Hi Christian,
strange that Lucho would make 4DOS unavailable to non-Chinese??
I do not think the 4DOS license would let him do that...
I agree that JWASM is not bad. On the other hand, even the
OpenWatcom compiler does not seem to be open enough for the
taste of Fedora, and JWASM is based on Ope
>>> Is the 4DOS license okay for Fedora?
>
>> I doubt this. Lucho added some ridiculous
>> crap and limitations to it.
>
> Strong words, do you have examples of changes
> in 4DOS that are unpleasant for you / others?
I'm talking about the license here. Just read what he writes about it on
the ma
Hi Christian,
>> Is the 4DOS license okay for Fedora?
> I doubt this. Lucho added some ridiculous
> crap and limitations to it.
Strong words, do you have examples of changes
in 4DOS that are unpleasant for you / others?
> Yeah, but ask Japheth whether he wants to keep NoMySo compatibility
> at
> Please note that Masm is the original, it closely implements the syntax
> which
> was suggested by the cpu manufacturer - Intel. The Nasm/Fasm/Yasm/Rosasm
> variants implement something which probably works as well, and one can't
> prevent them from calling their syntax assembly because this l
> Yeah, but ask Japheth whether he wants to keep NoMySo compatibility at all
> or whether he would use NoMySo once and then develop his software for
> NASM. I beat the answer is no.
This is probably true. But please don't get me wrong: I love Nasm. It's just
that once you're used to drive a M
> DOSLFN is probably not free enough for Fedora [...]
I wasn't talking especially about Linux license compatibility here, sorry.
> Is the 4DOS license okay for Fedora?
I doubt this. Lucho added some ridiculous crap and limitations to it.
> Not really written for - Japheth just stopped keeping a
Hi Christian,
> Assembling anything on NASM is a nice goal (for me, anyway) but isn't yet
> achieved and probably won't ever be. For example, DOSLFN requires TASM
DOSLFN is probably not free enough for Fedora as LFN are patented??
> IDEAL mode and the assembly source files of much advertise
> The FreeDOS Spec says:
>
> "Our reference C compiler is OpenWatcom C. (Borland C 3.1 was
> originally chosen as the reference standard because this is the
> compiler used to build the FreeDOS kernel. However, it is preferable
> to use entirely free tools to create FreeDOS.)"
> [...]
> "This does
2009/3/24 Japheth :
> I'm not a lawyer. But I used my brain and asked myself the following
> questions:
>
> 1. What is Open Watcom, is it a part of Sybase?
> 2. If OW is NOT a part of Sybase, is it a - juristic - person which probably
> could have a - disclosed - contract with Sybase concerning t
> More importantly, it means a
> developer cannot download the source code, make changes to suit
> his/her needs, and SHARE those changes with others.
I did exactly this with JWasm. I also read the Sybase license. I found parts
of it unclear, apparently contradictory, may be even nonsense.
I'm
> That does indeed sound a bit exotic. Note that "userland" of
> FreeDOS contains quite a few DJGPP (GNU C for DOS) based apps.
DJGPP can also be compiled as a cross-compiler, so DJGPP apps could
even be compiled in native linux.
Another option is to pass commands to a dos-based compiler through
d
> The problem for the Fedora Project is that the license used by
> OpenWatcom is not "Free according to FSF. That means Fedora cannot use
> OpenWatcom, so the OP is asking for alternatives that might meet the
> FSF's standard.
Some distributions have a non-free category. Does Fedora not have
one?
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Eric Auer wrote:
>> Seems like FreeDOS can be built with Watcom C and Borland C
>> Compiler only, both of which are non-free.
>
> I do not remember who said Watcom C but things which needed
> Borland C now often compile with the free-from-Borland-museum
> Turbo C a
Hi! I hope you can forward the details :-)
> Hi, I'm currently trying to create a dosemu RPM package for Fedora.
Thanks!
> problem seems to be with including a binary freedos image,
> does anyone know if compilation from linux is even possible,
> or with a free compiler? Here is the issue:
Cr
> How open-source is OpenWatcom?
unable or just too lazy to use google.com ?
Tom
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, solarflow99 wrote:
> Hi, I'm currently trying to create a dosemu RPM package for Fedora. One
> problem seems to be with including a binary freedos image, does anyone know
> if compilation from linux is even possible, or with a free compiler? Here
> is the issue:
>
>
> ---
Hi, I'm currently trying to create a dosemu RPM package for Fedora. One
problem seems to be with including a binary freedos image, does anyone know
if compilation from linux is even possible, or with a free compiler? Here
is the issue:
--- Comment #49 from Lubomir Rintel > 2009-03-23
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