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Thanks in advance
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GEOM_MIRROR: Device b500: provider ad4s1 activated.
GEOM_MIRROR: Device b500: provider mirror/b500 launched.
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/b500a
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GMIRROR changes in the commitlogs since 9/1, and
it claims to be (mostly) cosmetic.
Obviously not!
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taken to actually test the change and detect this once
it was put in? All of 30 seconds?
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On Sat, Sep 09, 2006 at 04:04:40PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Karl Denninger wrote:
Yeah, -STABLE is what you should run if you want stable code, right?
C'mon guys. This sort of thing belies a total lack of concern when
changes are MFC'd into production branches
with gives you no other real option than to
run the -STABLE track.
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On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 03:21:33PM +, Patrick J Okui wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, Karl Denninger wrote:
Once the -RELEASE branch is taken, code updates there STOP.
I take it you haven't read the text in the handbook that has been
linked to by a few posters.
You can track changes
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 02:36:31PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 01:13:31PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 03:21:33PM +, Patrick J Okui wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, Karl Denninger wrote:
Once the -RELEASE branch is taken, code updates
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 10:15:20PM +0300, Reko Turja wrote:
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Yes it is, in the general case; in any event if you track RELENG_6_1
you will
get no bug fixes in general - security
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Eh? T?
As in Tag, which is the syntax that acutally shows up in the CVS
directory under the source tree.
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On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 09:06:15AM +0200, Bj?rn K?nig wrote:
Karl Denninger schrieb:
This is not cool folks.
I think you misunderstood what -STABLE means. (Or maybe I do?)
-STABLE is still a development branch without guarantee of a stable and
working operating system. -STABLE
some inappropriate comments -
not change functionality in a way that could potentially cause this sort
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On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 04:46:05PM +0200, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote:
On Sat, Sep 09, 2006 at 12:38:13PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
This is not cool folks.
I'm really sorry for the breakage. I'm trying to treat -STABLE very
gently, unfortunately this time I made a mistake.
(elided
to a uniprocessor or SMP kernel - it is reliably hosed in both
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hundreds of deployed instances,
and it is in no way obsolete or something I intend to stop supporting.
I know serial I/O is passe for many, but some of us have applications that
actually require it, and can't rationally be moved to anything else due
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On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 12:08:22PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 10:19:25AM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
Hi folks;
Ok, one of my pet peeves is coming around to bite me again.
{snip}
I know serial I/O is passe for many, but some of us have applications
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 05:04:41PM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote:
On 10/5/06, Karl Denninger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
I know serial I/O is passe for many, but some of us have applications
that
actually require it, and can't rationally be moved to anything else due
to external hardware
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 04:04:47PM -0500, Brooks Davis wrote:
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 03:21:44PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
FreeBSD's USB support has always been somewhat deficient. For example,
apcupsd can't talk to their UPSs over the USB bus, even though the software
itself knows
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 12:22:09AM +0300, Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote:
Hello!
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Karl Denninger wrote:
The problem that is nailing me particularly hard right now is the second
one
- I have embedded control systems that I speak to over a RS-232 interface
(the devices
What's your config like? I hooked the USB back up and it identified, but
when I told it to use USB and specified the device, it panics (the software,
not the machine) with a complaint about not being able to talk to the UPS.
Works perfectly on a serial port...
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On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 01:10:37AM -0400, Matt Emmerton wrote:
Karl Denninger wrote:
So. I have an application that requires six serial ports, and would
like ten. 5.x FreeBSD versions are being EOL'd per the announcement,
forcing me to move to 6.x. The Comtrol driver for the Smart
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 02:25:31PM +0100, Andrew Gordon wrote:
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Karl Denninger wrote:
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 05:04:41PM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote:
I have used USB-to-serial converters with no problem. All the control
signals (at least the ones my applications need
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 02:27:21PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote:
At 01:53 PM 10/6/2006, Karl Denninger wrote:
Now, where the problem comes in is that THIS line doesn't reference an
attached port. That sucks, but might not be hard to fix:
If there is just one USB *serial* device
I have a commercial spam-blocking tool that runs on FreeBSD which can do
this (along with interdicting all your spam for you.)
Its not freeware tho - its a product.
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On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 10:45:38AM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote:
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I think there may be another option.
Here's the boot message, with just USB related things:
usb0: Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-A on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 04:14:44PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote:
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Uh, if you unplug a working serial device's USB cable, you've got bigger
problems :)
So you think? USB is hotplug, and it doesn't have to be a port in use
that you're unplugging.
I
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 06:29:43PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
On Thursday 05 October 2006 16:21, Karl Denninger wrote:
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 12:08:22PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 10:19:25AM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
Hi folks;
Ok, one of my pet
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This is a major sore spot, and is not a trivial issue by any means. Disk
I/O is arguably THE major thing that must work right for any operating
system to be usable.
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sure WHAT codeset I can CVSUP and
test to have a decent shot at getting a FULLY working ATA/gmirror
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and copies EVERYTHING.
There are other options but you need to be more specific as to what you
mean by similar.
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On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 03:51:13PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote:
At 03:26 PM 21/07/2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
Ok, Robert, but then here's the question
How come the ATA code which was very stable in 4.x was screwed with in a
production release, breaking it, with no path backwards
shell script.
Used this all the time to push new OS versions out to the cluster (a
couple of dozen machines) when I was done testing them as well as
adding new machines to the existing cluster as demand warranted.
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On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 04:12:47PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 14:26 -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
Ok, Robert, but then here's the question
How come the ATA code which was very stable in 4.x was screwed with in a
production release, breaking it, with no path
Yep. Pretty much what I used to do with my ISP.
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 12:45:03AM +0100, Robert Watson wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
ATA-NG (Soren's new code) is not (from what I understand) in the 5.x
codebase. One bone of contention is that apparently it IS in -HEAD, but
there are no plans to MFC it to 5.x
On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 01:38:40AM +0100, Robert Watson wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
If Soren BELIEVES (2) is the case, I'll test against -BETA1, IF I can
have confirmation that -BETA1 has the ATA-NG code in it.
Its trivially easy for me to reproduce this problem
WORSE than 5.3-RELEASE in that it appears not only
to detach the disk, but then to go on to whine mightily about other things
(I have no idea whether I've taken a data corruption hit at this point or
not.)
That didn't take long to verify
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 02:40:09PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
It is definitely NOT fixed in 6.0-BETA1
Within SECONDS of starting a buildworld after the provider rebuild
completed, I got this...
GEOM_MIRROR: Device boot: provider ad4s1 detected.
GEOM_MIRROR: Device boot: rebuilding
On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 07:53:00PM -0700, Danny Howard wrote:
On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 02:53:57PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
[...]
Note carefully from this that there is NO ERROR INDICATION AS TO WHY THE
DISK DETACHED!
At least with the 5.x problems you'd SEE an error before it went
- but as soon as I
stick a THIRD disk on via the PCI bus on that card and do a make
buildworld (on 5.4), BOOM!
Pretty clearly, this is not a disk problem - it is some kind of (timing?)
issue with the SII chipset on the PCI bus and FreeBSD's support for it.
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which just happens to be the chipset that is on basically
ALL the plain-jane PCI SATA cards out there, no matter who makes them.
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On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 05:43:34AM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote:
On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 09:01:36PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
Done.
Note that the Bustek and Adaptec cards which exhibit the problem BOTH
identify the same (on two different machines) as SII 3112 boards, and
BOTH fail
That's encouraging...
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Those cards all have (and appear to require) PCI-64 (double-connector) bus
plug-ins. For those of us with single PCI bus slots (e.g. those of us who
don't have Opterons), that simply won't work unless I'm missing something.
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On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 03:04:09PM +0100, Robert Watson wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
PR being filed now.
When you've filed the PR and get a PR# receipt back, please forward me
the PR# receipt.
FYI, your spam filter thinks every message I send you as spam. It's
issue with serializing I/O between the two channels which would imply
that it could be fixed (since it apparently was once before.)
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On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 07:58:20PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote:
On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 11:00:55PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
Should not there be an EXPLICIT note in the release notes for hardware that
this chipset WILL NOT WORK PROPERLY?
It does seem to work for many users, or there would
was incorrect. It still fails - just takes longer (and more load).
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On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 11:36:18AM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote:
At 11:22 AM 28/07/2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
Got a 3Ware controller.
6.0-Beta1 is now stable with gmirror.
Just curious, why use gmirror with a 3ware ? Why not just use the native
RAID features of the card ? They work very
and in the man pages, and found
nothing thus far. Or is hot plug/unplug simply not supported with this
board/driver set?
Thanks.
Running:
FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #11: Fri Apr 8 09:48:24 CDT 2005 [EMAIL
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On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 04:31:40PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote:
At 04:19 PM 28/07/2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
Is there a control program for the twe driver devices, and/or an option
somewhere I'm missing? I've looked around and in the man pages, and found
nothing thus far. Or is hot plug/unplug
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 05:42:50PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 04:31:40PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote:
At 04:19 PM 28/07/2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
Is there a control program for the twe driver devices, and/or an option
somewhere I'm missing? I've looked around
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 04:03:04PM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote:
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 05:45:57PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 05:42:50PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 04:31:40PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote:
At 04:19 PM 28/07/2005, Karl
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Same disks, same system, same load, no problems.
Smartmontools declared all my disks as perfectly healthy in my case, and has
for several others as well
YMMV.
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 04:46:18AM +0200, Matthias Buelow wrote:
Karl Denninger wrote:
SII chipsets were ok in 4.x, but the newer ATA code broke badly with them.
I've had a PR open on this since February, and many others have reported
similar issues. The problems still exist in the 6.x-BETA
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 08:15:50AM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote:
At 10:46 PM 09/08/2005, Matthias Buelow wrote:
Karl Denninger wrote:
SII chipsets were ok in 4.x, but the newer ATA code broke badly with them.
I've had a PR open on this since February, and many others have reported
similar
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 09:51:03AM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote:
At 09:31 AM 10/08/2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
Also, I've yet to see a developer commit on the list that they WILL fix it
if
such a controller board is forthcoming (and will return the board when
they're
done) - I've got two
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 07:24:01PM +0200, S?ren Schmidt wrote:
On 10/08/2005, at 17:44, Scot Hetzel wrote:
On 8/10/05, Karl Denninger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 09:51:03AM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote:
At 09:31 AM 10/08/2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
Also, I've yet
24th.
Again, happy to give you SSH access to THIS SPECIFIC MACHINE if it will
work towards getting this resolved.
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On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 12:46:04AM +0200, S?ren Schmidt wrote:
On 10/08/2005, at 22:51, Karl Denninger wrote:
This is the subject of the PR I filed back in February.
Again, if you want either a controller shipped to you OR access to a
development machine (e.g. ssh in and play) which has
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 09:47:38PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote:
Karl Denninger wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 12:46:04AM +0200, S?ren Schmidt wrote:
[ ... ]
I've already gone WAY out of my way to try to support the sii3112,
and I'm not inclined to waste more of my precious spare time
from
either the console or the debugger (e.g. panic from the debugger fails) -
it just freezes, requiring a power cycle.
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version 5.33 and it works. You might want to upgrade to
5.33.
Also, the 'N' is not the unit #, but the port (drive) #.
Ah. old version, got it.
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supply becomes a $200 one once the
warranty ends - good for them, not good for you.
Other than that, I've been pretty happy with their stuff. Sure beats a lot
of other PC vendors out there in terms of reliability, heat management,
BIOS updates, etc.
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, as
performance will be much better.
I would not use mysql for this - but that's my personal preference coming
through here. I believe Postgresql has far better data integrity in a
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Is there any intent to backport that into -STABLE?
How ugly would that be to do?
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Tried to apply that, and got a mess.
Did you put that on RELENG_6 cleanly? It drops a bunch of files in the top
level SRC directory (NOT under /sys!) if applied against /usr/src; it
appears to apply cleanly but a kernel build subsequent to that fails.
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it in a
compat directory, then add that to the ldconfig set.
I am still running a whole host of application binaries (indeed, probably
80% of them) on 4.x code.
No problems so far.
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if that helps,
in an attempt to figure out where its getting pissed off.
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drama -
but once they activate, then the problems begin anew.
This occurs on both an Adaptec and Bustek SATA adapters.
Ideas? Should I send-pr this one?
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taking write errors, but not the
onboard motherboard controllers on two systems I have here. The PCI cards,
however, do it reliably. These boards worked well under 4.x, and so for me
anyway 5.x is a step backward in this regard.
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from trying the same
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On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 11:40:48PM -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
1.42: When resubmitting a timed out request, reset donecount.
1.41: Reset timeout when we are back from interrupt.
1.40: Correct logical error, result was that retries wasn't
machine into a configuration that will make
looking into this further possible - in the meantime until its sorted out
you might want to think about rolling back this one for RELENG_5.
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 12:50:31AM -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
245a252
request-donecount = 0;
Without the last delta the requeue doesn't happen at all.
So you're saying that this change:
1.42: When resubmitting a timed out
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 12:07:22PM -0500, Jim Trigg wrote:
On Wed, March 30, 2005 12:43 am, Karl Denninger said:
Here's the diff and some thoughts
[snip, including first diff]
241,243c244,249
/* if reinit succeeded and retries still permit, reinject request
On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 11:43:18PM -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:
Here's the diff and some thoughts
Fs:/usr/src/sys/dev/ata cvs diff -r 1.32.2.5 ata-queue.c
Index: ata-queue.c
===
RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/sys/dev/ata/ata
Nevermind on my update - somehow cvs got the wrong tag (5.3-RELEASE) on my
sandbox build.
Doing it again :)
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will not have a final determination on this until late tomorrow,
but at first blush pulling the first delta appears to fix the stability
issue.
Further update tomorrow as soon as I have it
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:02:20PM -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
Removing the FIRST delta, which is:
218a219,221
if (!dumping)
callout_reset(request-callout, request-timeout * hz,
(timeout_t
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:19:13PM -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
What do you expect the patch to do, given that removing the delta
appears to fix the instability problem?
I expect the patch to properly stop the callout.
Ok, so the implication
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 02:16:11PM -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
Would you prefer me to validate that path before or after I attempt to
validate that removing the first delta fixes the crashes on my
production machine? (Reason for the question
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:02:20PM -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
Removing the FIRST delta, which is:
218a219,221
if (!dumping)
callout_reset(request-callout, request-timeout * hz,
(timeout_t
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:06:08AM -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:02:20PM -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
Removing the FIRST delta, which is:
218a219,221
if (!dumping)
callout_reset(request-callout
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 08:25:04PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:
This patch appears to be safe.
I have about 2 hours on the production machine right now post-rebuild (which
had to complete first) with the added callout_drain in, have taken two DMA
WRITE retries, and have not yet seen any
It appears that this commit is good.
Testing has been limited so far, but I've been unable to get it to misbehave.
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Is there any plan to MFC this?
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work on the 5.x branch - there's nothing magical
that's changed enough to cause trouble with it that I can see.
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way.
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and
time wasted.
Neither should be considered accepted - to anyone.
Most colo providers are worthless in this regard. They just don't get it.
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 12:06:11AM -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 12:50:31AM -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Karl Denninger wrote:
245a252
request-donecount = 0;
Without the last delta the requeue doesn't happen at all.
So
the original disk and all your
data.
I've used this method before myself; it requires care to make sure you put
the right filesystem in the right place, but its not difficult. It is, in
fact, how I upgraded from 4.x to 5.x myself a few months ago.
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a serial consolve with FreeBSD, though I see the phrase crop
up a lot.
-pcf.
How do you get to the KVM access? If you have to tell someone to do a
thing, its worthless.
If you can directly get to the KVM (remotely), e.g. via some application -
then its ok.
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the time required to
restore. The high-capacity tape makers are no longer necessarily the
option of choice for this necessary function.
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