Re: Does this disk/filesystem layout look sane to you?

2009-06-17 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi-- On Jun 16, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Andrew Reilly wrote: I bought a pair of identical WD 750G SATA drives the other day and was surprised to discover that they were different sizes: ad4: 715403MB WDC WD7500AACS-00D6B1 01.01A01 at ata2-master SATA150 ad6: 715404MB WDC WD7500AACS-00D6B1 01.01A01

Re: Does this disk/filesystem layout look sane to you?

2009-06-16 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2009-Jun-15 09:57:39 +0100, Pete French petefre...@ticketswitch.com wrote: In my expereince all the ones from the same manufacturer and model are exactly the same size. Admittedly I only ever buy SCSI, but that shouldnt make too much difference should it ? I have 3 Samsung HD103UJ disks and

Re: Does this disk/filesystem layout look sane to you?

2009-06-16 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 04:53:12AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2009-Jun-15 09:57:39 +0100, Pete French petefre...@ticketswitch.com wrote: In my expereince all the ones from the same manufacturer and model are exactly the same size. Admittedly I only ever buy SCSI, but that shouldnt make

Re: Does this disk/filesystem layout look sane to you?

2009-06-15 Thread Dan Naumov
The main reason for NOT using zfs directly on raw disks is the fact that you cannot replace a vdev in a pool with a smaller one, only with one of equal size or bigger. This leads to a problem: if you are a regular Joe User (and not a company buying certified hardware from a specific vendor) and

Re: Does this disk/filesystem layout look sane to you?

2009-06-15 Thread Pete French
The new 2tb disk you buy can very often be actually a few sectors smaller then the disk you are trying to replace, this in turn will lead to zfs not accepting the new disk as a replacement, because it's smaller (no matter how small). Heh - you are in for a pleasent surprise my friend! ;-) If

Re: Does this disk/filesystem layout look sane to you?

2009-06-15 Thread Dan Naumov
If this is true, some magic has been done to the FreeBSD port of ZFS, because according to SUN documentation is is definitely not supposed to be possible. - Dan Naumov On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Pete Frenchpetefre...@ticketswitch.com wrote: The new 2tb disk you buy can very often be

Re: Does this disk/filesystem layout look sane to you?

2009-06-15 Thread Pete French
If this is true, some magic has been done to the FreeBSD port of ZFS, because according to SUN documentation is is definitely not supposed to be possible. I just tried it again to make sure I wasn't imagining things - you can give it a shot yourself using mdconfig to create some drives. It

Re: Does this disk/filesystem layout look sane to you?

2009-06-15 Thread Dan Naumov
Haven't had time to test (stuck at work), but I will trust your word :) Well, this sounds nice and sensible. I am curious though if there have been any numbers regarding how much do actual drive sizes vary in the real world when it comes to disks of same manufacturer/model/size. I guess this

Re: Does this disk/filesystem layout look sane to you?

2009-06-15 Thread Pete French
Haven't had time to test (stuck at work), but I will trust your word :) Well, this sounds nice and sensible. I am curious though if there It's good isn't it ? I just did another test, replacing both drives wuth smaller ones, and you can't then recursively add an even smaller one in :-) If you

Re: Does this disk/filesystem layout look sane to you?

2009-06-15 Thread George Hartzell
Freddie Cash writes: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to have an extra pair (or a dozen) of eyes look this configuration over before I commit to it (tested it in VMWare just in case, it works, so I am considering doing this on real

Re: Does this disk/filesystem layout look sane to you?

2009-06-15 Thread Freddie Cash
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:47 AM, George Hartzell hartz...@alerce.comwrote: Freddie Cash writes: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to have an extra pair (or a dozen) of eyes look this configuration over before I commit to it

Does this disk/filesystem layout look sane to you?

2009-06-14 Thread Dan Naumov
Hello list. I just wanted to have an extra pair (or a dozen) of eyes look this configuration over before I commit to it (tested it in VMWare just in case, it works, so I am considering doing this on real hardware soon). I drew a nice diagram: http://www.pastebin.ca/1460089 Since it doesnt show on

Re: Does this disk/filesystem layout look sane to you?

2009-06-14 Thread Alson van der Meulen
* Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com [2009-06-14 18:17]: I just wanted to have an extra pair (or a dozen) of eyes look this configuration over before I commit to it (tested it in VMWare just in case, it works, so I am considering doing this on real hardware soon). I drew a nice diagram:

Re: Does this disk/filesystem layout look sane to you?

2009-06-14 Thread Freddie Cash
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to have an extra pair (or a dozen) of eyes look this configuration over before I commit to it (tested it in VMWare just in case, it works, so I am considering doing this on real hardware soon). I drew a nice

Re: Does this disk/filesystem layout look sane to you?

2009-06-14 Thread Emil Mikulic
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 07:16:52PM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote: I don't know for sure if it's the same on FreeBSD, but on Solaris, ZFS will disable the onboard disk cache if the vdevs are not whole disks. pjd@ has stated in the past that this doesn't apply to FreeBSD:

Re: Does this disk/filesystem layout look sane to you?

2009-06-14 Thread Freddie Cash
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Emil Mikulic emiku...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 07:16:52PM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote: I don't know for sure if it's the same on FreeBSD, but on Solaris, ZFS will disable the onboard disk cache if the vdevs are not whole disks. pjd@ has