Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2015-01-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > > Actually, opendos version 7.01 (or caldera dos depending on when you > purchased it) > did have multitasking, and it worked fairly well. The problem was, setting > it up and > getting it to run properly was a bear. I did finally ac

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2015-01-03 Thread Aitor SantamarĂ­a
Hello, 2015-01-03 19:00 GMT+01:00 Mercury Thirteen : > As far as I have seen, DOS allocates one Program Segment Prefix and runs > an app in that segment. When you exit the program, it clears that app out > then loads the next one you run in the same segment. I don't think it would > be that hard

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2015-01-03 Thread Mercury Thirteen
As far as I have seen, DOS allocates one Program Segment Prefix and runs an app in that segment. When you exit the program, it clears that app out then loads the next one you run in the same segment. I don't think it would be that hard to make it allocate an additional PSP every time a new app is l

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2015-01-03 Thread Travis Siegel
Actually, opendos version 7.01 (or caldera dos depending on when you purchased it) did have multitasking, and it worked fairly well. The problem was, setting it up and getting it to run properly was a bear. I did finally accomplish it, but it was a tough nut to crack, and I didn't use it long,

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2015-01-03 Thread Travis Siegel
Actually, if it could be rolled in, I believe the vmix32 project would be an excellent 32-bit dos multitasking solution. I ran vmix when it was version 2.67, and it not only worked, (in my case) it worked too well. I had multiple programs running, and because of the method vmix used to virtual

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2015-01-02 Thread Bertho Grandpied
On Wed, 31 Dec 2014, Jim Hall wrote : > let's look at the history of DOS > MSDOS 4 had multitasking, but that was taken out before MSDOS 4.01. Lest I forgot, a happy new year to all ! And, Jim, a correction, as you seem to be confused here. Mutitasking DOS was "European MSDOS 4", a differ

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2015-01-02 Thread Jim Hall
The list of features on the kickstarter seem to be copied/pasted from the FreeDOS-32 page: http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net Jim On Dec 31, 2014 1:03 PM, wrote: > > I'm curious what the specific uses are being proposed for FreeDOS-32 ? > > The kickstarter site mentions supporting DJGPP compiled

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2015-01-02 Thread Mercury Thirteen
I didn't see any mention of that, but it would be a great place to start... -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is yo

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2015-01-02 Thread imre . leber
Verzonden: Vrijdag 2 januari 2015 08:53:11 Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0 Just to put in my own two cents. The lastest happening thing is all about open source hardware. Open source operating systems are so 2000. Intel has recently released a number of x86

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2015-01-01 Thread imre . leber
Just to put in my own two cents. The lastest happening thing is all about open source hardware. Open source operating systems are so 2000. Intel has recently released a number of x86 based boards. With a simple operating system like DOS you could do all sorts of hardware things directly, wit

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2015-01-01 Thread imre . leber
Not that I all of a sudden want to jump the bandwagon, but is he planning on hiring current/past FreeDOS developers at least? - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: "Jim Hall" Aan: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Verzonden: Woensdag 31 december 2014 17:12:57 Onderwerp: [Freedos-devel]

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2015-01-01 Thread Louis Santillan
You can also buy a copy at MacMall for $2 [0]. [0] http://www.macmall.com/p/HP-Operating-Systems/product~dpno~13045035~pdp.igfhgha On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Michael Brutman wrote: > Somebody should talk to HP and see what FreeDOS 2.0 includes. They are > already shipping machines that s

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2014-12-31 Thread Michael Brutman
Somebody should talk to HP and see what FreeDOS 2.0 includes. They are already shipping machines that support it: http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c04027658&DocLang=en&docLocale=en_US&jumpid=reg_r1002_usen_c-001_title_r0001 On a more serious note, somebody should tr

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2014-12-31 Thread Ralf Quint
On 12/31/2014 4:22 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > It's not my kickstarter project, but I'll watch and see what happens. > I agree that FreeDOS-32 is a tough prospect. As you can guess from my > other post, I'm very concerned that they can maintain any application > compatibility while adding modern har

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2014-12-31 Thread Jim Hall
> > > FreeDOS-32 was born dead IMHO. You simply can't not do what they had in > mind and still be "100% application compatible". That's why they had to > start over and over again, without really getting anywhere. > And you won't find anyone writing any new software for it that fills all > the need

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2014-12-31 Thread Ralf Quint
On 12/31/2014 1:48 PM, Jim Hall wrote: FreeDOS-32 has been around a long time (since 2000) but they haven't released anything to date. I was in occasional email contact with one or two of the developers at the time, and I know they suffered poor project stability. They completely started over

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2014-12-31 Thread Ralf Quint
On 12/31/2014 10:40 AM, Michael Brutman wrote: I am a little skeptical about the prospects for success on this project. The FreeDOS roadmap ( http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/FreeDOS_Road_Map ) is out of date and short on details. I would like to see a broad discussion on the roadmap, g

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2014-12-31 Thread Jim Hall
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > I have nothing against the project at all (it would be awesome to have a > DOS with 32 bit speed) but I have to say I agree with Mike - the two > projects should keep separate names. FreeDOS should remain an enhanced > clone of MS-DOS sin

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2014-12-31 Thread Mercury Thirteen
I have nothing against the project at all (it would be awesome to have a DOS with 32 bit speed) but I have to say I agree with Mike - the two projects should keep separate names. FreeDOS should remain an enhanced clone of MS-DOS since anything which takes it into the 32 bit realm would, in my mind,

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kickstarter project for FreeDOS 2.0

2014-12-31 Thread Michael Brutman
I am a little skeptical about the prospects for success on this project. The FreeDOS roadmap ( http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/FreeDOS_Road_Map ) is out of date and short on details. I would like to see a broad discussion on the roadmap, get consensus and have it updated. Anything that use