Re: FW: Save the Demon!

2005-02-18 Thread Marwan Burelle
On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 12:55:22PM -0600, Forsberg, Ben wrote: Or maybe the best approach would be to start a religion that fears wavy colored squares. I think that would work. Actually, what I think is this: People are irrational and are deeply affected by marketing. It used to be that

FW: Save the Demon!

2005-02-17 Thread Forsberg, Ben
Mike Jakubik said: Oliver Fromme said: I'm not seeing a problem here. Beastie is not a religious icon, not is it intended to be one. Right -- but it looks like one. And every now and then there are people who are offended by it because of their religious bias. Boo Hoo! Use

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-15 Thread Randy Bush
AFAIK, one of the main points of that logo competition is to do away with anything that could be interpreted in an religious way. this is sick. should it happen, i'll take up the penguin. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-15 Thread Jared Earle
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:46:07 -1000, Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, one of the main points of that logo competition is to do away with anything that could be interpreted in an religious way. this is sick. should it happen, i'll take up the penguin. Wow, if that's your take on

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-14 Thread Oliver Fromme
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh I would not suggest removing Beastie altogether Jesper! That one is too well known, but to add a supplementary angel with the feminine would add to the Package. I am not talking St. Michael here, but rather Lillith, or Mary, or one of Lot's daughters, or

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-14 Thread mark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, one of the main points of that logo competition is to do away with anything that could be interpreted in an religious way. Therefore an image of an Angel would be completely inappropriate. (Why feminine anyway? Beastie has no specific gender, therefore it

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-14 Thread Oliver Fromme
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, one of the main points of that logo competition is to do away with anything that could be interpreted in an religious way. Therefore an image of an Angel would be completely inappropriate. (Why feminine anyway? Beastie

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-14 Thread Jared Earle
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:13:22 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not seeing a problem here. Beastie is not a religious icon, not is it intended to be one. FreeBSD has no connection (afaik) with any religion. What we do have is a well recognised and accepted logo which has

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-14 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi! Oliver wrote: Nobody is proposing to change the existing mascot, so there is no foot shooting. Full ACK - folks, I think it's quite simple: Tux - Linux Mascot Beastie - BSD Mascot Suse Logo, Redhat Logo, Mandrake Logo, NetBSD Logo, FreeBSD Logo, ... None of the logos needs to feature

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-14 Thread Daniel Bond
Hi! Would it be a good idea to make a separate mailing-list for the logo, or using logo-contest.freebsd.org for discussion and logo-suggestions. I feel this is off-topic, and besides; it seems that the decision has already been made to change logo, and keep beastie as mascot. We need a logo that

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-14 Thread Dan Ponte
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 01:28:08PM +0100, Oliver Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED] was witnessed plotting the following conspiracy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh I would not suggest removing Beastie altogether Jesper! That one is too well known, but to add a supplementary angel with the feminine

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-14 Thread Mike Jakubik
Oliver Fromme said: I'm not seeing a problem here. Beastie is not a religious icon, not is it intended to be one. Right -- but it looks like one. And every now and then there are people who are offended by it because of their religious bias. Boo Hoo! Use Linux then, or is the Penguin

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-14 Thread Oliver Fromme
Dan Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oliver Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, one of the main points of that logo competition is to do away with anything that could be interpreted in an religious way. Therefore an image of an Angel would be completely inappropriate. (Why

Logo competition (was: Re: Save the Demon!)

2005-02-14 Thread Oliver Fromme
with that. NetBSD did the very same thing last year, for very similar reasons. (BTW, the subject of this thread is nonsense. There's no need to save the demon because Beastie is not in danger at all; apart from that it's spelled daemon or dæmon.) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme

Re: Logo competition (was: Re: Save the Demon!)

2005-02-14 Thread Dan Ponte
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 10:02:25PM +0100, Oliver Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED] was witnessed plotting the following conspiracy: Mike Jakubik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oliver Fromme said: [...] I'm not seeing a problem here. Beastie is not a religious icon, not is it intended to be

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-13 Thread Robin Schoonover
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:44:01 + Dominic Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 08 February 2005 23:31, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: Can this be true? Are they really looking to kill the FreeBSD demon? This borders on sacrilege. From http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/announce.txt This

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-13 Thread PhysicalChemist
Hmm, I am not a good enough artist to submit the drawing, but perhaps a good supplement piece would be Lover with all the characteristics of the traditional Angel. That way the logos would be compatible and easily accepted as seen togther on a website or box package or CD-disc, not too close

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-13 Thread Jesper Wallin
Heya.. It might will be easily accepted, but yet, it's still a too advanced logo to place to resize and such.. Yet, I prefer the old logo and when I see it, it will always make me (and a LOT of others) to think of FreeBSD.. so change it as much as you want to, the current one will still be the

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-13 Thread PhysicalChemist
Oh I would not suggest removing Beastie altogether Jesper! That one is too well known, but to add a supplementary angel with the feminine would add to the Package. I am not talking St. Michael here, but rather Lillith, or Mary, or one of Lot's daughters, or even Dinah (who was raped), or the

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-10 Thread Godwin Stewart
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:21:32 -0800, Freddie Cash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On February 9, 2005 04:13 pm, Ivan Roth wrote: sorry to ask that but which software could I use to produce vectorial graphics? Quite newbie to freebsd, don't know such free software. Inkscape is supposed to be a very

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-10 Thread Bob Bishop
At 06:32 10/02/2005, Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2005-Feb-10 04:39:13 +0100, Bj?rn K?nig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Magda wrote: It's daemon, not demon. Or even dæmon It's a question whether you are British or American or understand it as a proper name. ;-) My dictionary has both as headwords with

Save the Demon!

2005-02-09 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Can this be true? Are they really looking to kill the FreeBSD demon? This borders on sacrilege. http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/09/1955251from=rss Tom Veldhouse ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 05:31:25PM -0600, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: Can this be true? Are they really looking to kill the FreeBSD demon? No. See replies elsethread. Kris pgpkSkhcv9dQP.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-09 Thread Freddie Cash
On February 8, 2005 03:31 pm, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: Can this be true? Are they really looking to kill the FreeBSD demon? This borders on sacrilege. http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/09/1955251from=rss Read the advocacy archives for posts from Robert Watson and Anthony

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-09 Thread Ivan Roth
Freddie Cash a écrit : On February 8, 2005 03:31 pm, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: Can this be true? Are they really looking to kill the FreeBSD demon? This borders on sacrilege. http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/09/1955251from=rss Read the advocacy archives for posts from

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-09 Thread Freddie Cash
On February 9, 2005 04:13 pm, Ivan Roth wrote: sorry to ask that but which software could I use to produce vectorial graphics? Quite newbie to freebsd, don't know such free software. Inkscape is supposed to be a very nice vector drawing program. It's in the ports tree. Browse around the

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-09 Thread David Magda
On Feb 8, 2005, at 18:31, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: Can this be true? Are they really looking to kill the FreeBSD demon? It's daemon, not demon. :) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable

Re: Save the Demon!

2005-02-09 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2005-Feb-10 04:39:13 +0100, Bj?rn K?nig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Magda wrote: It's daemon, not demon. Or even dæmon It's a question whether you are British or American or understand it as a proper name. ;-) My dictionary has both as headwords with a reference from demon to daemon