One thing I would like to see is a list of favoured non-raid multiport cards
that are not dumb. We have a server running a rocket RAID controller
(largely to get 8 ports of SATA). It doesn't do hot swap, it doesn't do
SMART and I'm beginning to believe it might occasionally corrupt sectors
(very
> > Interesting - Someone else mentioned the same thing. The amr(4)
> > manpage doesn't seem to be updated to mention the latest cards
> > though. I did notice the driver hasn't been really updated in a
> > while either. Wouldn't this cause a problem with identifying the
> > newer cards?
> >
>
Hi.
Interesting - Someone else mentioned the same thing. The amr(4)
manpage doesn't seem to be updated to mention the latest cards
though. I did notice the driver hasn't been really updated in a
while either. Wouldn't this cause a problem with identifying the
newer cards?
The authoritativ
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 12:11:42PM +0300, Artem Kuchin wrote:
> >On 2007-Feb-12 16:07:03 +1030, Daniel O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >>I regularly ship systems overseas where the power fails frequently. The
> >>inability to boot because one disk got hosed is Bad News (tm).
>
> >A dece
> Jaime, can you expand a bit about what sort-of motherboard you
> installed the 1261ML in? I've yet to find any mainstream motherboards
> which have a PCIe x8 slot. Most have x1, some have x4, and many
> have x16. I've seen one Supermicro board which has a x8 slot but
> is only wired for x4 (ha
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 03:25:57PM -0600, Jaime Bozza wrote:
> I want to second the recommendation for Areca controllers. We have two
> systems - The first is using an 1160 (16-port PCI-x) with 16 400GB
> drives, the 2nd is using the newer 1261ML card (16 port PCI Express,
> mini SAS connectors) w
On Monday 12 February 2007 19:07, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> On 2007-Feb-12 16:07:03 +1030, Daniel O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >I regularly ship systems overseas where the power fails frequently. The
> >inability to boot because one disk got hosed is Bad News (tm).
>
> A decent UPS can help h
On 2007-Feb-12 16:07:03 +1030, Daniel O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I regularly ship systems overseas where the power fails frequently. The
inability to boot because one disk got hosed is Bad News (tm).
A decent UPS can help here.
No, i can't. I have seen UPS (even APC) fail in some ca
On 2007-Feb-12 16:07:03 +1030, Daniel O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I regularly ship systems overseas where the power fails frequently. The
>inability to boot because one disk got hosed is Bad News (tm).
A decent UPS can help here.
>It depends on your exact situation, I was just pointing
On Monday 12 February 2007 10:21, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
> > Software RAID won't help you if your primary disk gets an error in, say,
> > the second stage loader.
>
> I don't really buy this "booting" arguement. What's the failure scenario
> here? If the system is up and running, it will just kee
Hi, all!
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:40:18AM +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> On Monday 12 February 2007 00:34, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
> > One guy that I happen to know, who was responsible for the database
> > backend servers of Germany's biggest web mail provider at the time,
> > ran extensive b
On Monday 12 February 2007 00:34, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
> One guy that I happen to know, who was responsible for the database
> backend servers of Germany's biggest web mail provider at the time,
> ran extensive benchmarks. Result: for RAID 1, RAID 0 and RAID 1+0
> there is no difference in "har
In mpc.lists.freebsd.stable, you wrote:
: For modern CPUs this extra work is measurably neglegible.
With all of the interrupt activity it seems counterintuitive that it
would be negligible in that the processor is incurring many extra
cache faults to service the controller.
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 03:04:44PM +0100, Patrick M. Hausen wrote..
> Hello!
>
> On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 06:15:53PM +0300, Artem Kuchin wrote:
>
> > Under gmirror OS must issue two commands to write to disks and some
> > commands to check/set mark that mirrored data is intact.
> > Under hardware
Hello!
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 06:15:53PM +0300, Artem Kuchin wrote:
> Under gmirror OS must issue two commands to write to disks and some
> commands to check/set mark that mirrored data is intact.
> Under hardware RAID OS issue sonly one command to write and no
> checking command, since raid con
Josh Paetzel wrote:
What hardware RAID buys you over gmirror is that you can boot from it.
[snip]
From a raw speed perspective on an unloaded CPU a 3.0ghz processor is
probably just as fast or faster than the embedded processor on a RAID
card running at a few hundred mhz. Sure, once you sta
On Friday 09 February 2007 09:15, Artem Kuchin wrote:
> Alexander Sabourenkov wrote:
> > Artem Kuchin wrote:
> >> hi!
> >>
> >> I am the original poster of this thread. I have read many
> >> interesting reply during these two days. However, as i said in
> >> the original message due to certificatio
> > Intel does seem to have a few hardware-based RAID controllers here:
> > http://www.intel.com/products/server/raid/
> >
> > I don't see any driver or support for them in FreeBSD though.
> >
>
> Those are rebranded LSI Megaraid units, amr(4).
Interesting - Someone else mentioned the same thing
Hm... two points here. I, somehow, do not really believe that
software raid (gmirror for example) is as reliable as hardware.
I, deeply inside, believe that i might screw things very badly under some
heavy load and bad timing conditions. Can't explain it. it is religious
i guess,
but i can be
- Original Message -
From: "Artem Kuchin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd?
Alexander Sabourenkov wrote:
Artem Kuchin wrote:
hi!
I am the original poster o
Jaime Bozza wrote:
Hardware RAID1 buys you nothing in perfomance and reliability
for a prolonged headache with drivers, bios insanity and
monitoring+control tools.
Intel does seem to have a few hardware-based RAID controllers here:
http://www.intel.com/products/server/raid/
I don't see any dr
Alexander Sabourenkov wrote:
Artem Kuchin wrote:
hi!
I am the original poster of this thread. I have read many interesting
reply during these two days. However, as i said in the original
message due to certification issues i am pretty limited to INTEL
controllers and i have not seen a single r
Jaime Bozza wrote:
Hardware RAID1 buys you nothing in perfomance and reliability
for a prolonged headache with drivers, bios insanity and
monitoring+control tools.
Intel does seem to have a few hardware-based RAID controllers here:
http://www.intel.com/products/server/raid/
I don't see any dr
> Hardware RAID1 buys you nothing in perfomance and reliability
> for a prolonged headache with drivers, bios insanity and
> monitoring+control tools.
Intel does seem to have a few hardware-based RAID controllers here:
http://www.intel.com/products/server/raid/
I don't see any driver or support
Artem Kuchin wrote:
hi!
I am the original poster of this thread. I have read many interesting
reply during these two days. However, as i said in the original message
due to certification issues i am pretty limited to INTEL controllers and
i have not seen a single relevant reply about them.
This
hi!
I am the original poster of this thread. I have read many interesting
reply during these two days. However, as i said in the original message
due to certification issues i am pretty limited to INTEL controllers and
i have not seen a single relevant reply about them.
This is interesting. N
On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Geoffrey Giesemann wrote:
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 04:34:57PM -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote:
-They added a moving part (2-wire fan, no tach) to a "mission-critical"
part. That seems real stupid. After the bearings die in 2-3 years, what
happens to your card? Does it melt
> For what it's worth, 3Ware's latest PCI-E cards (9650 series) now
> support RAID 6. The updated twa driver that supports them hasn't yet
> been merged into FreeBSD (see kern/106488 which I filed 2 months ago)
> but you can download either the source or the binary for it from 3Ware
> that works j
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 04:34:57PM -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote:
> -They added a moving part (2-wire fan, no tach) to a "mission-critical"
> part. That seems real stupid. After the bearings die in 2-3 years, what
> happens to your card? Does it melt or just start acting weird? If the
> eng
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:51:58PM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote:
> On Thursday 08 February 2007 02:17 pm, Mike Andrews wrote:
> > Jaime Bozza wrote:
> > > Everyone has their reasons - I liked the RAID 6 feature, plus the OOB
> > > management of Areca, plus my history with 3ware wasn't good. :(
> >
> >
On Thursday 08 February 2007 02:17 pm, Mike Andrews wrote:
> Jaime Bozza wrote:
> > Everyone has their reasons - I liked the RAID 6 feature, plus the OOB
> > management of Areca, plus my history with 3ware wasn't good. :(
>
> For what it's worth, 3Ware's latest PCI-E cards (9650 series) now
> suppo
Jaime Bozza wrote:
Everyone has their reasons - I liked the RAID 6 feature, plus the OOB
management of Areca, plus my history with 3ware wasn't good. :(
For what it's worth, 3Ware's latest PCI-E cards (9650 series) now
support RAID 6. The updated twa driver that supports them hasn't yet
bee
I want to second the recommendation for Areca controllers. We have two
systems - The first is using an 1160 (16-port PCI-x) with 16 400GB
drives, the 2nd is using the newer 1261ML card (16 port PCI Express,
mini SAS connectors) with 16 500GB drives. Comments below:
> 1) Do these controllers, from
> They kick ass is what they are like. :)
>
> I had a 3U box with a 12 port controller sitting next to my desk for a
> few weeks and my only goal was to confuse/break the 3Ware controller.
> No amount of power plug pulling, pulling multiple drives, quickly
> re-arranging drives could confuse the
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:04:09PM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote:
There is the pass0 interface, but not sure what you can
set. Smartmon doesnt seem to work, or at least I havent used it.
Here is what you get via the cli tool for disk info
# ./cli32 "disk
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Freddie Cash wrote:
On Thursday 08 February 2007 08:52 am, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:47:10PM +0200, Clayton Milos wrote:
I can highly recommend the Areca family of SATA-II controllers. I
have a ARC-1110 (4 poort RAID controller) with 4x 320GB Western
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:04:09PM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> There is the pass0 interface, but not sure what you can
> set. Smartmon doesnt seem to work, or at least I havent used it.
> Here is what you get via the cli tool for disk info
>
> # ./cli32 "disk smart drv=1"
> {snip}
Excellent --
At 11:52 AM 2/8/2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:47:10PM +0200, Clayton Milos wrote:
> I can highly recommend the Areca family of SATA-II controllers. I have a
> ARC-1110 (4 poort RAID controller) with 4x 320GB Western Digital
> SATA-II drives attached to it in a RAID5 conf
On Thursday 08 February 2007 08:52 am, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:47:10PM +0200, Clayton Milos wrote:
> > I can highly recommend the Areca family of SATA-II controllers. I
> > have a ARC-1110 (4 poort RAID controller) with 4x 320GB Western
> > Digital SATA-II drives attache
http://www.3ware.com/
2007/2/8, Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:47:10PM +0200, Clayton Milos wrote:
> I can highly recommend the Areca family of SATA-II controllers. I have a
> ARC-1110 (4 poort RAID controller) with 4x 320GB Western Digital
> SATA-II drives at
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:47:10PM +0200, Clayton Milos wrote:
> I can highly recommend the Areca family of SATA-II controllers. I have a
> ARC-1110 (4 poort RAID controller) with 4x 320GB Western Digital
> SATA-II drives attached to it in a RAID5 configuration.
I have questions:
1) Do these cont
Hi,
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:42:39PM +0300, Artem Kuchin wrote:
I need a raid controller for FBSD 6.2 which has the following options
I can highly recommend the Areca family of SATA-II controllers. I have a
ARC-1110 (4 poort RAID controller) with 4x 320GB Western Digital
SATA-II drives attac
Hi, All
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:42:39PM +0300, Artem Kuchin wrote:
> I need a raid controller for FBSD 6.2 which has the following options
> [...]
For us the current solution is: "none at all".
The big big advantage of using geom mirror instead of a
"hardware RAID controller" is:
The disks
Hi,
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:42:39PM +0300, Artem Kuchin wrote:
> I need a raid controller for FBSD 6.2 which has the following options
I can highly recommend the Areca family of SATA-II controllers. I have a
ARC-1110 (4 poort RAID controller) with 4x 320GB Western Digital
SATA-II drives attach
Hello,
Artem Kuchin wrote:
Hello!
I need a raid controller for FBSD 6.2 which has the following options
1) Full SATA-II support
2) Good rperfomance (over 50MB read, over 30 write) in mirror mode
3) No weird problems with freebSD (like with SRCS16)
4) Utility to monitor status of raids (command
Hello,
Artem Kuchin wrote:
Hello!
I need a raid controller for FBSD 6.2 which has the following options
1) Full SATA-II support
2) Good rperfomance (over 50MB read, over 30 write) in mirror mode
3) No weird problems with freebSD (like with SRCS16)
4) Utility to monitor status of raids (command
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