[Freeciv-Dev] [bug #16506] Non-military units belonging to a class without the ZOC class flag have a ZOC
Follow-up Comment #9, bug #16506 (project freeciv): Perhaps I was not clear enough in my original post. I thought that a unit that cannot attack was not meant to be able to restrict the movements of foreign units, particularly not on foreign soil when at peace and flagged not to adhere to ZOC rules. If this is actually intended, there is indeed a missing feature rather than a bug, as suggested in comments nos 4 and 5. ___ Reply to this item at: http://gna.org/bugs/?16506 ___ Message sent via/by Gna! http://gna.org/ ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/freeciv-dev
[Freeciv-Dev] [bug #16506] Non-military units belonging to a class without the ZOC class flag have a ZOC
Update of bug #16506 (project freeciv): Status:None = Need Info ___ Reply to this item at: http://gna.org/bugs/?16506 ___ Message posté via/par Gna! http://gna.org/ ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/freeciv-dev
[Freeciv-Dev] [bug #16506] Non-military units belonging to a class without the ZOC class flag have a ZOC
URL: http://gna.org/bugs/?16506 Summary: Non-military units belonging to a class without the ZOC class flag have a ZOC Project: Freeciv Submitted by: None Submitted on: Saturday 08/21/10 at 17:12 CEST Category: None Severity: 3 - Normal Priority: 5 - Normal Status: None Assigned to: None Originator Email: Open/Closed: Open Release: 2.2.2 Discussion Lock: Any Operating System: GNU/Linux Planned Release: ___ Details: No ZOC flag... [unitclass_land] name = _(Land) move_type = Land min_speed = 1 hp_loss_pct = 0 flags = TerrainSpeed, DamageSlows, BuildAnywhere, CanFortify, TerrainDefense This unit, with 0 attack and the NonMil and IgZOC flags, still has a zone of control: [unit_explorer] name = _(Explorer) class = Land tech_req = Seafaring obsolete_by = Partisan graphic = u.explorer graphic_alt = - sound_move= m_explorer sound_move_alt = m_generic sound_fight = f_explorer sound_fight_alt = f_generic build_cost= 30 pop_cost = 0 attack= 0 defense = 10 hitpoints = 10 firepower = 1 move_rate = 1 vision_radius_sq = 2 transport_cap = 0 fuel = 0 uk_happy = 0 uk_shield = 1 uk_food = 0 uk_gold = 0 flags = Shield2Gold, IgTer, IgZOC, NonMil roles = Explorer helptext = _(\ Explorers are brave individuals that are very useful for\ mapping unknown territory.\ ) ___ Reply to this item at: http://gna.org/bugs/?16506 ___ Message sent via/by Gna! http://gna.org/ ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/freeciv-dev
[Freeciv-Dev] [bug #16506] Non-military units belonging to a class without the ZOC class flag have a ZOC
Follow-up Comment #1, bug #16506 (project freeciv): I copied your unit class and type definition on the default, it works perfectly with me. Do you have a savegame with instructions step by step to reproduce? ___ Reply to this item at: http://gna.org/bugs/?16506 ___ Message posté via/par Gna! http://gna.org/ ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/freeciv-dev
[Freeciv-Dev] [bug #16506] Non-military units belonging to a class without the ZOC class flag have a ZOC
Follow-up Comment #4, bug #16506 (project freeciv): Changelog line # 32770 [r12583] and units.ruleset line #80. Now that i'm looking at it closer, i see that i had it wrong: Added unit class flag ZOC for units that are subject to Zone Of Control rules. So yeah, any unit that doesn't specify that flag should theoretically already ignore zones of control? But now i see that we don't have a way to flag a unit to not emit a ZOC. Perhaps that should be the subject of this bug? ___ Reply to this item at: http://gna.org/bugs/?16506 ___ Message sent via/by Gna! http://gna.org/ ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/freeciv-dev
[Freeciv-Dev] [bug #16506] Non-military units belonging to a class without the ZOC class flag have a ZOC
Follow-up Comment #5, bug #16506 (project freeciv): Oh, I didn't understand this like this. But it sounds like you are right. So this wouldn't be a bug, but a missing feature. ___ Reply to this item at: http://gna.org/bugs/?16506 ___ Message posté via/par Gna! http://gna.org/ ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/freeciv-dev
[Freeciv-Dev] [bug #16506] Non-military units belonging to a class without the ZOC class flag have a ZOC
Follow-up Comment #6, bug #16506 (project freeciv): The default units.ruleset explains ZOC unit class flag: ; ZOC = Unit is subject to ZOC rules. Unit type flag IgZOC can ; override this And IgZOC unit flag: ; IgZOC = ignore Zones of Control (ZOC) even if unit class has ZOC flag ChangeLog has: Added unit class flag ZOC for units that are subject to Zone Of Control rules. Previously this was hardcoded to LAND_MOVING. Unit type flag IgZOC may override this. Yet i can clearly recall times when an enemy Explorer has blocked movement of my Warriors. This is correct. Explorers have ZOC and IgZOC under the default ruleset. Explorers can impose zones of control, but Explorers ignore zones of control imposed by other units. Under the custom ruleset by Anonymous, Explorers should not impose zones of control. It turns out that NonMil merely means a unit doesn't acquire veteranship the normal way. NonMil units will not impose martial law and will not cause unhappiness. NonMil units can acquire veteranship by the normal way (veteran_raise_chance, veteran_work_raise_chance and Veteran_Build). ___ Reply to this item at: http://gna.org/bugs/?16506 ___ Message sent via/by Gna! http://gna.org/ ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/freeciv-dev
[Freeciv-Dev] [bug #16506] Non-military units belonging to a class without the ZOC class flag have a ZOC
Follow-up Comment #7, bug #16506 (project freeciv): Under the custom ruleset by Anonymous, Explorers should not impose zones of control. I don't think so. Unit is subject to ZOC rules means that the unit should respect the ZOC, not it imposes a ZOC, imho. It turns out that NonMil merely means a unit doesn't acquire veteranship the normal way. NonMil units will not impose martial law and will not cause unhappiness. NonMil units can acquire veteranship by the normal way (veteran_raise_chance, veteran_work_raise_chance and Veteran_Build). They also can move to peaceful territories, but the documentation is lacking. ___ Reply to this item at: http://gna.org/bugs/?16506 ___ Message posté via/par Gna! http://gna.org/ ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/freeciv-dev
[Freeciv-Dev] [bug #16506] Non-military units belonging to a class without the ZOC class flag have a ZOC
Follow-up Comment #8, bug #16506 (project freeciv): I also expected that a unit class without ZOC flag would not impose zone of control, that is why I confirmed the bug. It seems it is not a bug, we just missunderstood the purpose of the flag. ___ Reply to this item at: http://gna.org/bugs/?16506 ___ Message sent via/by Gna! http://gna.org/ ___ Freeciv-dev mailing list Freeciv-dev@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/freeciv-dev
