Re: [Freedos-devel] Repository User Interface Design

2025-09-09 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Aug 1, 2025, at 11:08 PM, Prime Seal via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > I am not happy with the design of user interface repository as there are no > timestamp on the > FreeDOS DVDROM iso. > > can release date be present on the repository more importantly the Fr

[Freedos-devel] anyone wanna help me make fdinst networking capable by using external htget from mtcp? and be similar to apt in some way?

2025-09-07 Thread victoria crenshaw via Freedos-devel
let me know <3 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

[Freedos-devel] LOGGER

2025-09-03 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
re a pair of features I think I will be adding to the command line interface of LOGGER in the near future. So for now I’m not going to update the FreeDOS package. Of course, you can always fetch the latest sources for LOGGER at https://gitlab.com/DOSx86/logger <https://gitlab.com/DOSx86

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2509

2025-09-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2509 for August is now available for download at: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ <https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/> Changes since T2508: 2025-08-28 20:36:00 ht

Re: [Freedos-devel] HTMLHELP mem corruption, usage policy on APACK vs. UPX

2025-08-28 Thread Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
> Am 28.08.2025 um 01:35 schrieb Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-devel > : > > El jue, 28 ago 2025 a las 1:12, E. Auer via Freedos-devel > () escribió: > I tend to stick to UPX, preferably the UPX-UCL variant. > > > +1 for tha

[Freedos-devel] pciutils 3.14

2025-08-28 Thread Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
; show extended PCI Express registers and information, compared to > traditional IO CF8/CFC access. And as djgpp builds are working on > freedos, this PCIe support can be useful new feature. > Note that lspci works also without pci.ids file but in this case it does > not print vendor, devi

Re: [Freedos-devel] HTMLHELP mem corruption, usage policy on APACK vs. UPX

2025-08-27 Thread Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
> Am 28.08.2025 um 01:11 schrieb E. Auer via Freedos-devel > : > > Would the APACKed file also work on 8086? While not having tested this specific HTMLHELP binary, a FDISK binary I tested with the same APACK version did (though the official FDISK binary is UPX compressed). >

Re: [Freedos-devel] HTMLHELP mem corruption, usage policy on APACK vs. UPX

2025-08-27 Thread Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-devel
Hi, El jue, 28 ago 2025 a las 1:12, E. Auer via Freedos-devel (< freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>) escribió: > I tend to stick to UPX, preferably the UPX-UCL variant. > > +1 for that. As for me, I prefer to stick with the open source solution (and to my taste, even better whe

[Freedos-devel] HTMLHELP mem corruption, usage policy on APACK vs. UPX

2025-08-27 Thread Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
: -1 -x What is our policy regarding the inclusion of APACKed binaries? This is freeware, but no free software. I don't care, but others probably do? [1]: https://gitlab.com/FreeDOS/base/htmlhelp/-/commit/4bea55b2d45b8cd4d3ba263a463391d09a75c1ee [2]: https://ibsensoftware.com/products_aPACK

Re: [Freedos-devel] HTMLHELP mem corruption, usage policy on APACK vs. UPX

2025-08-27 Thread E. Auer via Freedos-devel
I tend to stick to UPX, preferably the UPX-UCL variant. Thanks for finding the bug in HTMLHELP! Must have been there for years? :-o [1]: https://gitlab.com/FreeDOS/base/htmlhelp/-/commit/4bea55b2d45b8cd4d3ba263a463391d09a75c1ee _______ Freedos-devel ma

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-23 Thread tom ehlert via Freedos-devel
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Unzip

2025-08-19 Thread Louis Santillan via Freedos-devel
On Tue, Aug 19, 2025 at 8:02 AM Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel < freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: [SNIP] > CWSDMPI insists on creating a swap file even when there is no demand for > additional memory. The location of the file is hard-coded into the binary. > While, UN

Re: [Freedos-devel] Unzip

2025-08-19 Thread roytam--- via Freedos-devel
wrote: > > > > On Aug 19, 2025, at 11:21 AM, roy...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello, > > Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: > > > A little while back, a user submitted a request to include unzip on the > install media[1]. > > While this seems like a simp

Re: [Freedos-devel] Unzip

2025-08-19 Thread roytam--- via Freedos-devel
Hello, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: > > A little while back, a user submitted a request to include unzip on the > install media[1]. > > While this seems like a simple and straight-forward request that could be > easily satisfied, there are a few complications. &g

[Freedos-devel] Unzip

2025-08-19 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
loss of the very data they may be trying to save. I do have a couple potential ways this may be resolved. But, I would like your thoughts on this matter first. :-) [1] https://gitlab.com/FreeDOS/issue-reporting/-/issues/54 <https://gitlab.com/FreeDOS/issue-reporting/-/issues/54&

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-18 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
but the bug > still exists ... INT 25 and 26 need some sort of integration with > the existing buffer cache, otherwise every other user of INT 25 and > INT 26 are still exposed. > > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2025 at 3:08 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: >> >> I don

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-18 Thread Michael Brutman via Freedos-devel
DOSLFN might be covered using that brute-force approach, but the bug still exists ... INT 25 and 26 need some sort of integration with the existing buffer cache, otherwise every other user of INT 25 and INT 26 are still exposed. On Mon, Aug 18, 2025 at 3:08 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-18 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I don't know if everyone saw this, so I'll repeat the news item here. I saw that Jason Hood posted an update to DOSLFN that seems to fix this issue. Here's the news item I posted on the website earlier today: >> Thanks to Jason Hood for version 0.42 that fixes disk corrupt

Re: [Freedos-devel] critical error 386 bug - was: DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas

2025-08-16 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
Hi! I think there should be a separate subject for this topic: https://gitlab.com/FreeDOS/issue-reporting/-/issues/14#note_2686589554 https://github.com/FDOS/kernel/issues/210 It seems that the test kernel which preserves FS and GS segment registers in the critical error handler has fixed

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-15 Thread Christopher Evans via Freedos-devel
Depends if the app is using direct io  To: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." ;Cc: tom ehlert ;Subject: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508;13:34, August 15, 2025, "tom ehlert via Freedos-devel" : I&#

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-15 Thread tom ehlert via Freedos-devel
> I'm pretty certain that most DOS installations use a minimal setting for > the BUFFERS= directive in config.sys. I've never seen anything over 30. As a little known fact: for FreeDOS, "BUFFERS=10" is implemented as "at least 10, or whatever fits into HI

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-15 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
investigated sector to the BUFFERS cache rather than only SEARCHING for it. ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-15 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
ING the investigated sector to the BUFFERS cache rather than only SEARCHING for it. Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-15 Thread Michael Brutman via Freedos-devel
ding almost any program is going to wipe out the buffers cache. We're not protecting anything by keeping INT 25/26 traffic out of it. ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-15 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
cal error handler destroyed FS/GS in 386 kernels! Most of the FS/GS handling has been fixed many years ago. How much extra stack will the error handler use now? Could this explain OTHER misbehaving kernel bugs after criterr? _______ Freedos-devel mailin

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-14 Thread Michael Brutman via Freedos-devel
ated and turned over. ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-14 Thread Christopher Evans via Freedos-devel
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Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-14 Thread Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
pop bp Greetings, Bernd ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-14 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
://gitlab.com/FreeDOS/issue-reporting/-/issues/14 <https://gitlab.com/FreeDOS/issue-reporting/-/issues/14> Since the DOSLFN bug only occurs when the KERNEL + DOSLFN + FDNPKG are in play, it may be possible a similar problem is happening here. Both the KERNEL and FDNPKG are 32-bit pr

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-14 Thread tom ehlert via Freedos-devel
Hallo Herr Eric Auer via Freedos-devel, am Dienstag, 5. August 2025 um 02:00 schrieben Sie: > Hi Tom, >> cache INVALIDATION is only needed because the BUFFERS cache >> might have stale data that are not yet on disk. >> It's a brute force clutch, not a real sol

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together next Sunday

2025-08-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone! We are about 10 minutes away from the virtual get-together. I meant to send the URL earlier, but was delayed: FreeDOS virtual get-together (social) Google Meet joining info Video call link: https://meet.google.com/bdf-ohfx-xdv Or dial: ‪(US) +1 276-738-2609‬ PIN: ‪157 838 358‬

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together next Sunday

2025-08-08 Thread Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel
On 8/4/2025 7:10 AM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote: Hi everyone! I wanted to share a reminder that our next virtual get-together is coming up on Sunday. We alternate topics every time, and this meeting will be social time. But I'm sure we'll talk about tech stuff too, we

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-04 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
on whether the disk access has failed or succeeded. A more elegant solution could be to call setinvld in dskxfer itself, instead of the current implementation where two functions call it after THEY called dskxfer. Regards, Eric _______

[Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together next Sunday

2025-08-04 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
(use your favorite timezone converter for your local time) I'll share the link about half an hour before the meeting starts. See you then! _______ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-03 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
On Aug 3, 2025, at 2:54 PM, Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-devel wrote:Hi,El dom, 3 ago 2025 a las 2:34, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel (<freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>) escribió:> I agree that you would get better performance when > raw writes just UPDATE buffer content

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-03 Thread Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-devel
Hi, El dom, 3 ago 2025 a las 2:34, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel (< freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>) escribió: > > I agree that you would get better performance when > > raw writes just UPDATE buffer contents instead of > > triggering full cache INVALIDATION. >

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDO S Interim Build T2508

2025-08-02 Thread Bret Johnson via Freedos-devel
ep in mind is that FAT32 and LFN are NOT the same thing even though they both appeared around the same time, and many people conflate the two. You can have LFN's on floppies and small hard drives that use FAT12 & FAT16. FAT32 has nothing to do with Windows, unlike LFN's. _

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-02 Thread tom ehlert via Freedos-devel
while observing the int21_fat32 (dir, fat, data) destination. basically cache dir and fat calls, don't cache data or unknown. > Thoughts about write-combining: leave write_combining for another day. currently this is about bug fixing, not performance enhancing. Leave SMARTDRV like performa

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-02 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
roviding HUGE speed improvements. > I have no idea how DOSLFN performs on MSDOS, but it certainly sucks on FreeDOS. Of course the same applies for FAT32 partitions and int21/7305. _______ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

[Freedos-devel] Repository User Interface Design

2025-08-01 Thread Prime Seal via Freedos-devel
I am not happy with the design of user interface repository as there are no timestamp on the FreeDOS DVDROM iso. can release date be present on the repository more importantly the FreeDOS DVDROM iso? kind regards Seal Prime ___ Freedos-devel mailing

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-01 Thread tom ehlert via Freedos-devel
#x27;s own disk cache, providing HUGE speed improvements. I have no idea how DOSLFN performs on MSDOS, but it certainly sucks on FreeDOS. Of course the same applies for FAT32 partitions and int21/7305. BTW: this applies only for kernels *internal* BUFFERS caches; external caches like UIDE an

[Freedos-devel] DOSLFN bugfix explanations and ideas - was: FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-01 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
transparently; also, it's easy to test: if you don't load a disk cache, the problem should go away; and there's the comment "sector data is held in cache because MS-DOS doesn't cache anything, even when SmartDrv is loaded, when direct disc access is detected" (which was

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-01 Thread Joe Forster/STA via Freedos-devel
unlikely because such disk caches should work transparently; also, it's easy to test: if you don't load a disk cache, the problem should go away; and there's the comment "sector data is held in cache because MS-DOS doesn't cache anything, even when SmartDrv is loaded, when

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-01 Thread Fritz Mueller via Freedos-devel
l via Freedos-devel" To: "FreeDOS Developers" Cc: jer...@shidel.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2508     On Aug 1, 2025, at 8:26 AM, Fritz Mueller via Freedos-devel <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:   Hi, just one question, as I do not

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-01 Thread Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
Hi, > Am 01.08.2025 um 11:54 schrieb Eric Auer via Freedos-devel > : > > How does it do that? I had assumed that there was a kernel problem, > but it also is plausible that DOSLFN manipulates directors cluster > and sector data directly, because the kernel would not do LF

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Aug 1, 2025, at 5:54 AM, Eric Auer via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > >> the 0.42-WIP version of DOSLFN provided by Jason Hood will hopefully resolve >> the filesystem corruption bug that was discussed earlier on the mailing list. > > How

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Aug 1, 2025, at 8:26 AM, Fritz Mueller via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Hi, > just one question, as I do not understand it: The monthly versions are builds > to test new software. Is this correct? So, why not modifying fdnpkg.cfg to > get the latest versions automa

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-01 Thread Fritz Mueller via Freedos-devel
l via Freedos-devel" To: "FreeDOS Developers" Cc: jer...@shidel.net Subject: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2508 The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2508 for August is now available for download at: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-01 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
directors cluster and sector data directly, because the kernel would not do LFN itself, so the corruption was some sort of caching or buffers conflict? So is the fix cache-related, kernel-related, or DOSLFN-itself-related? Eric ___ Freedos-devel mailing list

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2508

2025-08-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2508 for August is now available for download at: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ <https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/> Changes since T2507: 2025-07-24 07:37:03

[Freedos-devel] Fontana v1.1 released

2025-07-20 Thread Ladislav Lacina via Freedos-devel
idn't work _______ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] SourceForge scheduled maintenance

2025-07-08 Thread Kirn Gill II via Freedos-devel
Thanks for the heads up. -- Kirn Gill II Mobile: +1 813-300-2330 <+18133002330> VoIP: +1 813-704-0420 <+18137040420> Email: segin2...@gmail.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/kirn-gill/32/49a/9a6 On Tue, Jul 8, 2025, 13:59 Jim Hall via Freedos-devel < freedos-devel@lists.

[Freedos-devel] SourceForge scheduled maintenance

2025-07-08 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
scheduled maintenance at 6pm PST on Tuesday, July 8th. Some services may be unavailable at this time.* https://fosstodon.org/@sourceforgestatus/114819054545775313 _______ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS hidden partition types

2025-07-07 Thread Michael Brutman via Freedos-devel
ttps://github.com/FDOS/fdisk/blob/a6e3622c959707f1950df8ca4fe94046274ee1a9/doc/fdisk/history.txt#L1032 > [2]: > https://github.com/FDOS/fdisk/blob/a6e3622c959707f1950df8ca4fe94046274ee1a9/doc/fdisk/history.txt#L288 > > Bernd > > > > Am 07.07.2025 um 07:33 schrieb Michael Brutman

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS hidden partition types

2025-07-07 Thread Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
025 um 07:33 schrieb Michael Brutman via Freedos-devel > : > > Over at the Wikipedia "List of partition IDs" I was surprised to find that > FreeDOS FDISK has partition types defined for hidden FAT and Extended > partitions that have different type numbers than the st

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS hidden partition types

2025-07-06 Thread Michael Brutman via Freedos-devel
Over at the Wikipedia "List of partition IDs <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_type>" I was surprised to find that FreeDOS FDISK has partition types defined for hidden FAT and Extended partitions that have different type numbers than the standard hidden versions of tho

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS repository mirror

2025-07-06 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Jul 6, 2025, at 2:18 PM, Andrew Bird via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Hi all, > Can you tell me if there are any official mirrors to the package > repositories? I currently use some of the packages from there in a CI test > and I'm finding that the primary site

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS repository mirror

2025-07-06 Thread Andrew Bird via Freedos-devel
Hi all, Can you tell me if there are any official mirrors to the package repositories? I currently use some of the packages from there in a CI test and I'm finding that the primary site is timing out. https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/ Thanks, A

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2507

2025-07-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Wed, Jul 2, 2025, 7:25 PM Eric Auer via Freedos-devel < freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > [..] > Does this i16 toolchain still depend on DJGPP, which we do not include? > Or am I confusing that i16 stuff with something else? > You are misremembering. The i

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2507

2025-07-02 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
Hi Jerome, I’ve been extremely busy over the last few days. So, I did not get to this until this morning. The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2507 for July is now available for download at: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ Thank you :-) Changes

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2507

2025-07-02 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
I’ve been extremely busy over the last few days. So, I did not get to this until this morning. The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2507 for July is now available for download at: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ Changes since T2506: 2025-06-26 08:35:33

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDRepo NLS

2025-06-26 Thread thraex via Freedos-devel
On 26.06.2025 10:46, Ігор Алексєєв via Freedos-devel wrote: Hello! Hey, I have not a rich experience in usage of FreeDOS or developing for it, but I want to make translation into ukrainian. That's how I started too, so welcome! Currently, only the shell (FreeCOM) is partly translat

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDRepo NLS

2025-06-26 Thread Ігор Алексєєв via Freedos-devel
Hello! I have not a rich experience in usage of FreeDOS or developing for it, but I want to make translation into ukrainian. Please write me your politics about it. Maybe somebody would like to do it too. Whats kind of language files do you use? чт, 26 черв. 2025, 10:28 користувач Jerome Shidel

[Freedos-devel] FDRepo NLS

2025-06-26 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi All, The Official FreeDOS Download and Update Repositories are now browsable in multiple languages. https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/index_de.html <https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/index_de.html> This woul

Re: [Freedos-devel] TCP16 - Pascal compiler

2025-06-25 Thread Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel
On 6/25/2025 6:33 AM, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: Not that it really matters at all. Just curious… Was using leaked code directly or indirectly simply Speculation or proven fact? This was as mentioned long, long time ago. And without actually being able to see the source code, there

Re: [Freedos-devel] TCP16 - Pascal compiler

2025-06-25 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Jun 24, 2025, at 8:46 PM, Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > On 6/24/2025 4:48 PM, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: >> >>> On Jun 24, 2025, at 7:27 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel >>> wrote: >>> >>> On the virt

Re: [Freedos-devel]  Re: FreeDOS Repos

2025-06-24 Thread Wilhelm Spiegl via Freedos-devel
back.Htmlhelp has a converter from unicode to most european cp on board, ask Bernd.But please do not convert to themWilli from sauna--Gesendet mit der mail.com Mail AppAm 24.06.25, 02:12 schrieb Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel lists.sourceforge.net>: > On Jun 23, 2025, at 5:33 PM, Eric Au

Re: [Freedos-devel] TCP16 - Pascal compiler

2025-06-24 Thread Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel
On 6/24/2025 4:48 PM, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: On Jun 24, 2025, at 7:27 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote: On the virtual get-together this weekend, someone (I think it was Jerome?) asked about the TPC16 compiler. This is a Pascal compiler that's supposed to be compa

Re: [Freedos-devel] TCP16 - Pascal compiler

2025-06-24 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Jun 24, 2025, at 7:27 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > On the virtual get-together this weekend, someone (I think it was > Jerome?) asked about the TPC16 compiler. This is a Pascal compiler > that's supposed to be compatible with Borland

[Freedos-devel] TCP16 - Pascal compiler

2025-06-24 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
the author about it. Here's the reply: >>> the compiler is not open source, however, in the demo archive there is the exe file of TPC16: https://turbo51.com/compiler-design/tpc16-turbo-pascal-compiler-written-in-turbo-pascal <<< _________

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Repos

2025-06-23 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Jun 23, 2025, at 5:33 PM, Eric Auer via Freedos-devel > wrote: > >  > Hi! > > Quick question... > > Does the online FDRepo v3 data also support existing > installations which expect older data online, or will > everybody who has installed FreeDOS in th

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Repos

2025-06-23 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
Hi! Quick question... Does the online FDRepo v3 data also support existing installations which expect older data online, or will everybody who has installed FreeDOS in the recent past have to reinstall and/or update repo handling tools? Regards, Eric PS: I also think we should keep offering

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Repos

2025-06-23 Thread Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
g data. That would be good, thanks Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Repos

2025-06-23 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Jun 23, 2025, at 8:15 AM, Fritz Mueller via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Ah, I understand. The problem is close to what we have with htmlhelp. > > Have a look at: https://www.wolfgang-frank.eu/hc.php Thank you for this link. It is a great page and I like it better tha

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Repos

2025-06-23 Thread Fritz Mueller via Freedos-devel
replacements work on the server.   Willi     Sent: Monday, June 23, 2025 at 1:13 PM From: "Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel" To: "FreeDOS Developers" Cc: jer...@shidel.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Repos Hi Willi,   On Jun 23, 2025, at 6:31 AM, Fritz Muell

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOSLFN, Was: FreeDOS Repos

2025-06-23 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
one… When some packages are installed by FDNPKG under the FreeDOS kernel when the DOSLFN driver is loaded, the some of the files created by the install are damaged and the filesystem is corrupted. This occurs regardless of the type of FAT and even if the package does not contain any files t

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Repos

2025-06-23 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Willi, > On Jun 23, 2025, at 6:31 AM, Fritz Mueller via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Hi Jerome, > german uses only the special characters: äÄ, öÖ,üÜ and ß, these are even part > of CP 437. > So I think adding german should work. > You can find the characters äöü

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Repos

2025-06-23 Thread Fritz Mueller via Freedos-devel
these characters simply ask me.   Maybe French and Spanish are a little more complex, as they use some special characters.     Another question: Will Bernd worry about doslfn?   Willi     Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2025 at 11:09 PM From: "Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel" To: "Free

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Repos

2025-06-22 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
d for free. :-) _______ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday

2025-06-22 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Thanks to everyone who joined today's virtual get-together! We explored Jerome's new "FDRepo" (listings of the FreeDOS official distributions) which is now live at https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/ We also did some debugging with Bernd on

Re: [Freedos-devel] GNU tar or tar?

2025-06-22 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
>> On May 22, 2025, at 8:08 AM, Fritz Mueller via Freedos-devel >> wrote: >> >> Is there really no one who can say which version should be used in >> the future FDTlive CDs? On Wed, Jun 4, 2025 at 3:31 PM Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: [..] > Willi

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday

2025-06-22 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone! I'm looking forward to seeing you on the virtual get-together, in 25 minutes from now (I'm sending this at 10:34 my time). Here's the connection info. See you soon! FreeDOS virtual get-together (technical) Sunday, Jun 22 • 11:00 AM – 12:00 PM Google Meet joining

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday

2025-06-21 Thread victoria crenshaw via Freedos-devel
hey jim i am at VCF-SW. i am promoting FreeDOS there! :D i will not be available for the meet up. apologies https://www.vcfsw.org/ On 6/20/25 17:04, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote: Hi everyone! Just sending a reminder that our next FreeDOS virtual get-together is this Sunday, June 22

[Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday

2025-06-20 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone! Just sending a reminder that our next FreeDOS virtual get-together is this Sunday, June 22. Same time as always: 11am US/Central .. use your favorite time zone converter to find your local time. We alternate topics every time, and last time was "social" so this one wil

Re: [Freedos-devel] RPNV calculator

2025-06-18 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Jun 18, 2025, at 5:25 AM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 1:32 AM Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel > <mailto:freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: > > It looks interesting. > > But, I think I have

Re: [Freedos-devel] RPNV calculator

2025-06-18 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 1:32 AM Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel < freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > It looks interesting. > > But, I think I have know idea on how to use such a calculator. > > I tried entering “12-5” and got -7 as the answer. Probably me.

Re: [Freedos-devel] RPNV calculator

2025-06-17 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Dec 2, 2024, at 3:32 PM, Davide Erbetta via Freedos-devel > wrote: There is nothing like a quick and timely reply… > > > Hi all, > > please let me share with you this tiny project: it's written in C with FED > editor and compiled with Open Watcom, all i

[Freedos-devel] Code page 60258, why letter I is dotted?

2025-06-12 Thread Joe Forster/STA via Freedos-devel
Hi guys, I'm testing my own software with all code pages available in FreeDOS. (List of code pages taken from DOC/CPIDOS/codepage.txt in \packages\base\cpidos.zip.) I noticed that, in code page 60258 (Russian, Bulgarian and Azeri), the glyph for uppercase I (ASCII 0x49) is a _do

Re: [Freedos-devel] File Name Bug

2025-06-11 Thread Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
> Am 10.06.2025 um 23:13 schrieb tom ehlert via Freedos-devel > : > > Not FD CHKDSK? For a reason? FAT32? The reason is that it was already on my disk and is WAY faster than CHKDSK. But FD CHKDSK reports equivalent errors. Setting BUFFERS=1 has no effect on the bug. I also chec

Re: [Freedos-devel] File Name Bug

2025-06-10 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Tom, > On Jun 10, 2025, at 5:13 PM, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel > wrote: > Hi, > > some comments. > > First, I find it absolutely remarkable that the combination of FreeDOS kernel > and DOSLFN went without > reported problems for 20+ years. So much

Re: [Freedos-devel] File Name Bug

2025-06-10 Thread Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-devel
2025 at 11:48 AM, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: > Hi All, > > A few days ago, Willi discovered an odd File Name related bug. > > When installing the ADT2 package[1] from the repository at FD.LOD.BZ using > FDNPKG, it would install the 999 files in the package. How

Re: [Freedos-devel] File Name Bug

2025-06-10 Thread tom ehlert via Freedos-devel
Hi, some comments. First, I find it absolutely remarkable that the combination of FreeDOS kernel and DOSLFN went without reported problems for 20+ years. So much for 'testing' by installing ... >> Am 10.06.2025 um 14:19 schrieb Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel >> : >

Re: [Freedos-devel] File Name Bug

2025-06-10 Thread Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
Hi, > Am 10.06.2025 um 14:19 schrieb Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel > : > > When installing the ADT2 package[1] from the repository at FD.LOD.BZ using > FDNPKG, it would install the 999 files in the package. However, the > FREEDOS\PACKAGES\ADT2.LST file would only contain

[Freedos-devel] File Name Bug

2025-06-10 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi All, A few days ago, Willi discovered an odd File Name related bug. When installing the ADT2 package[1] from the repository at FD.LOD.BZ using FDNPKG, it would install the 999 files in the package. However, the FREEDOS\PACKAGES\ADT2.LST file would only contain about 300 entries

Re: [Freedos-devel] Font editor Fontana - finaly released!

2025-06-08 Thread Ladislav Lacina via Freedos-devel
Thank you, just fixed the download links you mentioned. Laaca -- Původní e-mail -- Od: Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel Komu: FreeDOS Developers Kopie: jer...@shidel.net Datum: 8. 6. 2025 10:06:44 Předmět: Re: [Freedos-devel] Font editor Fontana - finaly released! " "

Re: [Freedos-devel] Font editor Fontana - finaly released!

2025-06-08 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Jun 7, 2025, at 8:01 PM, Ladislav Lacina via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Fontana v1.0 > > Fontána (or Fontana) is a bitmap font editor designed for the DOS operating > system. It allows you to open, create, edit, and combine a wide ra

[Freedos-devel] Font editor Fontana - finaly released!

2025-06-07 Thread Ladislav Lacina via Freedos-devel
.cz/blocek) (English) http://www.laaca.borec.cz(http://www.laaca.borec.cz) (Czech)_______ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] Errors in .COM loader

2025-06-05 Thread Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
um 12:27 schrieb Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel > : > > There are errors in the .COM loader. Under some circumstances it allocates > not enough memory. There is an issue at Github [1]. > > a) needed size is not rounded up to paragraph, but rounded DOWN. > b) the loade

[Freedos-devel] Errors in .COM loader

2025-06-05 Thread Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel
mem = exp->load.load_seg; _______ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] GNU tar or tar?

2025-06-04 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On May 22, 2025, at 8:08 AM, Fritz Mueller via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Is there really no one who can say which version should be used in the future > FDTlive CDs? It is very disappointing that no-one felt inclined to investigate this issue. Fortunately as work is concl

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