Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-08-21 Thread Ian Lepore
On Fri, 2015-08-21 at 08:51 +0200, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > Bezüglich Ian Lepore's Nachricht vom 21.08.2015 00:34 (localtime): > > On Fri, 2015-07-24 at 15:19 +0200, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > >> Bezglich Ian Lepore's Nachricht vom 12.07.2015 17:41 (localtime): > >>> And let's all just hope

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-08-20 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
Bezüglich Ian Lepore's Nachricht vom 21.08.2015 00:34 (localtime): > On Fri, 2015-07-24 at 15:19 +0200, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: >> Bezglich Ian Lepore's Nachricht vom 12.07.2015 17:41 (localtime): >>> And let's all just hope that a week or two of testing is enough when >>> jumping a major piec

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-08-20 Thread Ian Lepore
On Fri, 2015-07-24 at 15:19 +0200, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > Bezglich Ian Lepore's Nachricht vom 12.07.2015 17:41 (localtime): > > And let's all just hope that a week or two of testing is enough when > > jumping a major piece of software forward several years in its > > independent evolution. >

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-24 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
Bezüglich Harald Schmalzbauer's Nachricht vom 24.07.2015 15:19 (localtime): > Bezüglich Ian Lepore's Nachricht vom 12.07.2015 17:41 (localtime): >> And let's all just hope that a week or two of testing is enough when >> jumping a major piece of software forward several years in its >> independent

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-24 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
Bezüglich Ian Lepore's Nachricht vom 12.07.2015 17:41 (localtime): > And let's all just hope that a week or two of testing is enough when > jumping a major piece of software forward several years in its > independent evolution. … > I wonder how many other such things could be lurking in 4.2.8, wai

No, thank *you*! [was: Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?]

2015-07-16 Thread Glen Barber
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:25:31PM -0500, Mark Felder wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015, at 07:57, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > > Xin, Ian: > > Confirmed MFC of ntp 4.2.8p3 and related kernel fix. > > Thanks for your work! > > > > re@: > > Thanks for approving MFC at this timing, before creating releng/10

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-16 Thread Mark Felder
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015, at 07:57, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > Xin, Ian: > Confirmed MFC of ntp 4.2.8p3 and related kernel fix. > Thanks for your work! > > re@: > Thanks for approving MFC at this timing, before creating releng/10.2. > > John: > Congraturations! We have latest stable version of ntp w

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-16 Thread Tomoaki AOKI
Xin, Ian: Confirmed MFC of ntp 4.2.8p3 and related kernel fix. Thanks for your work! re@: Thanks for approving MFC at this timing, before creating releng/10.2. John: Congraturations! We have latest stable version of ntp with 10.2. :-) On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 12:48:49 -0600 Ian Lepore wrote: >

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-12 Thread Ian Lepore
On Mon, 2015-07-13 at 04:31 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2015-Jul-12 09:41:43 -0600, Ian Lepore wrote: > >And let's all just hope that a week or two of testing is enough when > >jumping a major piece of software forward several years in its > >independent evolution. > > Whilst I support John's

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-12 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2015-Jul-13 04:31:40 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: >>The import of 4.2.8p2 several months ago resulted in complete failure of >>timekeeping on all my arm systems. Just last week I tracked it down to >>a kernel bug (which I haven't committed the fix for yet). While the bug >>has been in the kerne

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-12 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2015-Jul-12 09:41:43 -0600, Ian Lepore wrote: >And let's all just hope that a week or two of testing is enough when >jumping a major piece of software forward several years in its >independent evolution. Whilst I support John's desire for NTP to be updated, I also do not think this is the appr

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-12 Thread Ian Lepore
And let's all just hope that a week or two of testing is enough when jumping a major piece of software forward several years in its independent evolution. The import of 4.2.8p2 several months ago resulted in complete failure of timekeeping on all my arm systems. Just last week I tracked it down t

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-12 Thread Tomoaki AOKI
Wow! Thanks for your time and quick response. I'm looking forward to seeing it MFCed. :-) On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:56:26 + Xin LI wrote: > I've spent some time on the MFC, the testing would still take some time > (likely a day or two) and once that's finished I'll ask re@ for approval. > On Sa

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-12 Thread Xin LI
I've spent some time on the MFC, the testing would still take some time (likely a day or two) and once that's finished I'll ask re@ for approval. On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 11:44 PM Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > As I already mentioned in another post, head has 4.2.8 p3 in-tree. > > So the answer should be M

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-12 Thread Matt Smith
On Jul 11 23:22, Chris Nehren wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 09:58:11 +1000, John Marshall wrote: It's me again with my annual NTP whinge. The answer to the perennial "will release $foo ship with old / insecure / otherwise deficient $bar?" is still "install $bar from ports". I completely ag

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-11 Thread Tomoaki AOKI
As I already mentioned in another post, head has 4.2.8 p3 in-tree. So the answer should be MFC before creation of releng/10.2 is planned or not. On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 15:04:43 +1000 Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2015-Jul-11 23:22:56 -0400, Chris Nehren > wrote: > >On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 09:58:11 +

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-11 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2015-Jul-11 23:22:56 -0400, Chris Nehren wrote: >On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 09:58:11 +1000, John Marshall wrote: >> It's me again with my annual NTP whinge. > >The answer to the perennial "will release $foo ship with old / insecure >/ otherwise deficient $bar?" is still "install $bar from ports".

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-11 Thread Chris Nehren
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 09:58:11 +1000, John Marshall wrote: > It's me again with my annual NTP whinge. The answer to the perennial "will release $foo ship with old / insecure / otherwise deficient $bar?" is still "install $bar from ports". -- Chris Nehren ___

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-10 Thread Tomoaki AOKI
Hi As head already has 4.2.8 p3 in tree, MFCing this before BETA2 would be nice because... *At least, authorized open stratum 1 by NICT supports only 4.2.6 or later for configuration line (in ntp.conf) like below. pool ntp.nict.jp *This type of configuration is NOT supported by 4

Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-10 Thread Jamie Landeg-Jones
John Marshall wrote: > I also note that phk@ was working on an ntp client which he hoped to > offer as a replacement but that is presumably not ready yet. I also > note that we have current versions of ntp available in ports; but I'm > talking about what we ship in the base system. I realise yo

Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP?

2015-07-10 Thread John Marshall
It's me again with my annual NTP whinge. https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2013-October/075580.html https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2014-September/079830.html Here we are at the start of another release cycle and 10-STABLE still includes (patched) ntp 4.2.4p8 s