Re: [HEADSUP]: Ports feature freeze for 8.1 now in effect

2010-06-18 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:10:28 +0200 Erwin Lansing er...@freebsd.org wrote: In preparation for 8.1-RELEASE, the ports tree is now in feature freeze. Normal upgrade, new ports, and changes that only affect other branches are allowed without prior approval but with the extra Feature safe: yes

Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days

2010-04-21 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 02:14:20 +0300 Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org wrote: A switch to use newer GMP version has been committed. Unfortunately lang/ghc and dependent ports (and possibly lang/gnat-gcc44) were broken by this. The brokenness wasn't detected in our -exp run because of being

Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days

2010-04-20 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:40:35 -0700 Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:38 PM, freebsd-po...@coreland.ath.cx wrote: On 2010-04-20 02:14:20, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: A switch to use newer GMP version has been committed. I'm still investigating lang/gnat-gcc44

Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days

2010-04-20 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:14:28 +0300 Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org wrote: I've provided some tips for itetcu to work around this on IRC (basically disable ccache), but it kind of sucks when you run into periodic issues with toolchain variance like this, s.t. building with NO_CACHE=yes

Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days

2010-04-19 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
A switch to use newer GMP version has been committed. Unfortunately lang/ghc and dependent ports (and possibly lang/gnat-gcc44) were broken by this. The brokenness wasn't detected in our -exp run because of being masked by other issues. It will take a few days to fix lang/ghc. I'm still

Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days

2010-04-14 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:03:22 -0700 Ted Faber fa...@isi.edu wrote: On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 04:38:28PM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: Hi, As announced before, a few big commits, that touch some thousands ports are being done: png, curl, x11, gnome, kde4. The target ETA is 6-7 April

Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days

2010-04-07 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:20:47 -0500 Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com wrote: [ .. ] === Port directory: /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod === This port is marked IGNORE === requires the userland sources to be installed. Set SRC_BASE if it is not in /usr/src

Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days

2010-04-05 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
Just a status update: PNG and cURL are in, and png fall-outs are believed to be fixed. Xorg update has gone through an -exp run on Pointy and our xorg team is working on fixing the approx. 60 ports with problems. I will begin -exp runs for Gnome and KDE updates tonight or tomorrow morning.

[ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days

2010-03-28 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
Hi, As announced before, a few big commits, that touch some thousands ports are being done: png, curl, x11, gnome, kde4. The target ETA is 6-7 April. The first one was done, update of graphics/png (including a shared lib version bump), with about 5000 ports affected. We do _NOT_ recommend

Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days

2010-03-28 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:56:34 +0200 Tobias Roth freebsd.li...@fsck.ch wrote: On 3/28/10 3:38 PM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: Hi, As announced before, a few big commits, that touch some thousands ports are being done: png, curl, x11, gnome, kde4. The target ETA is 6-7 April

Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade

2009-02-19 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:22:03 -0600 Robert Noland rnol...@freebsd.org wrote: On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 16:39 +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote: On 2009-02-19 13:21, Stephen Clark wrote: (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//vnc.so dlopen:

Re: Strange problem with skype on RELENG_6 KERNEL since the end of may.

2007-06-14 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:29:09 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A RELENG_6 kernel from May 21 works fine with skype but boot a newer kernel and skype seems to be blocking port 80. Apache logs show nothing. I can find no logs errors anywhere but a telnet to port 80

PAE doesn't compile on 6[.1] because of bce

2006-05-02 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
[re@ CC'ed as they are probably interested in this for 6.1 release ] Hi, With today sources and KERNCONF=PAE on 6-STABLE : cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual

Re: nve timeout (and down) regression?

2006-03-24 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:34:24 -0800 Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:59:56 + (UTC) From: Bjoern A. Zeeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, JoaoBR wrote: On Thursday 23 March 2006 15:59, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: nve did not worked on 6.0R

Re: nve timeout (and down) regression?

2006-03-24 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:55:41 -0800 Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:33:17 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:34:24 -0800 Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:59:56 + (UTC) From

Re: [SOLVED] cnet compile problem

2006-03-07 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 13:12:15 +1100 B .Wiggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Brett, I am currently studying a Data communications and networking subject at Monash University. I am using cnet at home for the labs on my FreeBSD notebook as we are using William Stallings'

Re: fdisk, bsdlabel and hidden tricks

2006-01-31 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:22:13 + (GMT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Paul) wrote: Also, when creating what's supposed to be /, make sure you toggle off softupdates in the label editor. It's smart enough to only enable softupdates by default on non-root filesystems, but it only knows this by

VT8237(VT6410) SATA Interrupt storm

2006-01-24 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
Hi, On my 6.0-STABLE #1: Mon Jan 23 00:45:10 EET 2006 while burning a DVD image i got this: Jan 24 09:33:10 it kernel: Interrupt storm detected on irq20: atapci0; throttling interrupt source Jan 24 09:33:15 it kernel: ata2: reiniting channel .. Jan 24 09:33:15 it kernel: ata2: SATA connect

Re: panic: mb_dtor_mbuf: M_EXT set

2006-01-23 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:31:47 +0300 Gleb Smirnoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 04:27:09PM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: I On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 11:58:54PM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: I I On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 04:17:12PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff I I wrote: I I

Re: panic: mb_dtor_mbuf: M_EXT set

2006-01-23 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:05:25 +0300 Gleb Smirnoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 11:58:54PM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: I On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 04:17:12PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: I On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 03:09:02PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: I T This should

Re: panic: mb_dtor_mbuf: M_EXT set

2006-01-23 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:39:56 +0300 Gleb Smirnoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 04:35:07PM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: I On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 04:27:09PM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: I I On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 11:58:54PM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu I I wrote: I I I

Re: panic: mb_dtor_mbuf: M_EXT set

2006-01-23 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:50:25 +0300 Gleb Smirnoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 04:44:53PM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: I Probably you hit another incorrect KASSERT in kern_mbuf.c. I have I removed it some time after the first one. Since X was starting at I this moment

Re: panic: mb_dtor_mbuf: M_EXT set

2006-01-22 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:16:24 +0100 Christian Brueffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 04:17:12PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 03:09:02PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: T This should be fixed in src/sys/kern_mbuf.c, rev. 1.9.2.3 And another bogus

6-STABLE from 19: panic: mb_dtor_mbuf: M_EXT set

2006-01-20 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
Hi, On ifconfig vr0 up I get each time a the panic bellow; last good kernel I have is from Dec 31 and if_vr hasn't been touched since November. # kgdb /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IT6_U/kernel.debug /usr/crash/vmcore.4 [GDB will not be able to debug user-mode threads: /usr/lib/libthread_db.so:

Re: compat 5x libraries missnig after restart

2005-12-28 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:25:39 -0600 Stephen Montgomery-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug Barton wrote: Add the following to /etc/rc.conf.local: compat5x_enable=yes And it would probably help if you watched the messages printed to the console as the system boots. And you should

Re: HEADS UP: Please clean out your */etc/rc.d directories

2005-12-23 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:52:27 -0800 Brooks Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, how will this effect cups which installs a .sample file? and any other port that does this? .sample files should go away. If for some reason a script must be modified to be useful, the sample version should

Re: HEADS UP: MFC of local_startup changes to rc.d complete

2005-12-23 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:38:15 +0100 Florent Thoumie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 23 December 2005 15:19, Jose M Rodriguez wrote: I'm not sure this is the way to go, but ... Can someone put a document on what is the desired model? I think we have too much little pieces of disperse

Re: HEADS UP: MFC of local_startup changes to rc.d complete

2005-12-23 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:28:19 +0100 Florent Thoumie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 23 December 2005 18:52, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:38:15 +0100 Florent Thoumie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 23 December 2005 15:19, Jose M Rodriguez wrote: I'm not sure

Re: Bug[?] In new local_startup and postgresql

2005-12-21 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 00:50:07 +0100 Cristiano Deana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a today upgrade to 6-STABLE postgresql doesn't start at boot. Strange beavior, if I run `/usr/local/etc/rc.d/010.pgsql.sh start' it starts correctly. 010.pgsql.sh is the same of updated ports. This is

[backtrace] (snd_solo) mtx_lock_sleep: recursed on non-recursive mutex

2005-11-30 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
Hi, In my quest to find an other sound card that works with skype, I salvaged an ESS Solo-1 (ES1938S H209). Trying to play anything through it results from pcm channel dead to hard freezes and ,the last time I got the panic bellow. Any chance to make it work or should I keep searching ?

Re: 6.0 Release - Pentium install panic and some questions

2005-11-23 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:25:31 +1000 Paul Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:03 am, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 09:28:27PM +1000, Paul Koch wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 07:24 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote: Issue 1: Can't install on a Pentium P5 class machine:

Re: Booting 6.0 RC1 with synced sources from today hangs

2005-10-29 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:23:56 +0200 Manfred Lotz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I tried FreeBSD 6.0 RC1 whic hworked fine besides that when booting after the message acd2: DVDR NEC DVD RW ND-3540A/1.01 at ata3-master DUMA33 it took a minute or so to show the next message. No I

[with trace] Re: 6.0-BETA5 from yesterday panics on kldload nfsserver.ko

2005-09-26 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:31:11 -0400 Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 25, 2005 at 04:20:17PM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: This is completely reproducible, unfortunately the core file is corrupted. warning: /usr/crash/vmcore.1: no core file handler recognizes format

6.0-BETA5 from yesterday panics on kldload nfsserver.ko

2005-09-25 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
This is completely reproducible, unfortunately the core file is corrupted. warning: /usr/crash/vmcore.1: no core file handler recognizes format, using default Can't fetch registers from this type of core file Can't fetch registers from this type of core file #0 0x in ?? () (gdb) [EMAIL

Re: Romanian BitDefender for FreeBSD Mail Servers line

2005-05-28 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Sat, 28 May 2005 10:29:17 +0300 Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Here are some links about the BitDefender for FreeBSD Mail Servers line. http://www.bitdefender.com/bd/site/products.php?p_id=52 ftp://ftp.bitdefender.com/pub/freebsd/mailserver/RELEASE_NOTES As a side note,

Re: Lifetime of FreeBSD branches

2005-05-23 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Mon, 23 May 2005 23:08:18 +0200 Simon L. Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005.05.23 16:51:18 -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: On Mon, May 23, 2005 3:42 pm, Colin Percival said: http://www.freebsd.org/security/ In addition to the material there (which is concerned with existing

Re: Problems with portupgrade

2005-05-21 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Sat, 21 May 2005 15:49:03 -0500 Jim C. Nasby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 02:47:28PM -0500, Barry Pederson wrote: Jim C. Nasby wrote: I'm trying to upgrade spamassassin, but portupgrade is stubling on every dependant port. It appears it wants to re-install each port,

Re: Acroread 7 port broken?

2005-05-17 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 17 May 2005 12:41:20 -0700 Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 17 May 2005 11:21 am, ya hoo wrote: I just tried to install acroread 7 from the ports that I cvsup'd last night. It tells me that it is marked broekn. I assume it is broken, but does anyone know when it

Re: iso numbering

2005-05-09 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Mon, 9 May 2005 07:02:07 +0200 Zoran Kolic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a question before 5.4: what would be iso 1 on release? Live system or instalation? Both. -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD user ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing

Re: getting handbooks via cvsup?

2005-04-24 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:21:53 +0200 O. Hartmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a way getting various handbook's sources via cvsup, common handbook English/German and some developers handbooks (developer, porter). On each nstallation CD I can find various handbook types (PS,

[5.4] installworld fails in acpica

2005-04-04 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
Hey Sources of a couple of hours ago, clean obj dir, etc -- Installing everything -- cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 install === share/info === include [ ... ] if [ -L

Re: Today -STABLE doesn't build in rescue - ifconfig.lo

2005-03-24 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:07:31 +0200 Ruslan Ermilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 09:29:48AM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:47:04 -0800 Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: Hi, This happens when makeing

Today -STABLE doesn't build in rescue - ifconfig.lo

2005-03-23 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
Hi, This happens when makeing world with -DNOCLEAN, sources cvsup'ed 5 minutes ago. I'm going to try a clean build and let you know if that solves it: . `rtapelib.o' is up to date. `tar.o' is up to date. `update.o' is up to date. cc -static -o rescue rescue.o cat.lo chflags.lo

Re: Today -STABLE doesn't build in rescue - ifconfig.lo

2005-03-23 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:47:04 -0800 Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: Hi, This happens when makeing world with -DNOCLEAN, sources cvsup'ed 5 minutes ago. I'm going to try a clean build and let you know if that solves it: It definitely should solve

Re: 5.3-stable doesn't ifconfig at startup

2005-02-11 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:48:27 -0500 (EST) Kenneth W Cochran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:27:01 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kenneth W Cochran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3-stable doesn't ifconfig at startup

Re: ULE status

2005-02-11 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 08:39:15 -0800 Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 03:58:22PM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:45:17 +0200 (EET) Viktor Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ... ] On the other hand, using SCHED_ULE improves sound quality

Re: ULE status

2005-02-11 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:47:27 +0200 Ion-Mihai Tetcu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 08:39:15 -0800 Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 03:58:22PM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:45:17 +0200 (EET) Viktor Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: 5.3-stable doesn't ifconfig at startup

2005-02-10 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:00:39 -0500 (EST) Kenneth W Cochran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello -stable: Any idea(s) why (my) 5.3-stable (as of 9 February) isn't configuring the network interface or setting up the default route? I installed 5.3-release from CD and things worked fine. Then I

Re: ULE status

2005-02-09 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:13:22 +0200 (EET) Viktor Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Ôåâðóàðè 8, 2005 15:58, Ion-Mihai Tetcu êàçà: I've been using only SCHED_ULE on my UP WS, even when there was #error def. It never broke, not even once :) Though I think there's trouble with SMP

Re: recompile, harddrive(partition) error

2005-02-09 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
[ please trim the original email ] On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:46:43 +0300 dima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. the only safe compiler options for kernel/world builds are -O -pipe. -O2 -pipe for sometime now. -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD user ___

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:33:04 +0100 Michael Nottebrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 13:07, Mipam wrote: Hi, I saw several changes to sched_ule.c in the 5 stable branch. Beneath is one of them: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2005-February/039863.html

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:00:03 +0100 Michael Nottebrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 13:43, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: There used to be a panic when using rtprio to raise the priority of a running process, do you know if it's fix ? I never got any panics with ULE back

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:51:17 +0200 (EET) Viktor Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Ôåâðóàðè 8, 2005 14:43, Ion-Mihai Tetcu êàçà: Could you tell us again after a week ? There used to be a panic when using rtprio to raise the priority of a running process, do you know if it's fix

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:45:17 +0200 (EET) Viktor Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Ôåâðóàðè 8, 2005 14:33, Michael Nottebrock êàçà: On Tuesday, 8. February 2005 13:07, Mipam wrote: I saw several changes to sched_ule.c in the 5 stable branch. Beneath is one of them:

Re: ULE status

2005-02-08 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 08:39:15 -0800 Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 03:58:22PM +0200, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:45:17 +0200 (EET) Viktor Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 8, 2005 14:33, Michael Nottebrock