Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-20 Thread Japheth
Be polite never late! You're right. But to be safe I will maintain a tiny security distance between me and everything FD-related in the future. PS: Last 5 days news.openwatcom.org misbehaves for me. Is it my troubles or it broken itself? I've experienced the same troubles. It seems to

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-20 Thread Johnson Lam
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 06:32:11 +0200, you wrote: I never seen similar reports before, so Michael, probably, unaware about this behavior and thus have no chance to fix it. :) Yes, let's assume this. :) XMS free blocks fragmentation ... they should not exist (now is 21 century!). I hope he found

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-20 Thread Michael Devore
At 02:39 PM 7/20/2006 +0800, someone wrote: On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 06:32:11 +0200, you wrote: I never seen similar reports before, so Michael, probably, unaware about this behavior and thus have no chance to fix it. :) Yes, let's assume this. :) XMS free blocks fragmentation ... they should

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-20 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 20-Июл-2006 08:15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japheth) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: Be polite never late! J You're right. But to be safe I will maintain a tiny security distance between J me and everything FD-related in the future. Do you think, that distance allows/mean

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-20 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 20-Июл-2006 14:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johnson Lam) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: JL XMS free blocks fragmentation ... they should not exist (now is 21 JL century!). Dynamic memory fragmentation was and will exist in any century. This is unavoidable behavior. Issue is

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-20 Thread Japheth
Do you think, that distance allows/mean more rude behavior?! :) :( No, it means using Bugzilla for bug reports - if anything at all. :) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-20 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 20-Июл-2006 12:09 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japheth) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: Do you think, that distance allows/mean more rude behavior?! :) :( J No, it means using Bugzilla for bug reports - if anything at all. :) Strange. I was think, that bugzilla, private email

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-20 Thread Japheth
Strange. I was think, that bugzilla, private email or post in group is only ways to transfer reports to author and have nothing with distance between me and program. Bugzilla is more complicated and you have to login - several - times. That makes you think twice before you indeed post

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-20 Thread Michael Devore
At 05:50 PM 7/20/2006 +0800, Johnson Lam wrote: On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:52:02 -0500, you wrote: XMS free blocks fragmentation ... they should not exist (now is 21 century!). I hope he found the time to fix it. Fragmentation always exists, and if you were a programmer you would know

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-20 Thread Jim Hall
Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Hi! 20-Июл-2006 12:09 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japheth) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: Do you think, that distance allows/mean more rude behavior?! :) :( J No, it means using Bugzilla for bug reports - if anything at all. :) Strange.

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-20 Thread tom ehlert
Seems FD-HIMEM can't do a MERGE with others free blocks, even the MS-HIMEM did the job well. My friend told me how but sorry I'm not allow to tell details, Wow. 'I'm not allowed to tell the details...' seems to suggest that's it's some ingenious (patent pending) technology art. In fact it's maybe

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-20 Thread Japheth
btw: it looks to me as if japeth wrote a tiny program to produce the bug; it's always helpful for maintainers if they get this program/source/description how to reproduce, so the time to reproduce the bug (and thereby time spend on the problem) is significant reduced, and often motivation to

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-20 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 20-Июл-2006 12:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japheth) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: Strange. I was think, that bugzilla, private email or post in group is only ways to transfer reports to author and have nothing with distance between me and program. J Bugzilla is more

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-19 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 19-Июл-2006 06:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japheth) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: Total all or total free? If first, then this is bug. J RBIL is a bit unclear, but given that the FD-Himem competitors are correct it J is meant total free. If you mean Table 02758 (In:

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-19 Thread Blair Campbell
Arkady: I think that news.openwatcom.org is broken at the moment -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Take Surveys.

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-18 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 17-Июл-2006 12:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: And there remains issue with nested comments. MD No issue; no nesting. Ergo, I'm not changing it. In reply, rather than MD quoting boring old pre-ISO C compiler options, please instead trace

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-18 Thread Jim Hall
And there remains issue with nested comments. MD No issue; no nesting. Ergo, I'm not changing it. In reply, rather than MD quoting boring old pre-ISO C compiler options, please instead trace support MD back to the far more enriching Magna Carta. King John of England's

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-18 Thread Japheth
There is a bug left in the FD-Himem.exe memory manager. When a program that had allocated several XMS blocks doesn't release these blocks in the order FD-Himem likes it, it will report a too small largest free block. Luckily the memory is not permanently lost, FD-Himem is able to regenerate

[Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-18 Thread Michael Devore
Oops, this reply goes to both lists I guess. Or I'm seeing double on your original post. At 06:20 PM 7/18/2006 +0200, Japheth wrote: There is a bug left in the FD-Himem.exe memory manager. Nope. But see further... When a program that had allocated several XMS blocks doesn't release these

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-18 Thread Michael Devore
At 09:24 PM 7/18/2006 +0200, Japheth wrote: As already mentioned, the block merges are not done on allocation, at least not in all cases, since my simple try to alloc a block which exceeded the reported largest size failed. Else I would probably have hesitated to call it a bug. Tonight's code

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-18 Thread Michael Devore
At 10:50 PM 7/18/2006 +0200, Japheth wrote: Here is another CORRECT, but not terribly GOOD behaviour of FD-Himem (newest version!): snip After these tests I understand now the reasons which brought QHIMEM into existance. Thank you for a most reasoned and pleasant remark. It is a

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-18 Thread Japheth
Thank you for a most reasoned and pleasant remark. It is a particularly enlightened remark to make in view of recent mail-list history. In any case, you have certainly modified my overall view of your attitude and willingness to act as a responsible party in reporting errors and

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-18 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 18-Июл-2006 10:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hall) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: JH I don't have my copy of Kernighan Ritchie's C Programming Language JH (ed. 2) with me to show you, but here is an excerpt from ISO/IEC JH 9899:TC2 WG14/N1124 Committee Draft - May 6, 2005 (6.4.9

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-18 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 18-Июл-2006 22:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japheth) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: J 1. the xms state after booting FD without EMM386: J XMS3+ total extended memory (kB): 785088 J 2. the xms state after allocation of 1024 kB: J XMS3+ largest free block (kB): 784064 J XMS3+ total

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-18 Thread Michael Devore
At 11:48 PM 7/18/2006 +0200, Japheth wrote: Thank you for a most reasoned and pleasant remark. It is a particularly enlightened remark to make in view of recent mail-list history. In any case, you have certainly modified my overall view of your attitude and willingness to act as a

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-17 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Салям! 15-Июл-2006 01:19 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: MD Uploaded to ftp://ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386/ are the files MD emmx211.zip, EMM386 version 2.11 memory manager, mostly executable files; MD and emms211.zip, source code

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-17 Thread Japheth
No issue; no nesting. Ergo, I'm not changing it. In reply, rather than quoting boring old pre-ISO C compiler options, please instead trace support back to the far more enriching Magna Carta. King John of England's viewpoint on how an unpaired '/*' inside of a comment block makes the

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-17 Thread Japheth
After fixing the first error, I'm getting: --- C:\FREEDOS\EMM386\SOURCE\EMM386d:\alt\tc201\make MAKE Version 2.0 Copyright (c) 1987, 1988 Borland International Available memory 563902 bytes d:\alt\tc201\tcc -G- -w -r

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-17 Thread Michael Devore
At 08:07 PM 7/17/2006 +0200, Japheth wrote: After fixing the first error... Nomenclature correction: fixing ^^^ modifying source to remove error ^^^ warning So that: After fixing the first error... properly becomes: After modifying the source to remove the first warning... In

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-17 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 17-Июл-2006 19:35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japheth) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: J There is a small issue which I have to cure on every new release: J Turbo C Version 2.01 Copyright (c) 1987, 1988 Borland International J emm386c.c: J Warning emm386c.c 801: 'temphandle' declared

[Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-15 Thread Michael Devore
Uploaded to ftp://ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386/ are the files emmx211.zip, EMM386 version 2.11 memory manager, mostly executable files; and emms211.zip, source code files. 2.11 is a minor update from 2.10 -- minor, of course, unless you need it. EMM386 2.11 fixes a problem with a

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-15 Thread Blair Campbell
Just in time :-) (15 min left here) On 7/14/06, Michael Devore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uploaded to ftp://ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386/ are the files emmx211.zip, EMM386 version 2.11 memory manager, mostly executable files; and emms211.zip, source code files. 2.11 is a minor update

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-15 Thread Jim Hall
I also mirrored this release on ibiblio, and updated the LSM on the web site. :-) Blair Campbell wrote: Just in time :-) (15 min left here) On 7/14/06, Michael Devore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uploaded to ftp://ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386/ are the files emmx211.zip, EMM386

Re: [Freedos-devel] EMM386 2.11 minor update, VDS fix

2006-07-15 Thread Michael Devore
At 12:06 PM 7/15/2006 -0500, Jim Hall wrote: I also mirrored this release on ibiblio, and updated the LSM on the web site. :-) Can you update the freedos.org website to point to 2.11? I dunno if it needs an UPDATE message below original text. Maybe minor VDS patch, or whatever. Unrelated,