Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen (2013-12-04 13:31:30)
[Jonas Smedegaard]
I believe proposal is not to drop the armel port entirely, but trim
it to no longer support _smallest_ devices.
That might be better, unless Dreamplug is one of those. The - jessie
supported: - [proposed dropping] comment
onwards).
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Quoting Anders Jackson (2013-11-26 11:09:51)
Den 25 nov 2013 14:46 skrev Jonas Smedegaard [1]d...@jones.dk:
Quoting Anders Jackson (2013-11-25 12:48:22)
Den 25 nov 2013 12:00 skrev Jonas Smedegaard [1][2]d...@jones.dk:
Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen (2013-11-25 11:34:32)
I would love [to] use
Quoting Anders Jackson (2013-11-26 15:56:02)
Den 26 nov 2013 11:53 skrev Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk:
Quoting Anders Jackson (2013-11-26 11:09:51)
Den 25 nov 2013 14:46 skrev Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk:
Quoting Anders Jackson (2013-11-25 12:48:22)
Den 25 nov 2013 12:00 skrev Jonas
of MySQL:
Both of those support password-less access.
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Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen (2013-11-25 11:34:32)
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I suggest to use either Postgres or SQLite backend, instead of
MySQL: Both of those support password-less access.
I would love ot use either, but do you or anyone else have any idea
how to convince owncloud to use
Hi Anders,
NB! Please don't cc me.
Quoting Anders Jackson (2013-11-25 12:48:22)
Den 25 nov 2013 12:00 skrev Jonas Smedegaard [1]d...@jones.dk:
Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen (2013-11-25 11:34:32)
[Jonas Smedegaard]
I suggest to use either Postgres or SQLite backend, instead of
MySQL: Both
!
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on the dependencies needed by genesis that
aren't in Debian - the python modules ntplib and python-iptables.
I'm mentioning this in public to nudge myself into finishing that work
off. :)
Cool!
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Quoting Markus Sabadello (2013-11-20 21:31:29)
On 20.11.2013 17:11, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Here's a transcript of the comparison at 00:15:30-00:16:30:
With arkOS I am really trying to focus on just self-hosting at the
moment. Being able to easily install and manage this content by
oneself
Hi Dave,
Quoting Damas (2013-11-15 22:27:24)
I would like to be added to the mailing list, please. Thank you.
Please subscribe yourself here:
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss
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Quoting Simo (2013-11-04 03:46:56)
On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 18:54 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Simo (2013-11-03 18:02:56)
On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 13:38 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen (2013-11-03 09:49:24)
In addition, we get a central and structured
Quoting Simo (2013-11-04 15:13:47)
On Mon, 2013-11-04 at 10:27 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Simo (2013-11-04 03:46:56)
On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 18:54 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Debian packages generally store site-wide configuration as files
below /etc. That means
tempting to use that approach when needing a
setup different from what the corresponding package maintainer offers,
but since we have *no* administrator on our systems, our setup *must* be
supported by package maintainers.
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Quoting Simo (2013-11-03 18:02:56)
On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 13:38 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen (2013-11-03 09:49:24)
[Lorenzo]
For these reasons I think it's not necessary to put LDAP in the
freedombox. Maybe I'm overlooking something (maybe some critical
Quoting Simo (2013-11-03 18:02:56)
On Sun, 2013-11-03 at 13:38 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen (2013-11-03 09:49:24)
In addition, we get a central and structured place to store
configuration for at least some of the services, but that is of
less importance
), then perhaps you should
document your reasons why (sorry if you did already and I simply missed
it in my brief skimming your project).
Good luck with your project, however you choose to proceed with it!
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we can *then*
consider if sensible to include in FreedomBox.
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is in the works: http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm
That would seem to be another potential hardware target.
Added to https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/TargetedHardware#Promising
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it as *reference* platform, is the non-free
blobs needed to boot. Also a problem if using unofficial packages.
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Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen (2013-10-10 14:08:09)
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Listed at https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/TargetedHardware#Unsuitable
It sure is. What was the reason you added dropped Raspberry Pi from
the wiki 2013-08-13 21:35:37 and added it back under the Unsuitable
heading
do in Debian,
or b) convince Emdebian folks (i.e. the Debian developers most involved
with ARM devices) that Raspberry Pi is viable for Debian.
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curious to hear what are the other opinions on this
topic.
Thanks for these reflections. I look forward to some clarification for
that too, as it isn't obvious to me either: Personally I haven't needed
LDAP for any of the single-host systems I have ever maintained.
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Quoting James Valleroy (2013-10-05 03:40:33)
http://sat.goffi.org/
Looks nice.
Please add it to https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/LeavingTheCloud -
including filing either an RFP or ITP bugreport for it, as noted at the
bottom of that wiki page.
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Quoting James Valleroy (2013-10-05 13:52:43)
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Please add it to https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/LeavingTheCloud
- including filing either an RFP or ITP bugreport for it, as noted
at the bottom of that wiki page.
Added
Quoting James Valleroy (2013-10-05 13:52:43)
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Please add it to https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/LeavingTheCloud
- including filing either an RFP or ITP bugreport for it, as noted
at the bottom of that wiki page
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on fixing it for Freedombox. Anyone able to
enlighten me?
Noone is (being loud about) working on TLS for FreedomBox.
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by means of
point-to-point encryption.
More info here:
http://icg.greens-efa.eu/pipermail/hub/2013-September/70.html
Great news!
Time will tell if just empty words, or those politicians actually
understand what it means and stand behind it in future legislation.
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that interact with the operating system only work on Debian based
systems, though.
I agree with Petter here (and with his other remarks in that same post).
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packages for that, only involves editing the
wiki page https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/LeavingTheCloud - and to be
really nice additionally filing a bugreport as hinted at the bottom of
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Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen (2013-09-15 18:32:40)
[Jonas Smedegaard]
Possibly the authors of Plinth has applied such constraint for their
project specifically, but FreedomBox has not, TTBOMK.
What part do you have in mind here? I have not discovered anything
like that, but I do
the
criteria of running Debian, being cheap, low-power and silent, and
preferrably being Open Hardware.
NB! I speak for myself here, as enthusiasticly involved developer.
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Quoting Sandy Harris (2013-09-14 01:09:09)
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Would be nice if those knowledgeable about crypto could propose a
shortlist of purposes, and corresponding CAs and cipher suites.
I see no reason offhand for a Box to trust any CA. That is a problem
for OTR in their (smartphone) applications:
https://lists.mayfirst.org/pipermail/guardian-dev/2013-September/002504.html
[legacy systems]: CAcert.org discusses BEAST vs. RCA4 impacting MacOS X:
https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert/2013-09/msg2.html
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Quoting Anish Mohammed (2013-09-12 11:24:19)
There is an interesting thread currently on cryptography mailing
list touching on similar topics.
Thanks.
Do you have a URL for that?
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- CAcert.org - no CAs
I.e. I see no need for creating a new CA. But am open to (at least try
to) understand the reasoning behind your idea. :-)
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Excellent - just the kind of thing I was hoping for!
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Hi cgw933 (and others),
Quoting cgw...@aol.com (2013-09-11 09:37:16)
Is the Freedom Box almost done?
No. Still lacks e.g. being usable by non-geeks.
What you quoted was merely indication of the project being alive :-)
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Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen (2013-09-11 12:16:35)
[Jonas Smedegaard]
git-import-orig --upstream-vcs-tag=tag/commit tarball
Ah, thank you. Just what I needed. I fetched the git repo from
jvasile and imported the tarball, as well as my debian-packaging
branch based on the great work from
itself could be based on this one instead:
http://source.jones.dk/?p=local-COMMON.git;a=blob;f=uwsgi/apps-available/local-django-app.ini
(also available as git clone: git://source.jones.dk/local-COMMON )
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I assumed that was the basis of what's now in Freedom-maker, but I
didn't include it there, so don't really know if perhaps a completely
different appraoch.
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Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen (2013-09-03 08:08:00)
[Jonas Smedegaard]
I am still unfamiliar with exmachina, but seems to me that its
purpose is to handle execution of cross-account yet same-host,
whereas purpose of remctl seems to be remote-host execution.
Yes.
Seems wrong for me
Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen (2013-09-03 09:57:58)
[Jonas Smedegaard]
I suspect we are better of finding some alternative, preferably
something also used elsewhere. :)
Fully acknowledged.
The issue at hand is to find a good alternative. sudo might do.
remctl might do. Even nrpe
Quoting Tim Retout (2013-09-03 09:31:20)
On 3 Sep 2013 08:10, Jonas Smedegaard [1]d...@jones.dk wrote:
What I am thinking is a CGI interface run as an isolated user (e.g.
via uwsgi or apache2-suexec) talking to debconf.
1. Presumably debconf needs root privileges, so would you grant that user
Quoting Nick Daly (2013-09-03 20:22:30)
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Quoting Nick Daly (2013-09-03 16:24:38)
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Therefore I see debconf as the *only* possibility we have: Debian
.
...but I suspect I am simply missing something obvious here...
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CPU revision: 1
Hardware: Marvell Kirkwood (Flattened Device Tree)
Revision:
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they know about this...
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should I choose it ?
Yeah, that should work. Mind your outlets, though, you might need to
buy an adapter to plug it in.
The european model is exactly the one you will want, as it only vary
from the american model by the plug. :-)
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MSRP which I guess is Manufacturer's
suggested retail price. Makes sense to consider only when actually
available for sale!
Generally computers need to work with Debian, and preferrably they
should use Open Hardware.
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That criterium, yes - but is it actually generally available? Seems
only available for pre-order at above referenced website.
Please share link to somewhere it is for real sale.
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of interest to check if
correct that Data::UUID uses _other_ device-specific data than MAC for
producing UUIDs - and if other UUID generators do similar.
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Quoting Tim Retout (2013-07-22 10:06:56)
On 21 Jul 2013 00:05, Jonas Smedegaard [1]d...@jones.dk wrote:
As mentioned in my previous reply I am working on getting the proper
CPAN Data::UUID in Debian, so would be great if you could similarly
take a look at that.
I do not trust CPAN's Data
Quoting Tim Retout (2013-07-22 12:30:57)
On 22 Jul 2013 10:48, Jonas Smedegaard [1]d...@jones.dk wrote:
Arrgh...!
You just educated me to inspect bugtrackers more closely: Perhaps if
you'd not closed the Debian bug but left open and tagged as wontfix,
then I'd noticed it when making a move
hosts.
Cc'ing Daniel explicitly as he has requested in the past to be nudged
gently regarding security-related issues :-)
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Quoting Eugen Leitl (2013-07-17 11:35:05)
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 08:20:25PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Sorry, not parsing you here. FBX is P2P infrastructure, and as
such the only reason why FBX is not a good match for mobile
alternative Android distros is because
Quoting Eugen Leitl (2013-07-17 15:37:39)
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:24:23PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Then your answer above to your own question makes no sense to me,
however: The project we are [both] working on cannot substitute its
Debian packages with something self-hosted
Quoting Eugen Leitl (2013-07-15 16:54:38)
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 04:48:26PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Hi Eugen,
Quoting Eugen Leitl (2013-07-15 15:25:42)
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:29:12AM +0200, Robert Martinez wrote:
FreedomBox should be the server behind the services you
. :-/
Please bring it up again when not vaporware - i.e. when actually
available for sale.
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Keep us posted when a real product based on this is for sale.
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somehow.
There is no free driver for the WiFi used in DreamPlug. Those wanting
to use that will need the non-free Debian package firmware-libertas.
Please see general Debian install documentation for how to enable
non-free packages.
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://uefidk.intel.com/content/minnowboard-uefi-firmware
Looks promising indeed.
Keep us posted when it is real - i.e. is for sale.
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Quoting Eugen Leitl (2013-07-04 13:32:08)
On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 11:48:01PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
No need for separate repository: All parts must be in Debian itself.
There should be a metapackages called freedombox which pulls in
everything.
Not sure I agree. Nevertheless
ones (or provide more
computing power at same price), and when I see that happen I intend to
lower the bar at above referenced wiki page from its current lower than
$200).
Opinions are quite welcome.
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Quoting Eugen Leitl (2013-06-12 20:47:07)
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 07:48:30PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Eugen Leitl (2013-06-12 17:46:54)
Do you see why IPv4/IPv6 BTNS wouldn't be a good out-of-the box
feature for the Freedombox?
Uhm, could you please elaborate a bit
(if youtube user balp reads this, please get in
touch with me).
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Quoting Sandy Harris (2013-06-01 12:38:37)
Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Quoting John Gilmore (2013-05-31 20:07:16)
The reason that the compressed man pages are there is that each
installed Debian package includes its man pages ...
The reason that the man command itself
to pointing to
generic manpage usage for dev tools that won't be in the user's
FreedomBox.
At least that's how I'm misunderstanding this thread. :-)
Ah, yes. Makes sense. Thanks for putting this into perspective.
(I have much to learn still in that area)
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that your question was pretty much tied to learning how
to use commandline tools in Debian. Which I find much better to do at a
users' mailinglist.
But perhaps I simply misunderstood your question somehow?
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Quoting Johan Henselmans (2013-05-11 14:18:05)
On 9 mei 2013, at 22:51, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
Quoting Johan Henselmans (2013-05-09 11:58:36)
Now that Debian Wheezy is officially out,I decided to give it a
spin, and see if everything would work with FreeDomBox. I started
Quoting Rob van der Hoeven (2013-05-10 14:24:03)
On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 11:06 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Hi Rob,
Quoting Rob van der Hoeven (2013-05-10 10:03:40)
Unfortunately, LXC still seems to have broken templates.
[details of breakage snipped]
You make
, folks interested in getting LXC into shape, please read
http://bugs.debian.org/680469 and consider post updates to
680...@bugs.debian.org .
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If there is any step beyond that, it is (at most) a Debian Blend.
More info at https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends (recently updated
to more clearly clarify above differences).
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software, please consider filing an
RFP bugreport and then add it together with that bugreport at
https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/LeavingTheCloud
(how to file an RFP bugreport is referenced at the bottom of above
page).
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locally but not (easily?) to distribute to avoid your
local host to become a single point of failure.
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there to not be personal: When written in
the style of who said what it discourages further editing.
Wiki pages works best when presenting concepts, not speakers of
concepts.
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- Jonas
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already.
Kind regards,
- Jonas
[file an RFP bugreport]: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/#l1
[future services] https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/LeavingTheCloud
[existing reports] http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/prospective
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Quoting Rob van der Hoeven (2013-02-11 12:17:44)
On Sun, 2013-02-10 at 17:22 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Would be nice if you could avoid promoting the misconception of
Raspbian being a version of Debian - it is no more so than Ubuntu
is. Better to instead say This is a Debian
Olicom A13 boards available at similar price as RPi.
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and purple shirt (not t-shirt).
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. You can find their contact information here:
https://www.freedomboxfoundation.org/contact/
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Quoting Jonathan Wilkes (2013-01-12 00:12:08)
From: Ted Smith te...@riseup.net
On Sat, 2013-01-05 at 16:20 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I believe Tor is only relevant to consider including into
FreedomBox when someone can provide sensible defaults for it which
can be integrated
time...
If you mean postponing user-friendliness till later, then it sounds to
me like you are talking about something (quite exciting and worthwhile
to try reach but) different from Freedombox.
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such
theoretical discussions.
FreedomBox is about boxing already existing, stable code - not about
inventing new code.
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of
that bugreport among those generally interested in maintaining
Javascript projects for Debian.
Regards,
- Jonas
Member of the javascript team, and eagerly awaiting suggestions for
libraries needed for semantic chat tools!
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here - actual code
is, coded to be usable under tight resource constraints, and copyleft
licensed so it can be part of Debian.
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and headaches after consumption of alcohol?
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