Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-12-02 Thread Julian Elischer
On 12/2/14, 7:31 PM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: On 30 Nov 2014, at 10:04 , Julian Elischer wrote: On 11/29/14, 5:28 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Julian Elischer mailto:jul...@freebsd.org>> wrote: also look at the following: (a little dated) http://p4web.freebsd.or

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-12-02 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 30 Nov 2014, at 10:04 , Julian Elischer wrote: > On 11/29/14, 5:28 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Julian Elischer > > wrote: >> > >> > >> > also look at the following: (a little dated) >> > >> > http://p4web.freebsd.org/@md=d&cd=//dep

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-30 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/29/14, 5:28 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Julian Elischer > wrote: > > > also look at the following: (a little dated) > > http://p4web.freebsd.org/@md=d&cd=//depot/projects/vimage/&cdf=//depot/projects/vimage/porting_to_vimage.txt&c=

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-29 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > also look at the following: (a little dated) > > http://p4web.freebsd.org/@md=d&cd=//depot/projects/vimage/&cdf=//depot/projects/vimage/porting_to_vimage.txt&c=tO0@//depot/projects/vimage/porting_to_vimage.txt?ac=22 This is a useful

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-24 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/20/14, 8:33 AM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: On 19 Nov 2014, at 23:14 , Craig Rodrigues wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:59 AM, John-Mark Gurney wrote: Yes, we need a man page talking about this feature first, how to enable it, compile it into the kernel, how to manage it, what subsystems i

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-20 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > > > https://people.freebsd.org/~bz/20100530-02.vnet.9.html > > The man page should be in that perforce branch you converted to github. > Thank you for pointing that out. It is indeed in github: https://github.com/rodrigc/bz-vimage/tree/m

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-19 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 19 Nov 2014, at 23:14 , Craig Rodrigues wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:59 AM, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > >> >> Yes, we need a man page talking about this feature first, how to enable >> it, compile it into the kernel, how to manage it, what subsystems it >> interacts w/, what sysctl no

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-19 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:59 AM, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > Yes, we need a man page talking about this feature first, how to enable > it, compile it into the kernel, how to manage it, what subsystems it > interacts w/, what sysctl nodes it provides, etc. > Marko, Do you have any text which ca

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-19 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Alexander V. Chernikov wrote this message on Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 16:07 +0400: > Can we have some wiki/man/docs on how particular subsystem should > interact with VNET first? Yes, we need a man page talking about this feature first, how to enable it, compile it into the kernel, how to manage it,

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-19 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 19 Nov 2014, at 03:28 , Craig Rodrigues wrote: > > (6) Ask clusteradm to run one of the machines they use > for PF firewalls + IPv6 with a VIMAGE enabled kernel, and provide > feedback. For people to use pf with VIMAGE we first MUST have the security fix imported that I pointed

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-19 Thread Marko Zec
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:07:46 +0400 "Alexander V. Chernikov" wrote: ... > Can we have some wiki/man/docs on how particular subsystem should > interact with VNET first? > This can probably help to make proper vnet fixes in less number of > attempts :) > > For example, even attach/detach is handled

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-19 Thread Alexander V. Chernikov
On 19.11.2014 07:28, Craig Rodrigues wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 11/17/14, 3:02 AM, Warner Losh wrote: On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: (3) Take a pass through http://wiki.freebsd.org/VIMAGE/TODO and https://bugs.freeb

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-18 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > On 11/17/14, 3:02 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > >> On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Craig Rodrigues >> wrote: >> >> >>> (3) Take a pass through http://wiki.freebsd.org/VIMAGE/TODO >>> and >>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/buglist

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-18 Thread Peter Ross
On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Craig Rodrigues wrote: (4) Not everyone uses bhyve. FreeBSD jails are an excellent virtualization platform for FreeBSD. Jails are still very popular and performant. VIMAGE makes jails even better by allowing per-jail network stacks. I am using jai

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-17 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
Op 17 nov. 2014 om 16:37 heeft Dag-Erling Smørgrav het volgende geschreven: > Willem Jan Withagen writes: >> The constraints as you put them are indeed rather tight. There is little >> to be done about it. I was not aware of the fact that 11.0 is planned >> for release in such short time. > >

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-17 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 11/17/14, 3:02 AM, Warner Losh wrote: On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: Hi, PROPOSAL == I would like to get feedback on the following proposal. In the head branch (CURRENT), I would like to enable VIMAGE with this commit: PATCH == Index: sys/conf/NOTES ==

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-17 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Willem Jan Withagen writes: > The constraints as you put them are indeed rather tight. There is little > to be done about it. I was not aware of the fact that 11.0 is planned > for release in such short time. It isn't. ISTR that the target is 2015Q4. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@des.no __

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-17 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
On 17-11-2014 12:42, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On 17 Nov 2014, at 11:20 , Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > >> I think I understand your critique, but then on the other hand I wonder >> where the reluctance is As I read it, things are going to be enabled >> in CURRENT only (for the time). Which is e

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-17 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 17 Nov 2014, at 11:20 , Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > I think I understand your critique, but then on the other hand I wonder > where the reluctance is As I read it, things are going to be enabled > in CURRENT only (for the time). Which is exactly for the reasons you > worry about: Is it go

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-17 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
On 17-11-2014 12:02, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Craig Rodrigues > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> PROPOSAL == I would like to get feedback on the following >> proposal. In the head branch (CURRENT), I would like to enable >> VIMAGE with this commit: >> >> >> PATCH ===

Re: RFC: Enabling VIMAGE in GENERIC

2014-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > Hi, > > PROPOSAL > == > I would like to get feedback on the following proposal. > In the head branch (CURRENT), I would like to enable > VIMAGE with this commit: > > > PATCH > == > > Index: sys/conf/NOTES > ==