Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-15 Thread Jim Hall
Jerome wrote: > Like Tom said, there are books available. > > With few exceptions, the books are much better than trying to learn this > stuff from websites. Most of the stuff you will find online probably > will not go into the details you need. In my opinion, most of the > online stuff requires

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-10 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Jan 10, 2023, at 4:14 AM, Knedlik wrote: > > Hello all again, > thanks for all the responses. Definitely useful stuff. I’d just like to > respond to the concerns regarding the VM - I’m afraid I don’t have any > silicon able to run FreeDOS. My main computer is not only an overkill

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-10 Thread Louis Santillan
One reference, HelpPC might also be useful (https://stanislavs.org/helppc/). On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 1:32 AM Carsten Strotmann via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Hi, > > On 10 Jan 2023, at 10:13, Knedlik wrote: > > > Hello all again, > > thanks for all the responses. Definitely useful stuff. I’d just

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-10 Thread Carsten Strotmann via Freedos-devel
Hi, On 10 Jan 2023, at 10:13, Knedlik wrote: > Hello all again, > thanks for all the responses. Definitely useful stuff. I’d just like to > respond to the concerns regarding the VM - I’m afraid I don’t have any > silicon able to run FreeDOS. My main computer is not only an overkill (Ryzen > 5

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-10 Thread Knedlik
Hello all again, thanks for all the responses. Definitely useful stuff. I’d just like to respond to the concerns regarding the VM - I’m afraid I don’t have any silicon able to run FreeDOS. My main computer is not only an overkill (Ryzen 5 3600X, SSD, RTX 2060, 32 gigs of RAM), but I don’t think

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-09 Thread Carsten Strotmann via Freedos-devel
Hi, On 9 Jan 2023, at 19:51, Knedlik wrote: > Any help with places to learn this stuff will be appreciated. the Internet Archive has many good (old) books on MS-DOS/PC development that are still valid today: Greetings Carsten

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-09 Thread jerome
Hi, > On Jan 9, 2023, at 6:44 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > > On 1/9/2023 10:51 AM, Knedlik wrote: >> Hello! >> I have quite some experience programming in various languages ranging from >> Python to C++ on modern x64 and Arm64 hardware, but I seem stuck when >> wanting to do something on DOS. I’m

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-09 Thread Ralf Quint
On 1/9/2023 10:51 AM, Knedlik wrote: Hello! I have quite some experience programming in various languages ranging from Python to C++ on modern x64 and Arm64 hardware, but I seem stuck when wanting to do something on DOS. I’m mainly stuck at advanced stuff like graphics mode, audio, extending

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-09 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Jan 9, 2023, at 2:46 PM, Knedlik wrote: > > That’s actually a good question. > I would say the second option, as I’m in for the trip to DOS world for > learning how it worked in „the old days“. I do have FreeDOS running on a VM > on my Mac, so that I can access it at pretty much any

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-09 Thread Knedlik
That’s actually a good question. I would say the second option, as I’m in for the trip to DOS world for learning how it worked in „the old days“. I do have FreeDOS running on a VM on my Mac, so that I can access it at pretty much any time when I have *a* computer with me. I will definitely

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-09 Thread Louis Santillan
Depends on where you want to start. Do you want to learn an API/library like Allegro or DOjS and start "extending system" sooner? Or would you rather learn how to write against the VGA or VESA standards or other hardware standards? If the latter, then PCGPE would be helpful

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-09 Thread Knedlik
Thanks a lot Louis, that is definitely something to look at. I suppose the general way to learn stuff in this world is to look at the source code of other applications? -Knedlik ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-09 Thread Louis Santillan
Otherwise, Allegro and DOjS likely your best bets today. On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:25 AM Louis Santillan wrote: > > You'll want to look at > > Allegro 4.4.3 for DOS > (https://liballeg.org/stabledocs/en/readme.html), a complete game C > library for DOS and djgpp. > > Microwindows for DOS

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-09 Thread Louis Santillan
You'll want to look at Allegro 4.4.3 for DOS (https://liballeg.org/stabledocs/en/readme.html), a complete game C library for DOS and djgpp. Microwindows for DOS (https://github.com/ghaerr/microwindows), a Windowing system with Win32 and X11 like APIs available, also for djgpp. DOjS

[Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-09 Thread Knedlik
Hello! I have quite some experience programming in various languages ranging from Python to C++ on modern x64 and Arm64 hardware, but I seem stuck when wanting to do something on DOS. I’m mainly stuck at advanced stuff like graphics mode, audio, extending the base system, and also if it’s even