Re: [Freedos-devel] Fwd: ACPI auto power ON

2022-01-17 Thread Bret Johnson
> Why would ACPI somehow have to be less powerful than the rest of the > computer firmware? ACPI is not actually firmware -- ACPI doesn't actually DO anything like firmware does. Firmware is sort of like "permanent software" (executable code stored usually in non-volatile RAM or ROM), while

Re: [Freedos-devel] Fwd: ACPI auto power ON

2022-01-14 Thread TK Chia
Hello Bret, My overall point was that you can't turn on the PSU (to boot the computer) with ACPI because ACPI only starts working after the computer (main part of the motherboard) already has power and has booted an OS. You can't turn the PSU on with software (like ACPI) that requires the

Re: [Freedos-devel] Fwd: ACPI auto power ON

2022-01-14 Thread Bret Johnson
> Modern motherboards use this "Standby" power to run small always-on > power management circuitry (I believe this is integrated directly > into the chipset these days) which monitors all sources of a "power > on" signal, be it the power button on the case, or a LAN controller, > or a built-in

Re: [Freedos-devel] Fwd: ACPI auto power ON

2022-01-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 23:14, Bret Johnson wrote: > > You all are missing the point. As soon as the motherboard gets power, it > starts booting. That is how it has always worked. No, Bret, *you* are missing the point. This is not about the _motherboard_ getting power. It is about the

Re: [Freedos-devel] Fwd: ACPI auto power ON

2022-01-13 Thread Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-devel
Well, I may as well throw my two cents in here. :) On computers using a standard ATX power supply, pin #9 on the connector provides power to the motherboard at all times as long as the PSU itself has AC wall power power coming in. Modern motherboards use this "Standby" power to run small

Re: [Freedos-devel] Fwd: ACPI auto power ON

2022-01-13 Thread Bret Johnson
> there is absolutely nothing complicated to have a > > "on power return, boot computer" > > option. it used to be the default. You all are missing the point. As soon as the motherboard gets power, it starts booting. That is how it has always worked. The problem is how to get the appropriate

Re: [Freedos-devel] Fwd: ACPI auto power ON

2022-01-13 Thread Parodper
O 13/01/22 ás 19:52, tom ehlert escribiu: There are all sorts of complications that can be added to the scenario (like Uninterruptible Power Sources or "blade computers" where you plug a "card with a computer on it" into an industrial chassis of some sort), but for a "regular" computer the power

Re: [Freedos-devel] Fwd: ACPI auto power ON

2022-01-13 Thread tom ehlert
Bret you are right most of the times, but: >> Is there a way via the ACPI\s API to tell ACPI to automatically power >> on after power loss AND when the BIOS SETUP does not include such >> setting? > The short answer is no, that is not possible. this option has been available for the last ~30

Re: [Freedos-devel] Fwd: ACPI auto power ON

2022-01-13 Thread Bret Johnson
> Is there a way via the ACPI\s API to tell ACPI to automatically power > on after power loss AND when the BIOS SETUP does not include such > setting? The short answer is no, that is not possible. The long answer is that what you're talking about really has nothing to do with ACPI and rather

Re: [Freedos-devel] Fwd: ACPI auto power ON

2022-01-13 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Jan 13, 2022, at 9:14 AM, Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > This feature was nonstandard across various BIOS implementations, so it is > highly likely that if the BIOS does not support it via its built-in interface > (the "Press to enter SETUP" prompt) it is probably

Re: [Freedos-devel] Fwd: ACPI auto power ON

2022-01-13 Thread Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-devel
This feature was nonstandard across various BIOS implementations, so it is highly likely that if the BIOS does not support it via its built-in interface (the "Press to enter SETUP" prompt) it is probably entirely unavailable. Just to be sure, I checked the [CMOS Memory Map

[Freedos-devel] Fwd: ACPI auto power ON

2022-01-13 Thread Ladislav Lacina
Hello experts here! I am forwarding you a question abou ACPI interface. Although I am the author of ACPITOOL I am not able to answer it. Thanks -- Původní e-mail -- Od: retro devices Komu: la...@seznam.cz Datum: 13. 1. 2022 0:36:10 Předmět: ACPI auto power ON "Hi and thank you