Re: 9.3 to 11.1 upgrade
> Generally (and previously) the advice is to go via the next major version so > you should go: > > 9.3 -> 10.x -> 11.x not 9.3 -> 11.x Exactelly what I want to avoid. People successfuly upgraded, without branch 10. Thanks a lot. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
9.3 to 11.1 upgrade
Is it possible, like 9.3 to 11.0 ? Binary. I have a box, which has no reliable hardware, and would like to avoid multiple disk spin. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
asus m5a97 problem
Dear all! After mobo battery failed, being replaced, I got strange hwpstate err 6 problem. Qool and quiet, c1e and c6 are enabled. When they are, I see this error. It makes no problem at all, but I dislike to se it in console. Turning q'n'q off, it is gone. I found a thread, but seems it was solved just having HPC off. Still 9.3. I plan to upgrade to 11 directly, but just don't right now. Best regards. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: update from 9.3 to 11.0
> Index: head/usr.sbin/freebsd-update/freebsd-update.sh
> ===
> --- head/usr.sbin/freebsd-update/freebsd-update.sh (revision 279900)
> +++ head/usr.sbin/freebsd-update/freebsd-update.sh (revision 279901)
> @@ -1231,7 +1231,7 @@ fetch_metadata_sanity () {
># Some aliases to save space later: ${P} is a character which can
># appear in a path; ${M} is the four numeric metadata fields; and
># ${H} is a sha256 hash.
> - P="[-+./:=%@_[~[:alnum:]]"
> + P="[-+./:=,%@_[~[:alnum:]]"
>M="[0-9]+\|[0-9]+\|[0-9]+\|[0-9]+"
>H="[0-9a-f]{64}"
Sorry for late reply, quite busy this days.
This "comma" makes the change in the line. I hope
it would be enough to upgrade streight to 11.0.
I assume there are steps to change etc files and
compiler also.
Whenever I upgarade, I have to solve nvidia driver
version needed for it, and some other smaller tasks.
On laptop, it goes like compiling x things for intel
2000. Not an easy job, and unnerving too.
Best regards
Zoran
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update from 9.3 to 11.0
I would like to know what experience and tips people on this list have regarding this update. Doug Hardie made it successfully. To my eyes, it is the mere change of one charracter in the file. I'm a bit late due to lack of time to do the task. Best regards all Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: freebsd-update from 9.3 to 11.0
> The patch (correctly applied by hand) worked fine. The update completed and > the server is running 11.0-BETA4. I have sources on both boxen. When time comes, I will add a patch. Is it the same way to get a patch like " patch < something"? You saved me from installing from the start, which I dislike a lot. Not right now. I will wait for a release. If I do it more freq, my nodes would stop working, since they are not new (read old). Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: freebsd-update from 9.3 to 11.0
> However, that patch works and I am now able to upgrade to 11.0-BETA4. Would you continue informing us with the end result of your procedure. Personally, I will go the same way on my home nodes. I'm sure latter RCs would be more friendly regarding this upgrade. Since I have desktop and laptop, I'm not able to play and miss. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
unknown file
Someone knows what "TsxKxSc0ySU" file is? This shows up in graphical mode, from time to time, today twice, in user directory. Binary, just over 5 kb. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: unknown file
> >Someone knows what "TsxKxSc0ySU" file is? > > A google search turns up a youtube clip ID. Other that that, my guess is > that it's some sort of malware. It's nothing related to FreeBSD. Yep. It is an index page of swimming site totalimmersion. They recently changed it to something that contained video. Browser is uzbl. When I load the page, I see the file in my user space. Thanks all for help. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: fat32 question
> Zoran, re Brandon's "won't understand it any more." > Dont despair & discard stick, you can rebuild the MBR: man fdisk > from memory start with fdisk -i -B /dev/da0 First, thanks all for replies! After a bit of puzzling, I found that the problem was every Transcend usb stick I have. They are all fine for mundane tasks and newfs_msdos makes it able to work on freebsd. My music player was picky and has something to say against. When I inserted old and forgoten Verbatim drive, without making f32, it presented itself and files were ready to play. Unbelievable. Yep, I did fdisk step after I posted the question. No go on Transcend. Might be hardware incompatibility or else. Btw, I always do just newfs on back up usb disks and never had any problem, so far, on freebsd. Once again, thank you for help. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
fat32 question
I have a device to which I'd like to connect otg cable and insert 16gb usb stick. Tried "newfs_msdos -F32 /dev/da0". Mounted, copied files. The device does not see the file system at all. Any idea what to do further? Another option might be extfs. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
pkg clean question
Amd64, 9.3. Updated few times, packages also. At first I found on laptop that /var directory was at 102%. Using pkg clean i removed about 400mb of cache packages from /var/cache/pkg. Tried to clean desktop cache and the out- put of the command was nothing to do. I see about 400 mb of files in the cache directory. Is it safe to remove them by the hand? Best regards all Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkg clean question
Use pkg clean -ay to delete all cached packages, not just the ones that are no longer current or provided by the upstream repository. Thanks. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
nvidia-driver problem after upgrade
As the subject says, I finally found the way to upgrade to 9.2 and recent packages using pkg. Now I lost graphics, since nvidia driver fails to handle screen. If I remove xorg.conf, x starts up, but I have no input device available. It is nvidia 520, tried both 319.32 and 304.88 drivers. Error: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module Failing initialization of X screen 0 Fatal server error: no screens found Anya idea? I made a custom kernel, without 32 bit support and no linux, which might be a problem. I see nvidia.ko in modules directory. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
pkg2ng not making pkg.bak dir after upgrade
After a while, I found that I messed something. Upgraded the system from 9.1 to 9.2 with freebsd-update. Installed pkg. Used pkg2ng. It did some work, but made no /var/db/pkg.bak directory at all. Now, I could see either pkg version output just as pkg_version. So, it was not converted to pkg system. Update and upgrade processes went fine to my tired eyes. But, it was not fine, since I still use old packages, with downloaded txz files in /var/cache/pkg/All. pkg info pkg pkg-1.1.4_7 uname -a FreeBSD faust 9.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE #3: Sat Oct 12 17:30:28 CEST 2013 root@faust:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NEWKERN amd64 whereis pkg2ng pkg2ng: /usr/local/sbin/pkg2ng I use tcsh, if it matters. Any idea how to go further. I could remove all apps and install from the start, but it is interesting to find the solution. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
pkg problem
I binary upgraded to 9.2 and installed pkg, made pkg2ng. Finally I did pkg update and pkg upgrade. Now, I have old binaries, instead of new ones. I tried to issue freebsd-update install the last time and it refused to do anything, since there is nothing to install. What I missed in this upgrade process? I set server to 96.47.72.120, if it matters. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkg problem
Sorry to post twice, but I found txz files on my local filesystem in /var/cache/pkg/All. So far, I see no way to upgrade from there. I assume I could remove some db, make new one and point pkg to packagesite? Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkg problem
Upgraded to FreeBSD 9.2 from what version? If it was anything 9.x then
you would not necessarily have replaced any of the ports previously
installed.
From 9.1 release. I see a lot of apps having newer versions.
If you were upgrading from some earlier version of FreeBSD then you'ld
need to reinstall all your ports with stuff compiled for 9.x. You can
do that by:
pkg install -f
I might try -f flag. After getting txz files, I found them
in /var/cache/pkg/All directory. None of them installed. So,
I still have old packages. They work, but it is not what was
intended.
I will repeat: first I installed pkg. Then issued pkg2ng. I see
no difference in db dir. I changed server address to numerical
(96.47.72.120). Then I used pkg update to have it fresh. Last,
pkg upgrade. It downloaded and lot more. I went further, with
kernel recompile. After reboot, I see older apps, from 9.1. Ones
for 9.2 are in before mentioned directory.
Why does freebsd-update come into this? That's for updating the base
system. It won't do anything to affect your ports directly.
I'm aware of that. But, it was a step in one of manuals (or manuals).
While 96.47.72.120 is the IP number of the pkgrepo test server, the
recommended way to use it is via this PACKAGESITE URL:
http://pkg-test.freebsd.org/pkg-test-${ABI}/latest
Does not work for me. I get nothing with this line in pkg.conf.
To say again, I have files on my node, but they do not install.
I messed something, but cannot find out what it is.
Does someone have success with pkg-test in conf file?
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Re: ports binary upgrade question for 9.2
You don't have to recompile all ports when switching to a new _minor_ version. Minor versions are binary compatible. So in this case you don't have to do anything. Thanks for answer! I'm aware of compatibility. However, I'd like to have it all fresh, especially for luakit. I cannot find the server, to put the name in conf file for pkg. Txz packages are probably not ready yet. Further, reading manual, I assume portmaster to be happy to upgrade binary. I used it to install ports, recompiling it, due the lack of bin files for 9.1. -P should recompile only if it cannot find binary file. -PP would avoid any compiling whatever happens. To my understanding. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ports binary upgrade question for 9.2
Due to trip to make, I will have to wait few days to upgrade my nodes to 9.2 release. But, I'd like to learn the easiest way to handle ports. Thanks to Matthew Seaman, I will try out txz repos, when I find the correct address for that. Otherwise, I assume portmaster might do the job equally well. Reading manual, I guess flags like -P -a or -PP -a are made to fit? Next to think would be to recompile some ports on lap- top, having intel 3000 graphics. I did it with kms lines in make.conf, for 9.1. Does it change in new release? Compiling all ports was long and tedious task and I want to avoid it now. My best bet would be to binary upgrade and recompile just what I have to. Best regards all. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: dhclient failure with Realtek 8111E Ethernet on new MSI
One last shot in the dark: what if you reboot the router in front of the node in question? Sometimes it was surprised, when managing different mac addresses on the same adapter. I might be missing some parts, but did the mobo work before? Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
9.2 or 10.0 and txz packages
Is there a plan to have repo for files, used by pkgng on upcomming releases? Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
binary upgrade from 9.1 to 9.2
I assume freebsd-update, mergemaster and pkgng would do the job. Is there any change for upcoming release? Especially for kms nodes, which needed to be compiled separately to have x working. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wireless mouse on 9.1
Time to report back what I got as a wireless mouse. It is logitech m570, trackball. Works fine. I just need some time to adapt to. Thanks all for answers Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
wireless mouse on 9.1
I had usb switch to share keyboard and mouse for two nodes, of which freebsd worked flawlessly, but openbsd disconnected quite often and made a lot of antics in X. After all, I dismembered the configuration and now I have 2 kb-s and 2 mice. A lot of wires on the table. The plan would be to get not too expensive wireless mouse for freebsd node. Reading forums I found a lot of people having problem with those kind of mice. Could someone recommend one what is known to work on branch 9? For some reason I prefer logitech. And I assume that usb dongle works on hardware level and does not need anything to work? Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wireless mouse on 9.1
I have a Logitech Trackman wireless trackball. works perfectly. As does my daughter's wireless mouse. Also logitech. Thanks, Chuck! That very mouse is recommended to me from old school guys. I would probably get something like m185 or m525 if on sale. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wireless mouse on 9.1
Normally yes, wireless mice are the same driver wise. Are both machines always on? Have you thought of Synergy? Chris If so, I'm fine. :) They are rarelly booted at the same time. Connected to the same monitor also. with wifi mouse, I'll get my space back. Thanks all Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: amdtemp does not find my CPU.
After I installed 9.1 amd64 on node with amd 8120, I was not able to read temperatures out of the box. I fetched source for head module and compiled. And loaded module. Still nothing. I assume my cpu is a bit different. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: amdtemp does not find my CPU.
I've tried all variants, except following stable. I was sure the problem is in amdtemp, not in base. However, hand measurement works just fine. I put my hand behind the node and feel cold air, coming from the fans on fractal design 3000 case. At the moment, compiling luakit port, I experienced full cpu usage. The port was stale, so I picked newer source and got failing application. Nothing to do with temp measurement, but someone might be interesting in low memory consumption and fast browser. Openbsd version works perfect on another box. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
9.1 file content
I'm quite happy to see 9.1 out and want to ask polite and benevolent question: regarding times on the site, are iso and img files the same as 2 weeks ago? To remind noble readers. I installed on my computers what was release at that time and got it up and working perfectly. In other words, is it the same file? Best regards and happy new year Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.1 file content
There are md5 and sha256 sums posted at http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/announce.html for the official release. Just compare them to the sum for the image you downloaded and installed. I can't. That is the trouble. I downloaded an image on the job and set usb stick at now broken hdd. Both files are gone. That is the very reason I ask. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.1 minimal ram requirements
What you are seeing is behind-the-scenes preparation. The release is official when, and only when, a security-signed email is sent to freebsd-annou...@freebsd.org from the Release Engineering team. Yeah, Mark. You're right. Further, I'm right too. What should I install on blank node? Beta? No beta on the site. RC1-3? No RC on the site. 9.0? I need kms at least on laptop. My simple question is: what is the file on the server? Please, no only-when, no wait-for-... I'm might be ignorant in many ways, but I expect freebsd site to content what it reads as a file name. So, do I have installed 9.1 on my desktop and laptop or some alien OS? Do I have to wait more and reinstall from the beginning, when official announcement comes? To be clear: freebsd is my only OS on computer for many years and I do not argue in any way. I just want to say that silence is not a good kind of communication. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.1 minimal ram requirements
It has happened in the past that even as the release bits were propogating, One Last Big Bug was found and those bits had to be pulled and re-done. It would have looked like you had FreeBSD Release X.Y but you wouldn't have had the final bits that everyone else did. I'm aware of this. I simply did not have alternative. I understand your frustration that this process takes days, and in general the frustration with this particular release -- more than you could possibly believe. However, until we figure out the process that would exist in an ideal world, this is what we have, and so if you need something that will be in 9.1, your options at this moment are: build an install from 9-STABLE; find one of the snapshots (and no, I am not the one to ask, sorry); or wait. I'm not fond of one-size fits all principle. If an image is correct, I'll stick with it, till next treshold. At the moment, I fill relaxed, since both systems work as the best machines I had in my life. As I stated before, I could stand bugs and do not expect perfect system anytime. Freebsd suits me. If I have a problem, I wait or go around, or forget the issue. My bad was that release problem sinchronized with my power surge issue. At any other time, I'd be patient and you'd never hear of me. Sorry, but that's the best I can offer right now. Wrong. You made psychological thing and I could be not worried about state of OS. If this image differs from the final one, I do not care, if they are the same in parts that matter to me. I will upgrade at the next insert. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.1 minimal ram requirements
Seeing 9.1-RELEASE instead 9.1-PRERELASE or 9.1-RC4 is also a bad suprise for me... I assume it does not look like release is the lack of packages. Simply, I installed and compiled from ports. Cannot say if it stands on the site as a decoration, but I have it on desktop and laptop and found it a serious piece of work. The point is that I had to install, since I had had two new computers waiting blank. If no-one has any idea on the subject, I will just remove the line in kernel. Hopes are that old make reinstallkernel KERNCONF... still works. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.1 minimal ram requirements
9.1-RC3 works just fine as well for some weeks :-) When your computers are not production machines I also recommend this to you Zoran to test RC in order to make RELEASE a better product. What you have now is labeled as RELEASE but it is a decoration. The RELEASE will be different from what you have found and installed (I think there are already versions with different tags available). This is really the thing that pushed me away from Linux :-( I removed the line and it booted just fine. To me, 9.1 is probably the best looking release, but it might be due to new hardware. I'n not aware what is going on, regarding release or release. At full speed I support the way devel team does the work. And contrary, the team has to bear with users, who want to know. I had new desktop and new laptop waiting, since power surge killed some devices at my home. And I waited for 3 months. None could say I was impatient. The release image is on the site. And, if you change RC3 to RELEASE in browser, there is even more. Why would serious guys keep those files available, if not for usage? My best guess is that some packages compile made all that fuss. What else might be? Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.1 minimal ram requirements
So, it's fine and recommended to remove ctl device from kernel? I installed from image on the site two weeks ago and consider it release. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.1 minimal ram requirement
Guys, I've heard about some absurd RAM requirements for 9.1, has anybody tested it? I prepared old laptop for something else and tried live cd image out. It took some time to load and I was surprised how slowly it went. Laptop has 128 mb or ram and might be a bit old to compare. I removed hdd and dmesg has shown nothing special. Once booted, it often touched cd drive. I didn't pay attention to ctl device. What could happen if it is moved from kernel? Btw, I write this from another account, since freebsd.org made service unavailable: (reason: 550-5.7.1 Service unavailable; client [89.216.2.35] blocked using b +.barracudacentral.org Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: thinkpad and synaptics
works for me on head, amd64, lenovo ideapad b450: [tiger@laptop]:~%dmesg | grep psm psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model Synaptics Touchpad, device ID 0 [tiger@laptop]:~%grep syn /boot/loader.conf hw.psm.synaptics_support=1 Done that. xorg.conf: Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Done that also. Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver synaptics Option Protocol psm Option Device /dev/psm0 Option SHMConfig on OptionMinSpeed 7 OptionMaxSpeed 9 OptionAccelFactor 0.0015 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection This is not what I did. I put both mouse0 and Touchpad0 into conf file. [tiger@laptop]:~%grep mouse /etc/rc.conf mousechar_start=3 #moused_enable=YES Ah! Ah! I put No and it made pointer frozen. [tiger@laptop]:~%pkg info -x input-s xf86-input-synaptics-1.5.0 X.Org synaptics input driver Done that. Frankly, I'd like to learn exact stept you've taken. One by one. I made all, even stupid tries, and failed without chance to have vertical scroll in any configu- ration. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: thinkpad and synaptics
As first, thanks for answer. Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard Option AutoAddDevices Off EndSection [...] Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection In rc.conf: moused_enable=YES in loader.conf: hw.psm.synaptics_support=1 OK. I know it is writen zillion times and it still does not work for me. It is thinkpad e320, amd64, 9.1, kms. I had a lot of problems regarding fonts and non working vertical scroll on the pad. What I did: put synaptics_support run moused changed xorg.conf in a million ways This xorg.conf is similar to mine. I also have psm0 in /dev/ spite I have no loader.conf option right now. I assume that installing xf86 synaptics did the job. Simply, it does not scroll, with this configuration. I might need to rest a day or two, to sleep and to read more. Best regards and, once more, thanks all for help. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: thinkpad and synaptics
Including hw.pci.synaptics_support in loader.conf, gives psm0 in /dev. Shouldn't it be hw.psm.synaptics_support instead? Yes. It was typo. People simply report success in having vertical scroll on thinkpads. Whatever I tried out, failed. Frankly, every link I found did not look similar one to another. Use moused, remove moused. Include mouse0, re- place mouse0 with touchpad0. Include VerticalScroll (or else), just let it plain. I cannot follow them all. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
thinkpad and synaptics
Lenovo e320, 9.1, amd64. Installed synaptics driver and tried out almost all configurations available on the net. None works. Including hw.pci.synaptics_support in loader.conf, gives psm0 in /dev. Changing InputDevice in xorg.conf simply made me mad. Like this: InputDevice Synaptics-Touchpad Corepointer Identifier Touchpad0` Driver synaptics Option Protocol psm Option Device /dev/psm0 Etc, etc. Should I add something more or I'm on a wrong path? Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
kms problem
After successfuly installed 9.1 on desktop, I was after the same on lenovo e320 laptop. The first surprise was gpt. It failed to boot from ssd. Finally, I put parti- tions as old mbr and it was fine. Added KMS and NEW XORG and DRIVER into newly created /etc/make.conf (not existed before). Then I rebuilded the kernel, removing some staff, including all usb, and x11/xorg-minimal using portmaster. Without xorg.conf I made startx and... I had server rea- ding xinitrc, since it xsetroot the color of the back- ground and it read fvwm2rc configuration file. Nothing else. The cursor hangs in the middle of the screen. Nothing moves. I plan to make xorg.conf file first. Then to remove xmodmaprc from user directory at all. To check what it says for mouse and keyboard drivers. To add AutoAddDevices and DontZap to xorg.conf. Any idea how to puzzle off this situation? I let psm driver for mouse stay in the kernel, just as agp, since people mentioned it necessary for some stuff in kms. I will add more information if needed. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
nomenclature for conf files
It might sound stupid, but I'd like to know if there's any difference. Are those 3 line the same? WITH_KMS=YES WITH_KMS=YES WITH_KMS=yes Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: nomenclature for conf files
WITH_KMS=YES WITH_KMS=YES WITH_KMS=yes With regard to their use in /etc/rc.conf, no, absolutely not. In general, from my experience, only the second one will work. Yep, in rc.conf only the second one. I was thinking of make.conf. It is the place kms should be set. Loader conf might take only versions also. Thank you and best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: agp in kernel
I am using latest nvidia-driver, and GENERIC 9.1-RC3, which has agp in the kernel, and have no issues.. After a bit more posts reading , I found that people used one driver even for intel graphics: xf86-video-intel. Is it nece- ssary in case of 9.1 for hd3000? Do I have to change make.conf as a way to run kms? On 8 it was intel in xorg.conf. Should I change to i915kms now? Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
agp in kernel
After several years I replaced desktop and laptop and wait for release to start fresh. On desktop I put nvidia gt520. Forums say nvidia prop driver dislikes agp op- tion in kernel and recommend removing it. Laptop is sandy bridge with hd3000 integrated. Would I trigger something if I delete agp from conf file in both cases? Another issue bothers me also. RC version of amdtemp failed to read temperatures on 8120. What version will be included in release? Some months ago there was a post of people taking source from current and compiling mo- dule. It worked on 8 core bulldozer. Best regards all Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO
Just rebooting to single user mode after the install and then tunefs -j disable /dev/ada0p2 works for me. After a reboot then I just removed /.sujournal That crystillized to me as a correct way in this situation. Just one fsck at the very beginning? Manual says about some options available after it only. People mostly mention journaling for servers. Anybody using 9.x on laptop with ssd? Thanks all for help, regarding this option. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO
I still use 8 and plan to install branch 9 on new laptop with ssd. If journaling comes as default on 9.1, I plan to accept defaults on partitioning and use tunefs to remove it with -h disable. Any idea what steps should I take for that? As far as I read, journaling uses it's own partitions. Do I have to remove them, resize them? Branch 8 had option to choose su and j during install. I tried to find proper tutorials/manuals, but lacked to re- solve it in my head. Best regards all Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO
There's an existing checkbox to disable it. There was substantial consensus for 9.0 that SUJ was something we wanted Nice to hear. I assume you mean check box during install process? Not mentioned in install guide in handbook. So, after I accept guided partitioning, I should go to modify or else? Sorry to bother again and again, but it is not clear to me at the moment. I'd avoid further tunefs if possible. If not possible, let me clear that branch 8 has no J as default and I found myself wondering. Correct me if I'm wrong. I have to go to single user mode first. Make fsck on partition that contains freebsd-ufs ( / ). Check options for that partition with tunefs -p partition. What exact name that partition would have? Next I have to disable journaling with -j disable and enable trim with -t enable. Reboot and voila? People mention file or partition that has to be deleted. Next few days I will put ssd into laptop and manage install, when release shows up. If there is another point I have to choose for journaling, let me know. Best regards all Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.1 and intel graphics
AFAIC Matthew Seaman already gave you a wonderful suggestion to add yourself to the group operator and just use the command shutdown with your own rights only. Did you try this suggestion? Actually, it is wheel group. To me it is normal to read mail and do something mundane in console, to startx for browsing things that cannot be seen pro- perly in lynx, to go back to console when done. I found no harm su-ing in graphics and doing root work, like write to usb stick or else. Eye catching is to use console in public, but... Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
9.1 and intel graphics
Yesterday I have gotten lenovo e320 laptop, with core i3 2350 and HD3000 integrated. Gonna wait few days till 9.1 release. I never used anything aside intel on my old laptop. Kostik Belousov made a port of kms and I found patches from june and jule on the net. What should I do after 9.1 install in this case? I assume kms is in xorg. Do I have to find and install some driver from intel? Do I need to change xorg.conf after configure flag, that will make conf file? Finally, what happens when I leave x and want to go back to console mode? I tried out live RC2 from usb stick. Few acpi errors, intel 1000 wifi found. After some time sysctl hw.acpi gave me the cpu temperature of 50C. Fan was on. Probably temp gonna go down when I add powerd and cx_lowest to rc.conf on hdd. Is it normal temp for this cpu? Best regards all Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gt520 and 9.1
I have a GT 520 in an ASUS P8H61-M LE/USB3 with a corei5 8GB running two HD lcd's I have run 9.0 since RC3 (when I got the machine) without issues until the recent update - v304.43 - that version failed to run the second monitor so I went back to v295.71_1. There is another update since but I haven't tried it yet. Hi Shane! There is new driver, named 304.51. A lot of bugs resolved, they said. I will use new SSD, so I hesitate to install RC1 and update later. No news on schedule for release, so far. The only version I waited with more uprehension was branch 5. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
gt520 and 9.1
After years of using nvidia 6200 with nv, I had to move to above mentioned gt520. Fast search shoes I nvidia-driver. Correct? And to change nv in conf file to nvidia with nvidia_load=YES in rc.conf? I wait to install the card till release comes out. Best regards all Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gt520 and 9.1
Thanks Chuck! I'd avoid xconfig at all. I was puzzled with need to install prop blob. OK, nothing to stay awaken all night. :) Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cx_lowest on 9
No news on the schedule, but with 9.1 Beta, the code has finally been fixed to deal with several issues and the correct answer is: performance_cx_lowest=Cmax economy_cx_lowest=Cmax And, no, I don't recall where it is documented Thanks for answer! I found the thread regarding this topic. Just as you said. This Cmax is somehow contraintuitive to me. I'd expected Cmin, but it is me, I assume. Cannot recall when I was so nervous waiting release in the branch. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
cx_lowest on 9
Dear list! For a long time I used powerd and cpufreq with options: performance_cx_lowest=LOW economy_cx_lowest=LOW in rc.conf on my laptop. Reading posts on the net I learned that I have/had to use C2 and C3. What would be the preffered option in coming 9.1? There is a chance I misread the whole thing. On old desktop I avoided cx part, but gonna try in out now. Also, I'd like to learn what the list thinks about throttle option set to 1. Any news on 9.1 schedule? Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
9.1 and amdtemp
On asus m5a97 mobo with amd 8120, RC1. Loading amdtemp.ko shows no temperature. People on the net post having source from head solved the issue. Would it be included in 9.1 release? If not, I might compile source and rename it to something like temperature.ko, then load it. Btw, someone knows about new schedule for the release? Best regards all Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: branch 9 and uefi
Well, I'm running disks I was running in another system before. I installed them by having a running system on another disk, then setting them up manually from there. I'm kinda particular... And ACPI is working, right? I'm running a Kingston KVR1600D3E11SK4/16G set. I assume you are correct. People run special kinds od ram. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: branch 9 and uefi
Thanks all for respond! I'd try to mix answers and not bother you with no reason. You don't say how big your hard drive is, and if you want to run any OS besides FreeBSD. It shall be ssd drive of 64 gb. Freebsd only, as about 10 years long. You can go into the guided installer to see what it wants to do but are better off selecting partition sizes outside the guided installer. I suspect it has to go the way sysinstall takes. In fact, I never went over borders partitions made. I was able to boot the FreeBSD installer USB stick using the memstick image, and am able to boot the USB-stick FreeBSD installations I've created. I will install on ssd. Plan is not to have dvd/cd at all. UEFI worked for me during my first installation on a UEFI machine. I moved then to 10 and still have no problems. Great! Just what I want to hear! Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: branch 9 and uefi
I'm running a M5A97 Evo just fine on -CURRENT, and I'd be shocked it it had any problem with 9 (or 8 or 7, for that matter). Hurrah! I shall get a bit cheaper version, plain m5a97 or pro. Let me ask you further. What option you chose during install? Guided or manual (and what if manual)? Further, what ram did you put on the board? It proved to be picky regarding memory. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
branch 9 and uefi
It took me by surprise. The mobo I have on my mind for new desktop has uefi instead of bios. It is asus m5a97, with 970 chipset, well priced among users on the net. How would it behave with 9.1? After all reading, I plan to boot it as memory stick and go with simple guided install. Someone could comment on the topic? At the moment, I see I have to avoid manual partition and mbr. Or not? If it sounds bad, any other option for motherboard and amd 8120 cpu? Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new desktop box
I run an 8120, it is a bulldozer however. I overclock it by adjusting the multiplier in the bios. Stock freq is 3.1GHZ and I run it at 4.2 GHz with an increase in Vcore of only 0.125V cooling with air. Solid as a rock. How about heating? - buildworld runs about 20min. - buildkernel runs about 6min. That is what matters. :) Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new desktop box
I have a GT430 installed on my machine, but I think GT520 will use less power, from specification: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-520/specifications It only needs 29W while GT430 needs 49W. NVIDIA also provides their native driver for FreeBSD. There is fanless GT520 card, not expensive. I hope it will work with nv. No real need for something more than basic graphics. What I still cannot decide is what cpu to get. I read reviews for bulldozer and find nothing thrilling. Guys are mostly gamers. On the other side, whatever i buy, gonna suffice. How about fx 8120 ? I like to have multicore (is there one core nowadays), but cold. Seems that I cannot wait for next generation to show up. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new desktop box
Do not get a Radeon newer than the 4000-series, the drivers are not available in FreeBSD at present. The 4650 has worked well for me. I'm not picky. In old node I have/had geforce 6200, which is pretty old. Works fine for non-demanding user. It also has no fan. As I said, my only concern at the moment is what cpu I should choose. I found posts of non working amdtemp on bulldozer. Code from the head had to be compiled for it to work. Gamers overclock and get high temperatures. If someone has fx cpu (especially 8120), I'd like to hear how it behaves. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new desktop box
Thanks all for reply! The real question is which video card do you want to use? Since I'm not gamer nor do 3d, some silent card will suffice. There are nvidia gp520 and radeon 6450, both with no fan. Also, I always enable powerd and dynamically lower freq to the least I could. More I read, less I know, regarding that future cpu. What about amd fx8120 ? Nex gen will come at Q3, maybe. Next decision might be ssd, instead of hdd. Best reviews are for samsung 830 (of wich 64gb are fine in my case). I plan to install from usb stick and avoid dvd-cd. Also, cannot make into what mobo should fit, but stay out of expensive field. Probably intel ethernet if possible, but it is not available in most data I read. Once more, thank you all for fast respond. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
new desktop box
Dear list! This evening my 7 years old node powers down for it's own sake. After a bit of panic, I made a decision to get new box. Regarding fast development of hardware, I cannot choose what is the correct way to go. For long time I use AMD and would like to have another one, but would listen to advice, if proves better to have intel. What are features I'd like: - to be silent and cold - to stay on not-expensive side Finally, questions. Phenom II 1100 or something else? Mobo for said cpu with eth, well working with freebsd? Graphical card, silent, that would work with amd64, branch 9? No games, nothing fancy. To last next few years. I plan to com- pile kernel or two. Half of usage is in console, startx then. I will give additional information for my taste, if needed. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
usb question
This might sound stupid, but I want to be sure and not recompile again. To have usb keyboard working I had to add usb stack to the kernel. In a hurry I put all uhci, ohci and ehci, with ukbd also. What of this in necessary for kb? I suppose ehci and ukbd. Btw, after usb addage, I have strange 3 seconds freeze in X, once it's up. Not at the start, but some 2-5 minutes later. Branch 8. Best regrads Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usb question
Not enough information to tell. Well, I found only the mouse pointer freezing. I could jump from one virtual desktop to another. Kb works too. When I compiled new kernel, I just added in a hurry usb staff, in- cluding ums. Since it didn't happen before, I could only put a blame on usb code. Frankly, those 3 seconds are not something I should care about more than those 3 seconds. :) I have a plan to install 9.0 on that desktop box, when it becomes ready. My bigger concern is support for laptop I have in mind as a replacement for old one, cause it takes i3 cpu and intel 3000 graphics. Any idea what will be with kms on branch 9? Best regards all Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: happy hacker lite 2 keyboard
Finally got the kb. As almost everyone anticipated, it refused to work connected to ps/2 adapter with usb - ps/2. I had to recompile the kernel and put usb code back. So far, so good. Thanks all for support. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
recommendations for laptop and desktop
I'm typing this on a Dell Latitude E6410 - Core i5, iwn wifi, em lan, nvidia graphics, webcam supported by webcamd... There seems to be one interesting new laptop, lenovo e320, coded as 685D089. It is i3, 3000hd graphics, probably 5100 wifi. Model with freedos for about 460 euros. Matte screen, as far as I could find right now. And 13 inch. Available for 3-4 weeks. I assume 9.0 will have code ready. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop
Zoran's comments that http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ is 'obsolete' are a bit misplaced regarding older kit that some of us use by choice or necessity (eg my 2.5 Thinkpad T23s :) Sorry for the word chosen in this case. I use one even older lapper, HP nx9020, with real 4:3 screen, matte. I'm ready to write about it. The only problem is that it is not possible to find anymore. So, no use. Reading forums and having hardware details, seems that only dell vostro v13 works out of the box for freebsd. Hard drive is what makes it cold and quiet, contrary to latitude 13, which runs on 320gb seagate hot plate. I took into consideration just devices able to get in my area and at reasonable prise tag. Special treat is wide glossy screen. I simply dislike it and want to avoid if possible. Best reagards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop
There is this list for laptops: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ Been there. Seen that. Obsolete. My very idea would be to have recent models in some kind of wiki. I believe that at least hundred guys on the list could post quality articles on the subject regarding lap- tops they regurarly use. See the recent thread on the freebsd-mobile list with subject Laptop recommendations? Mostly older stuff recommended. Hard to find or I dislike what I see on the review for particular model. Thank you for answering my question. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
recommendations for laptop and desktop
Comes a time to ask again and again the same question. More I read, less I know. Just as I found that candida- te for my new laptop, dell latitude 13 comes with anti- glare screen and all hardware well supported, forums reveal that it's 320gb hard drive heats a lot. It makes vostro v13 better runner, but... How sounds the idea to have a place on freebsd site for such kind of data/wiki? Laptop recommendations should include new models only, since older ones are not easy to find in usable condition. Also, making a go for home node, cold and quiet box, with parts fine under freebsd is not so obvious. Especially for newer graphic chips. It shows that my first idea to get cold phenom II on the integrated mobo fails on almost all parts. Yep, some kind of wiki, saying phenom to use under 8.2 to be cold and chip to find for amd mobo to take small amount of power might be... At last, sad thing is that only before mentioned dell comes supported and with matte screen. What is the box you would recommend, not going deep into past decade? Best regards all Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Status of support for Intel 3000 (Sandybridge) (and VESA help)
Does any one know what the state of support for this might be? ATM, the Intel driver simply does not recognize it. I just saw HP 4330s in the store. One post about year ago mentioned 3000/3100 working perfect. Could you try out all drivers, ie i915.ko? http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=16395 I'm not sure if it is the same generation of graphics, re- garding the very name. There is just few reviews on details, but seems that linux works perfectly on the same hardware, after this russian site (if you could manage the lingo): http://retera.ru/reviews/hp-probook-4330s.html If you have time, post how you manage with your hardware. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
dell latitude 13
Dear folks! I see threads on the laptop subject, some forums also, but no clue for cheap lapper with freebsd compatibility. There is a chance to get mentioned box for about 450 euros, without OS and with specs like this: Intel Core#2 Duo SU7300 1.3GHz, 3MB L2 cache, FSB 800MHz Intel GS45 Express + Intel ICH9M-Enhanced (chipset) Intel GMA 4500 MHD (graphics) 13.3 1366x768 HD WLED Anti-Glare (screen) Intel Link 5100 IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n WiFi (wifi) ExpressCard 6-cell Li-lon battery FreeDos (OS) I'm aware of something called optimus to optimize graphics and inability to know prior getting laptop home. Someone already has this laptop? To me it looks like it should work out of the box. I tend to like box to be cold and silent. If you have idea or better laptop in the price range, I'd be eager to know. Best regards all Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: dell latitude 13
Thanks for answering my question. Since the Intel chip is also still unsupported by FreeBSD, you will be limited to VEDA support which is very limited. I found that dell sells ubuntu on mentioned laptop in some parts of the globe. Further, my old laptop (HP nx9020) has intel chip and works under intel driver. I need simple 2d, no frills. Does newer chip run for plain graphics at all? No acceleration? Fine. I don't use it neither on my NVIDIA GeForce 6200 card with nv driver. For laptops you may check the following site : http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ Old and no newer machines on the site. Also check FreeBSD Hardware lists such as ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/8.2-RELEASE/HARDWARE.HTM Intel 5100 wifi should work with device iwn5000fw or 5150? It is NOT possible to know in advance without any prior knowledge whether a computer is working with FreeDOS will work with FreeBSD because these are very different systems . It is sold with freedos to be cheap enough. I appreciate that. The producer/seller can install FreeBSD or Linux without cost Not where I live. When I bought my previous laptop, live cd was the guide if it worked at all. It is a matter of buy it as it is now. More, no cd on latitude 13, which is fine, since it keeps it at 3 lb. My two fears are acpi and graphics 4500mhd. I found links that show 4500 supported. http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/subnotebooks-once-again-td4197868.html If the list thinks I should wait, it is a metter of adding the code as on this link: http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-21852.html Best regards all Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Best way to switch from Linux to BSD
I've been using Opera forever. It as an old and proven browser and it runs natively on FreeBSD. You can have the Linux flash plugin attached to it and still run the native FreeBSD version. It also supports html5. I use Conkeror on both desktop and laptop and simply cannot imagine to go back to insert_browser. Just wonna stress how my nodes run no more than 10 processes at the boot time and how that differs from whatever os I en- countered so far. As almost all posters on this topic I do not care for a dime if someone finds freebsd hard to configure to suit. It is part of the game and fun itself. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: happy hacker lite 2 keyboard
I don't know if the original Happy Hacker keyboard is still available, it hasn't been an issue for me. :D The successor to the original HHKB were the HHKB Professional (I'm typing this on one) and now the HHKB Professional 2. Both are USB only; the Pro2 added a hub. Wikipedia has an overview of all models: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Happy_Hacking_Keyboard Professional is a bit expensive. Lite 2 is just fine to my needs. They are all usb models nowadays. Fashion, just as wide screen monitors are. My plan, when kb arrives, is to put adapter to the end of cable and connect it to ps/2 jack. Manufacturer has a wiki page, where he ponders against usb - ps/2 correction. That was the starting point for my original post. For what reason are they against? Btw, have you changed something in node configuration to match 65 key kb? How it goes in xorg.conf file in line for driver, which is kbd for ps/2 kb? I disabled hald whith those 3 lines: Section Server Flags Option DontZap off Option AllowEmptyInput off Option AutoAddDevicesfalse EndSection Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: happy hacker lite 2 keyboard
Anyway, I've had really bad luck with off the shelf adapters. You are probably OK with just running it as USB. Should do if running through adapter fails. I always remove usb stack from kernel. Have to check how the change interacts with x configura- tion. Console mode asks for few lines to recog- nize kb. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: happy hacker lite 2 keyboard
Quite late return to the subject. I finally ordered one for myself and have a question regarding it's usage with 64 bit system. All newer HH keuboards are usb ones. Manufacturer doesn't confirm connection to ps/2 port with usb to ps/2 adapter. Is there any reason not to do that on amd64? Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: happy hacker lite 2 keyboard
The Happy Hacking keyboard doesn't have a numpad. I didn't have any problems because of this, regardless of having it enabled/disabled in the BIOS. Sorry for late reply. My old keyboard has numpad part. Since hh lite 2 has it not, I simply ask for behaveor of kb with options I set. I turn off numpad support in bios first. It removes numpad and let me jump from one part of the big screen in fvwm2 to the other one. If I turn numpad on, I cannot do that. Since I never used usb keyboard, cannot comment on the other concern, hh lite 2 and booting process. Best regards all Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
dmg handling
Howdy! I got a file made on mac, sized at 142 mb and with dmg extension. It is a dump of 4 gb SD card with firmware upgrade files. File says: disk1s1.dmg: VAX COFF executable not stripped So, compressed. The file system on that original card is ext3. Linux people use dmg2img utility to decompress and then mount it with options like: mount -o loop -t hfsplus image dir If correct, I could try to bunzip2 it first, then rsync to sheevaplug node (ubuntu on it) and mount finally. The final step would be to write that ima- ge to new SD card and use it to upgrade the gadget. I was sure that simple dd would suffice, but more I read, more I see it's wrong. I also assume that I cannot write that image to smaller, 2 gb SD card. Any idea what to do in this situation? Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mounting ext3 for rw
contrary to you, i didn't remove EXT2FS from my kernel Looking at GENERIC in 8.0, I don't see ext2 at all. Just as module. Probably could be added. Further reading and thinkering, I should be probably fine loading ext2fs module on amd64 8.0, then mounting it via: mount -t ext2fs /dev/da0s1 /storage I also found a patch for branch 7, included in 8. If suffices, I'd go no further. If something happens, I will install e2fsprogs for fsck on bsd, rather than linux. Plug is still on the way, cannot try out all the stuff. Thank you for answer. Best reagards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mounting ext3 for rw
Late reply. Bussy week. After more reading, I changed my mind and decided to go with e2fsprogs to manage ext3 formatted usb hard drive. I still have no sheevaplug and no hdd, but I like to prepare everything and be ready for every surprise. I always recompile kernel and have no ext2fs in it. I should probably kldload ext2fs.ko first to have support. But, I still do not see the way to manage ext3 in a different way, since in the list of apps of e2fsprogs does not exist one to have it. What to do otherwise: mount -t ext2fs /dev/da0s1 /storage Or, did I misunderstand the way it works? Maybe I should not load the module and use something I'm still not aware of? Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
mounting ext3 for rw
Hi all! I prepare to make plug music server with usb connected hard drive, formated ext3, since the system is ubuntu 9.04 as default. My rips are back-uped on spare usb disk, formated as ufs. My idea is to copy files from ufs to ext3 drive, using freebsd. I would probably enconter inode problem, since modern linuces use inode as 256, but bsd uses it as 128. I could use knoppix and format is with -I 128 flag. In ports available is e2fsprogs package with some utilities that might help. I could also take another approach and use rsync to avoid all inode puzzles. What would you recommend as the most reliable? Mounting ext3 as ext2 poses the question of making it dirty and necessity to fsck it first on linux system. Also, I found some posts of ina- bility to have the job done this way on branch 7. I have 8.0 on the laptop I write this and (if memory serves me well) 7.1 on old desktop. Best reagards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mounting ext3 for rw
Hi all! i have been using the e2fsprogs from the ports collection since 8.0-BETA2 without any problems*, i think that it will work for you. * the partition which i mounted was a 256 one too K, I could install 8 on old box. Have you partitioned and formatted the usb drive on freebsd? Or it was done on some linux distro? Finally, after mounting, I will have to copy files to ext3 drive. Does it work also flowlessly? Since the sheevaplug could mount ext3, I have an option to either rsync or scp to it directories recursive over ethernet adapters and setting ip addresses. What do you think over this? Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sheevaplug questions
Howdy! I have 2 of them and cu works fine. As root you can do this. The serial-over-usb provides you with 2 serial devices. The second one is the console. The first is the JTAG interface to flash the bios. # cu -l cuaU1 -s 115200 Perfect! I hardly wait to get the device! When you plug the serial-over-usb in you should see something like these lines in dmesg/messages. Dec 28 18:30:17 sjakie kernel: ugen2.4: FTDI at usbus2 Dec 28 18:30:17 sjakie kernel: uftdi0: SheevaPlug JTAGKey FT2232D B on usbus2 Dec 28 18:30:17 sjakie kernel: uftdi1: SheevaPlug JTAGKey FT2232D B on usbus2 When I turn the plug on, in fact? I suspect Attos tried to connect to wrong device name, or it was on some older freebsd version? Also, there were more than one version of plug, with maybe different hardware parts. Not related to freebsd: forum posts point to error after changing root password on the plug. Someone experienced it? I see no reason to have any problem on default ubuntu 9.04 with simple passwd. Almost all posters made apt-get update first. Thank you all for reply. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sheevaplug questions
Hi, Ronald! Please provide a link to the forum post. Otherwise I can only guess what you mean. There is no error because of changing the password. But there are some thing broken in the default install (missing dir, missing timezone, etc.). Follow the commands in this link and you're ready to go. http://www.plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/QuickStart It was not easy to find the link again. plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=110.0 I found more complaints over lost root pass all over forums. Simply people mess something without trail what it was. Once more, I still have no device, so cannot try out anything. Thanks for help. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
sheevaplug questions
Howdy! I ordered sheevaplug box and read as much as I could, regarding controlling this little node from bsd box. Seems that cu works fine on linux, but module should be loaded to enable serial emulation from usb host port to mini usb port on sheevaplug. Does someone use this mini computer and how connects to serial console? Almost all of documetation mentions win and linux. I suppose would be pretty easy to go further with serial line available. Btw, there is freebsd port for this plug already. Would be fine to try it out. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
laptop battery on 8.0
Howdy! Old laptop hp nx9020 with i386 8.0. Original battery was 371785-001, 11.1 V and 4400 mAH. New one says it is f4809 at 14.8 V. I also lost precise measurement of remain battery time: hw.acpi.battery.life: 97 hw.acpi.battery.time: 267 then again: hw.acpi.battery.life: 97 hw.acpi.battery.time: 388 I'd like to hear any opinion on this subject. Could I damage laptop? Also, what I could do to regain life option? Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: laptop battery on 8.0
Howdy! surely there might be a mistake in how data are parsed, but remember that the remaining time is computed based on remaining capacity and recent average current. So, if for any reason (cpu/disk/network load decreases, screensaver, etc.) the current decreases, the reported time goes up. It happens all the time with 'acpiconf -i batt' even on 7.x. My worry is could I damage the laptop with discrepance 11.1 V - 14.8 V. I could live with no life in acpi. At least, it worked correctly on all previous versions and also on 8.0 with old batery. Thanks for answering! Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
atapicam question
Howdy! Amd64, 7.1. Few days ago I replaced dieing dvd writer with brand new pioneer 116d. In the kernel I removed all not needed stuff and included atapicam and both cd and acd. Previously I used cd only with no hiss. Making dvd I first encountered error at the very beginning of the whole process: acd: Failure - Inquiry illegal request. Using growisofs I got another errors, but nothing that made dvd unusable: failure - read_toc illegal request and failure - unknown cmd. Dvd that contained files with typos, with (, ) and ` gave me some looking for lun message du- ring the write. Not shown in /var/log/messages anyway. Since I included atapicam into the kernel and it booted fine, it works with both device drivers. I found some posts that hal could be set not to probe writer, but it is not good, for acd to read dvd. Any opinion on this topic? Maybe some growisofs bug I'm not aware of. I have an impression dvd device is not broken, aside it is new one. Firmware version is 1.06, with 1.09 as the lattest on pioneer site. Another topic could be how to reflash dvd writer from freebsd?. Best reagards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cd ripping to flac
Thanx for reply!
It won't work if you want the songs to have the right metadata; You'd
have to supply that to the pipe in some way...
K. I would use metaflac anyway.
For ripping I use cdparanoia: 'cdparanoia -B 1' rips all tracks.
I was intended to have something like:
cdparanoia -B - | flac -
The following perl scripts reads a text file containing the metadata
(artist, album name, track data) and calls flac:
- make-flac -
#!/usr/bin/perl
#
# Compiles a list of wav files into flac files.
#
# Author: R.F. Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl
# Time-stamp: 2008-07-30 23:53:00 rsmith
#
# I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby release it into
# the public domain. This applies worldwide.
#
# In case this is not legally possible, I grant any entity the right to use
# this work for any purpose, without any conditions, unless such conditions
# are required by law.
# Check for programs that this script needs.
chomp($flac = `which flac 2/dev/null`);
-x $flac || die Cannot find flac: $!\n;
#chomp($norm = `which normalize 2/dev/null`);
#-x $norm || die Cannot find normalize: $!\n;
# Get the name of the file containing the titles.
if ($ARGV[0] ne ) {
$fname = $ARGV[0];
} else {
$fname = titles;
}
# open the list of song titles
open (TITELS, $fname) || die cannot open $fname: $!\n;
# The titles file format is as follows:
#
# album title
# artist
# 01 title of 1st song
# ..
# 14 title of 14th song
# ..
# get the album title and performer name
chomp($album = TITELS);
$album ne || die cannot read album name;
chomp($artist = TITELS);
$artist ne || die cannot read artist name;
# Normalize the wav files.
#printf(Normalizing .wav files...\n);
#`$norm -b track*.cdda.wav`;
# go over all the songs
while(TITELS) {
chomp;
($num, $title) = split (' ', $_, 2);
printf (Encoding \%s\ as %s\n, $title, track.$num..flac);
# invoke the flac encoder.
do {
$rc = system ($flac, -8, -TARTIST=.$artist, -TALBUM=.$album,
-TTITLE=.$title, -TTRACKNUMBER=.$num,
-o, track.$num..flac, track.$num..cdda.wav);
if ($rc != 0) {print \nError,, $rc, starting again;}
} until $rc == 0;
}
- make-flac -
He-he! flac defaults to -5, I think. Probably it would do the same trick
as pipe, just metadata are stored with no nad work. Thank you once
more.
Best regards
Zoran
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Re: cd ripping to flac
audio/abcde Thank you for reply. As I see in Makefile, abcde uses cdparanoia as an engine for the job. I think I should stay with simple app. My thinkering was: what is the background app people on this list use? I consider either cdparanoia or cdda2wav. What makes me nervous is I do not see device in /dev directory. I should point to tracks on the cd, like acd0t1 etc. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cd ripping to flac
K, this command as root makes the flac file: cdparanoia 1 - | flac - -o song.flac -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 23560791 Mar 7 15:53 song.flac At this moment I cannot check if it plays correctly. METADATA block #0 type: 0 (STREAMINFO) is last: false length: 34 minimum blocksize: 4096 samples maximum blocksize: 4096 samples minimum framesize: 14 bytes maximum framesize: 12670 bytes sample_rate: 44100 Hz channels: 2 bits-per-sample: 16 total samples: 9603804 etc. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
cd ripping to flac
Howdy!
I'd like to rip my cd-s to flac files using some
command line app, like cdda2wav or cdparanoia.
Using pipe to flac utility would be nice and the
way I'd take. What program acts in that matter?
Since cdda2wav is in the base, I suppose people
use it regurarly. Something like:
program {options} - | flac - flac_file.flac
One more thing bothers me. I cannot see songs on
the cd in the way of /dev/acd0t1. I tried to
stress it using cdcontrol, but no way. The kernel
is customized, no sound in it, and a lot of others
has gone. The box is speakers-free, so cannot
check if it plays in deed.
Best regards
Zoran
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Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3
This thread solves nothing. Two positions are clear. Also, I recall harder words on openbsd list, with a lot shorter thread. The whole thing is finished and should stay in that state. All next posts could be written, but no need to be sent. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
udf
Howdy! What is the experience regarding udf on cd/dvd on 7.0? I saw netbsd mail few days ago having those steps: newfs_udf and mount_udf. Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 x quad-core system is slower that 2 x dual core on FreeBSD
Now we also have terribly performing PostgreSQL on 8-core server. We noticed the slowdown after moving PostgreSQL from 2xXeon 3.0 Apache+PostgreSQL server to dedicated PostgreSQL server. I collected some stats (see attach) before moving to Linux. I'm sure that some code optimization could help to have multicore enhancement. Rapidmind example comes as proof that there is room to make things better. I saw some text on Sun compiler making code more able to use cores and get the speed. Intel also tried to do the same. Maybe the same extent of work should be put on app optimization, aside to os changes. Despite I like bsd better, must to say that linux does not sleep and wait. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: usb bluetooth dongle
I'd like to thank to all who helped me with advice. Indeed, it is more suitable to freebsd-bluetooth. Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
