invalid magic, 67703: Warning

Re: FreeBSD 6.2 -- cvsup to 7.0 + make buildworld fails

2008-02-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 29/02/2008, Kevin K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have cvsupped my src - cvsup stable-supfile / RELENG_7 cvsup5,3,4.freebsd.org many times and I keep failing @ make buildworld : . . . . magic, 67922: Warning offset `@@' invalid magic, 67922: Warning type `@@' invalid mkmagic: Printf

FreeBSD 6.3 + Xen 3.1 + HVM: Success!

2008-02-29 Thread Freddie Cash
Just thought I'd pass along that I have successfully installed FreeBSD 6.3 into a Xen 3.1 HVM. Went a lot smoother than I expected. Haven't done any benchmarking or stress testing or port installs or anything. But so far it's working nicely. Here's all the info. If you'd like to see anything

FreeBSD 7.0 + Xen 3.1 + HVM: Success!

2008-02-29 Thread Freddie Cash
Just thought I'd pass along that I have successfully installed FreeBSD 7.0 into a Xen 3.1 HVM.  This one went as smooth as I expected, considering my experience with 6.3.  Haven't done any benchmarking or stress testing or port installs or anything.  But so far it's working nicely. Here's all

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On behalf of the FreeBSD Project thanks for your interest in FreeBSD. We hope you enjoy the new release. I've just spent the whole morning installing it on my office desktop. It was an awful experience: installing packages from the three CDs kept making me switch

Re: ad0 READ_DMA TIMEOUT errors on install of 7.0-RELEASE

2008-02-29 Thread Stephen Hurd
last night. It's a MiniITX board, model EN1200. My system can't remain up for more than 10minutes before something locks it up and frequently the screen will output error messages relating to DMA. As a workaround, adding the line: hw.ata.ata_dma=0 To /boot/loader.conf will disable DMA and

7.0 Kernel install problem

2008-02-29 Thread Alex de Kruijff
Make buildworld make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC whent without errors. Make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC gave me this: === zyd (install) install -o root -g wheel -m 555 if_zyd.ko /boot/kernel install -o root -g wheel -m 555 if_zyd.ko.symbols /boot/kernel kldxref /boot/kernel kldxref: file

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-29 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, February 29, 2008 11:54 PM + Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On behalf of the FreeBSD Project thanks for your interest in FreeBSD. We hope you enjoy the new release. I've just spent the whole morning installing it on my office desktop. It

Re: ad0 READ_DMA TIMEOUT errors on install of 7.0-RELEASE

2008-02-29 Thread Chris
On 29/02/2008, Stephen Hurd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: last night. It's a MiniITX board, model EN1200. My system can't remain up for more than 10minutes before something locks it up and frequently the screen will output error messages relating to DMA. As a workaround, adding the line:

FreeBSD 7 buildworld error

2008-02-29 Thread Derek Taylor
.20080229. Someone suggested that I might have a ulimit problem, but that looks ok to me: $ ulimit -a core file size (blocks, -c) unlimited data seg size (kbytes, -d) 524288 file size (blocks, -f) unlimited max locked memory (kbytes, -l) unlimited max

Re: FreeBSD 7 buildworld error

2008-02-29 Thread Alfred Perlstein
at http://www.personal.psu.edu/det135/freebsd.buildworld.20080229. Someone suggested that I might have a ulimit problem, but that looks ok to me: $ ulimit -a core file size (blocks, -c) unlimited data seg size (kbytes, -d) 524288 file size (blocks

Re: ad0 READ_DMA TIMEOUT errors on install of 7.0-RELEASE

2008-02-29 Thread Stephen Hurd
As a workaround, adding the line: hw.ata.ata_dma=0 To /boot/loader.conf will disable DMA and prevent the hangs that are caused by the DMA timeouts. Does that workaround work when the disks are sata? Don't know. I personally would assume so, but I wouldn't be surprised if my

portupgrade, recommended by 7 release notes, breaks perl

2008-02-29 Thread Steven Hartland
Seems portupgrade can easily break the perl install. How? Well there are various modules which can be updated but are also part of the base perl and are hence required. A good example of this is ExtUtils::MakeMaker. If you uninstall any version of this port your done for, as trying to build it

Very large kernel

2008-02-29 Thread Alex de Kruijff
I noticed that the kernel directory was very large compaired to 6.1. Is this for debugging and can I safely remove the symbols files I want to save some space? Tanks, Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. Howtos based on my personal use, including

Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available

2008-02-29 Thread Nawfal bin Mohmad Rouyan
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 19:18 -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Friday, February 29, 2008 11:54 PM + Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On behalf of the FreeBSD Project thanks for your interest in FreeBSD. We hope you enjoy the new release. I've just