Re: swap space issues

2020-07-13 Thread Chris
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 00:45:36 -0500 Scott Bennett benn...@sdf.org said Don Wilde wrote: > > On 7/11/20 11:28 PM, Scott Bennett via freebsd-stable wrote: > > I have read this entire thread to date with growing dismay, and I > > thank Donald Wilde for reporting his ongoing troubles,

Re: swap space issues

2020-07-12 Thread Scott Bennett via freebsd-stable
Don Wilde wrote: > > On 7/11/20 11:28 PM, Scott Bennett via freebsd-stable wrote: > > I have read this entire thread to date with growing dismay, and I > > thank Donald Wilde for reporting his ongoing troubles, although they > > spoil my hopes that the kernel's memory management bugs that

Re: swap space issues

2020-07-12 Thread Don Wilde
On 7/12/20 12:39 PM, Jonathan Chen wrote: [snip] With synth you can reduce the number of workers to just "1" (ie: Number_of_builders=1), if you just want your ports-build to complete without any stress. However, one of the reasons why I use synth is _because_ of the stress it can place on my

Re: swap space issues

2020-07-12 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 at 02:24, Don Wilde wrote: > On 7/11/20 11:28 PM, Scott Bennett via freebsd-stable wrote: > > I have read this entire thread to date with growing dismay, and I > > thank Donald Wilde for reporting his ongoing troubles, although they > > spoil my hopes that the kernel's

Re: swap space issues

2020-07-12 Thread Don Wilde
On 7/11/20 11:28 PM, Scott Bennett via freebsd-stable wrote: I have read this entire thread to date with growing dismay, and I thank Donald Wilde for reporting his ongoing troubles, although they spoil my hopes that the kernel's memory management bugs that first became apparent in

Re: swap space issues

2020-07-12 Thread Scott Bennett via freebsd-stable
I have read this entire thread to date with growing dismay, and I thank Donald Wilde for reporting his ongoing troubles, although they spoil my hopes that the kernel's memory management bugs that first became apparent in 11.2-RELEASE (and -STABLE around the same time) were not propagated into

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-30 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2020-Jun-28 12:33:21 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >On 6/28/20, Donald Wilde wrote: >> On 6/27/20, Donald Wilde wrote: >>> 'spinning rust' for a disk. My loader.conf has >>> kern.maxswzone=420 and ccache is fully active and working for both >>> root on tcsh and users on sh. Based on my

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-29 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2020-Jun-29, at 14:12, Donald Wilde wrote: > On 6/29/20, Mark Millard wrote: >> [I'm now subscribed so my messages should go through to >> the list.] >> >> On 2020-Jun-29, at 06:17, Donald Wilde wrote: >> >>> . . . >> >> You report using: >> >> # For possibly insufficient swap/paging

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-29 Thread Donald Wilde
On 6/29/20, Mark Millard wrote: > [I'm now subscribed so my messages should go through to > the list.] > > On 2020-Jun-29, at 06:17, Donald Wilde wrote: > >> [adding maintainers of synth and ccache] >> >> On 6/29/20, Mark Millard wrote: >>> Based on "small arm system" context experiments >>>

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-29 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
[I'm now subscribed so my messages should go through to the list.] On 2020-Jun-29, at 06:17, Donald Wilde wrote: > [adding maintainers of synth and ccache] > > On 6/29/20, Mark Millard wrote: >> Based on "small arm system" context experiments >> mostly . . . >> >> If your console messasges

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-29 Thread Donald Wilde
[adding maintainers of synth and ccache] On 6/29/20, Mark Millard wrote: > Based on "small arm system" context experiments > mostly . . . > > If your console messasges do not include > messages about "swap_pager_getswapspace(...): failed", > then it is unlikely that being out of swap space > is

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-28 Thread Donald Wilde
On 6/28/20, Donald Wilde wrote: > Okay, the post with the attachments was too big, so I canceled it. The > direct copies went out with the archives. > > Here's the one pertinent log file. I'm still examining it. > [snip] Even the log file is too big. Sent the whole thing to the LLVM80 maintainer

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-28 Thread Donald Wilde
[trimming the direct cc:s] On 6/28/20, Donald Wilde wrote: > On 6/28/20, Donald Wilde wrote: >> On 6/27/20, Donald Wilde wrote: >>> On 6/26/20, Ronald Klop wrote: > [snip] [snip] I should have said that this run was done with 3 and 3 in synth. > The first attached tarball was an

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-28 Thread Donald Wilde
On 6/27/20, Donald Wilde wrote: > On 6/26/20, Ronald Klop wrote: >> >> Van: Bob Bishop >> Datum: vrijdag, 26 juni 2020 17:18 >> Aan: Peter Jeremy >> CC: Donald Wilde , freebsd-stable >> >> Onderwerp: Re: swap space issues >>> >&

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-27 Thread Donald Wilde
On 6/26/20, Ronald Klop wrote: > > Van: Bob Bishop > Datum: vrijdag, 26 juni 2020 17:18 > Aan: Peter Jeremy > CC: Donald Wilde , freebsd-stable > > Onderwerp: Re: swap space issues >> >> >> >> > On 26 Jun 2020, at 11:23, Peter Jeremy wrote:

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-26 Thread Ronald Klop
Van: Bob Bishop Datum: vrijdag, 26 juni 2020 17:18 Aan: Peter Jeremy CC: Donald Wilde , freebsd-stable Onderwerp: Re: swap space issues > On 26 Jun 2020, at 11:23, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > On 2020-Jun-25 11:30:31 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >> Here's 'pstat -s' on the i3 (

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-26 Thread Bob Bishop
> On 26 Jun 2020, at 11:23, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > On 2020-Jun-25 11:30:31 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >> Here's 'pstat -s' on the i3 (which registers as cpu HAMMER): >> >> Device 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity >> /dev/ada0s1b 335544320 33554432 0% >>

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-26 Thread Paul Mather
On Jun 26, 2020, at 6:58 AM, Stefan Eßer wrote: > Am 26.06.20 um 12:23 schrieb Peter Jeremy: >> On 2020-Jun-25 11:30:31 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >>> Here's 'pstat -s' on the i3 (which registers as cpu HAMMER): >>> >>> Device 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity >>> /dev/ada0s1b

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-26 Thread Donald Wilde
On 6/26/20, Stefan Eßer wrote: > Am 26.06.20 um 12:23 schrieb Peter Jeremy: >> On 2020-Jun-25 11:30:31 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >>> Here's 'pstat -s' on the i3 (which registers as cpu HAMMER): [snip] > An idea for a better strategy: > > It might be better to use an allocation algorithm that

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-26 Thread Donald Wilde
On 6/25/20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Thursday, 25 June 2020 at 19:31:34 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >> On 6/25/20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >>> On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 23:27:27 -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote, >>> without trimming: >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:30 PM Greg 'groggy'

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-26 Thread Stefan Eßer
Am 26.06.20 um 12:23 schrieb Peter Jeremy: > On 2020-Jun-25 11:30:31 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >> Here's 'pstat -s' on the i3 (which registers as cpu HAMMER): >> >> Device 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity >> /dev/ada0s1b 335544320 33554432 0% >> /dev/ada0s1d

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-26 Thread Donald Wilde
On 6/26/20, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2020-Jun-25 11:30:31 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >>Here's 'pstat -s' on the i3 (which registers as cpu HAMMER): >> >>Device 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity >>/dev/ada0s1b 335544320 33554432 0% >>/dev/ada0s1d 335544320

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-26 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2020-Jun-25 11:30:31 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >Here's 'pstat -s' on the i3 (which registers as cpu HAMMER): > >Device 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity >/dev/ada0s1b 335544320 33554432 0% >/dev/ada0s1d 335544320 33554432 0% >Total

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-25 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Thursday, 25 June 2020 at 19:31:34 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: > On 6/25/20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 23:27:27 -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote, >> without trimming: >> >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:30 PM Greg 'groggy' Lehey >>> wrote: >> >>> gpart(8) works just

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-25 Thread Donald Wilde
On 6/25/20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 23:27:27 -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote, > without trimming: > >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:30 PM Greg 'groggy' Lehey >> wrote: > >> gpart(8) works just fine on MBR drives and partitions/slices and has a >> much >> friendlier

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-25 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 23:27:27 -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote, without trimming: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:30 PM Greg 'groggy' Lehey > wrote: > >> On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 20:34:24 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >>> On 6/24/20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Wednesday, 24 June 2020

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-25 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday, 26 June 2020 at 1:55:29 +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > 26.06.2020 1:30, Donald Wilde wrote: > >> Here's 'pstat -s' on the i3 (which registers as cpu HAMMER): >> >> Device 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity >> /dev/ada0s1b 335544320 33554432 0% >>

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-25 Thread Eugene Grosbein
26.06.2020 1:30, Donald Wilde wrote: > Here's 'pstat -s' on the i3 (which registers as cpu HAMMER): > > Device 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity > /dev/ada0s1b 335544320 33554432 0% > /dev/ada0s1d 335544320 33554432 0% > Total67108864

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-25 Thread Donald Wilde
On 6/25/20, Paul Mather wrote: > On Jun 24, 2020, at 11:34 PM, Donald Wilde wrote: > > > I think I've missed in this thread where you said which FreeBSD arch you are > running: is it FreeBSD/amd64 or FreeBSD/i386? (With an "old" machine, 4 GB > RAM, and an install still using MBR, it could

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-25 Thread Paul Mather
On Jun 24, 2020, at 11:34 PM, Donald Wilde wrote: > Meant that I upgraded from 12.1-RELEASE to 12-STABLE. When I > configured the -RELEASE install, I manually messed with the MBR disk > partitions. This is nominally a half-TB HDD which showed up as a total > of 446 G available (IIRC, gpart

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-25 Thread Eugene Grosbein
25.06.2020 18:42, Donald Wilde wrote: > Thanks, Kevin! My laptop's BIOS is old enough that it balked when I > tried to boot from a GPT setup of 12.1R. One Of These Days I'll fix > that but the MBR works and I needed to move on. > > We'll get there! :D gpart is not for GPT, it is for "GEOM

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-25 Thread Donald Wilde
On 6/25/20, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 4:42 AM Donald Wilde wrote: > >> On 6/24/20, Kevin Oberman wrote: >> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:30 PM Greg 'groggy' Lehey >> > wrote: >> > >> >> On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 20:34:24 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >> >> > On 6/24/20,

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-25 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 4:42 AM Donald Wilde wrote: > On 6/24/20, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:30 PM Greg 'groggy' Lehey > > wrote: > > > >> On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 20:34:24 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: > >> > On 6/24/20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >> >> On

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-25 Thread Donald Wilde
On 6/24/20, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:30 PM Greg 'groggy' Lehey > wrote: > >> On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 20:34:24 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >> > On 6/24/20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 18:51:04 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >> >>> On

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-25 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:30 PM Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 20:34:24 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: > > On 6/24/20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >> On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 18:51:04 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: > >>> On 6/24/20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-24 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 20:34:24 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: > On 6/24/20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 18:51:04 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >>> On 6/24/20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 9:36:23 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-24 Thread Donald Wilde
On 6/24/20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 18:51:04 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >> On 6/24/20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >>> On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 9:36:23 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: All, I recently upgraded my 12-STABLE system to the latest,

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-24 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 18:51:04 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: > On 6/24/20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 9:36:23 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> I recently upgraded my 12-STABLE system to the latest, and now my >>> swap subsystems aren't working. I

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-24 Thread Donald Wilde
On 6/24/20, Donald Wilde wrote: > On 6/24/20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 9:36:23 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> I recently upgraded my 12-STABLE system to the latest, and now my >>> swap subsystems aren't working. I deliberately set up a 40GB >>>

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-24 Thread Donald Wilde
On 6/24/20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 9:36:23 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: >> All, >> >> I recently upgraded my 12-STABLE system to the latest, and now my >> swap subsystems aren't working. I deliberately set up a 40GB >> partition for swap, and when I do 'top -t'

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-24 Thread Donald Wilde
On 6/24/20, Donald Wilde wrote: > All, > > I recently upgraded my 12-STABLE system to the latest, and now my swap > subsystems aren't working. I deliberately set up a 40GB partition for > swap, and when I do 'top -t' I am only seeing 7906M total. > > When using synth, it shows swap usage of < 2%,

Re: swap space issues

2020-06-24 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 at 9:36:23 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote: > All, > > I recently upgraded my 12-STABLE system to the latest, and now my > swap subsystems aren't working. I deliberately set up a 40GB > partition for swap, and when I do 'top -t' I am only seeing 7906M > total. That looks

swap space issues

2020-06-24 Thread Donald Wilde
All, I recently upgraded my 12-STABLE system to the latest, and now my swap subsystems aren't working. I deliberately set up a 40GB partition for swap, and when I do 'top -t' I am only seeing 7906M total. When using synth, it shows swap usage of < 2%, but then it gives the 'out of swap'