Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-19 Thread Markus Laire
On 8/18/06, Michael Devore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone wanted to create a ruckus, they could point out that every time someone allowed a commercial program for testing and debugging be sent to anyone else, they technically violated copyright. And that's been accepted practice for

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-19 Thread Lyrical Nanoha
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006, Andreas Bollhalder wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Markus Laire wrote: I think it's quite clear that www.bootdisk.com is a warez-site. Where did you read that ? Do you really know, that they don't have asked for permission ? I saw this site

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-19 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 19-Авг-2006 15:04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Laire) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: ML You didn't mention the software there, only the license, so I throught ML that you meant that you could give a license to someone else, and ML he/she should then download the program from

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Lyrical Nanoha
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Markus Laire wrote: On 8/17/06, Mark Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael: Try www.bootdisk.com. boot622.exe will extract a usable MSDOS boot Is that legal? I didn't find any kind of legal FAQ from that site. Nope. -uso.

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! Try www.bootdisk.com. ... Is that legal? Nope. So FreeDOS 1.0 will be buggy software, created using illegal software. I would not say so. Michael compared MS DOS behaviour to FreeDOS behaviour to find a bug. To ensure compatibility (interoperability), even limited reverse engineering

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Markus Laire
On 8/18/06, Lyrical Nanoha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Markus Laire wrote: On 8/17/06, Mark Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael: Try www.bootdisk.com. boot622.exe will extract a usable MSDOS boot Is that legal? I didn't find any kind of legal FAQ from that

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Andre Tertling
Eric Auer wrote: Hi! Try www.bootdisk.com. ... Is that legal? Nope. So FreeDOS 1.0 will be buggy software, created using illegal software. I would not say so. Michael compared MS DOS behaviour to FreeDOS behaviour to find a bug. To ensure compatibility (interoperability), even

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 18-Авг-2006 13:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Laire) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: Try www.bootdisk.com. boot622.exe will extract a usable MSDOS boot Is that legal? I didn't find any kind of legal FAQ from that site. Nope. ML So FreeDOS 1.0 will be buggy software,

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Markus Laire
On 8/18/06, Andre Tertling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would not say so. Michael compared MS DOS behaviour to FreeDOS behaviour to find a bug. To ensure compatibility (interoperability), even limited reverse engineering would have been allowed in Germany. But that was not IMHO reverse

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Markus Laire
On 8/18/06, Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You probably know that MS DOS 1.0 did not even support subdirectories... ;-). While FreeDOS 1.0 is delayed because we keep adding features to our wishlist. Some of which are beyond MS DOS 6.xx! I wasn't really thinking MS DOS 1.0, but the

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Andre Tertling
Markus Laire wrote: I don't really know if it's legal to use illegally acquired program if you have a license for the program but not the program itself. Do you really want to start a lengthy discussion about whether I am using a legitimately created backup with my original license or not? For

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Michael Devore
At 01:06 PM 8/18/2006 +0200, Andre Tertlingwrote: P.S. I am sure I have a stack of MS-DOS licenses somewhere in the basement. If someone really wants to have one, feel free to apply. Heck, I still have at least two sets of MS-DOS floppies down in basement somewhere. Don't know if they work,

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Blair Campbell
So to end this thread, since Michael already seems to own MS-DOS but just wants an easier way of getting it on his hard drive, it is perfectly legal to use. On 8/18/06, Michael Devore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:06 PM 8/18/2006 +0200, Andre Tertlingwrote: P.S. I am sure I have a stack of

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Michael Devore
At 10:54 AM 8/18/2006 -0700, Blair Campbell wrote: So to end this thread, since Michael already seems to own MS-DOS but just wants an easier way of getting it on his hard drive, it is perfectly legal to use. Well, who doesn't have legal MS-DOS, if they ever had a machine back when. It was

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-18 Thread Jim Hall
I feel it's important to get 1.0 out there to draw a line in the sand, that we're at least 1.0 quality. We can do what MS-DOS could do. Maybe we have a few bugs, but (and maybe this is a sad fact) what 1.0 software doesn't have bugs? People expect it. But marking a 1.0 release means you can

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-17 Thread Mark Bailey
Hi Michael: Try www.bootdisk.com. boot622.exe will extract a usable MSDOS boot floppy. It wants a disk drive...if you don't have one, I'd suggest using VFD to capture the image. (A very useful program that assigns a drive letter to a virtual floppy disk drive and can use a file as a floppy).

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS image

2006-08-17 Thread Michael Devore
At 04:54 PM 8/17/2006 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: Try www.bootdisk.com. boot622.exe will extract a usable MSDOS boot floppy. Cool deal. What you sent boots up under Qemu no problemo. Thanks. - Using Tomcat but need to do