Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Liam, > "All" it needs is a memory manager that can start as a 32-bit process, > set up a few interrupts -- INT 11 for the hard disk, for instance -- INT 11? Hard disk is Int 13h. Cheers, Robert -- BTTR Software https://www.bttr-software.de/ DOS ain't dead

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread Bernd Boeckmann via Freedos-devel
> Am 22.01.2023 um 03:46 schrieb Michael Brutman : > > I don't think you are going to get too far with an application ... I hate to > be so blunt here, but it takes more than just being open source. It has to > be a project with significant impact, and I think that FreeDOS is way too >

Re: [Freedos-devel]  Re: Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread Wilhelm Spiegl
Hi,the proposal was from me. Maybe some of you know that I work on the text for a new help version.To do so, I use different sources, depending on what I can get. Sometimes documentation is very good, sometimes there is none, sometimes even command/? gives no information and I have to guess, read

Re: [Freedos-devel] Native SAS (SCSI) and SATA drivers?

2023-01-22 Thread Liam Proven
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 at 18:42, Samuel V. via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Does FreeDOS have programming documentation or native drivers > for SAS (Serial Attached SCSI) and SATA? No, not AFAIK. DOS never did, for trad SCSI. If it didn't have BIOS support, DOS couldn't see it. It was the adaptor's

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't forget: FreeDOS virtual get-together (Sunday)

2023-01-22 Thread Ralf Quint
On 1/20/2023 4:45 PM, Jim Hall wrote: DON'T FORGET: The FreeDOS virtual get-together is Sunday at 11am US/Central. I'll share the link here shortly before the meeting starts. The meeting is on BlueJeans, which is what I use for my consulting (training). While you can use your web browser to

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread Michael Brutman
Chris DiBona, the Senior Director of Open Source at Google was caught in the massive wave of lay-offs that Google executed this past Friday. His group is responsible for the Summer of Code. The departure of specific people might not have an impact, but I would still try to be realistic about

Re: [Freedos-devel]  Re:  Re: Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread Wilhelm Spiegl
fdisk, chkdsk, dosfsck, defrag and scandisk (not in distribution, empty gui).I have no problems to send you screenshots.fdisk, : https://gitlab.com/FreeDOS/base/fdisk/-/issueswilli--Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit mail.com Mail gesendet.Am 22.01.23, 17:56 schrieb

Re: [Freedos-devel]  Re: Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread tom ehlert
Hi, > the proposal was from me. Maybe some of you know that I work on the text for > a new help version. > To do so, I use different sources, depending on what I can get. > Sometimes documentation is very good, sometimes there is none, > sometimes even command/? gives no information and I have

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't forget: FreeDOS virtual get-together (Sunday)

2023-01-22 Thread Ralf Quint
On 1/22/2023 8:56 AM, Jim Hall wrote: My internet router needs to be rebooted. At least, I hope that will get me back online. I'll share the URL when I'm back online and can login to Bluejeans. I'm sending from my phone right now. OK,thanks... BlueJeans was already acting weird for me when

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't forget: FreeDOS virtual get-together (Sunday)

2023-01-22 Thread Jim Hall
After several reboots, my router is back online. Hopefully it will stay that way. Here's the meeting URL: https://bluejeans.com/202946130/6751 On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 10:59 AM Ralf Quint wrote: > > On 1/22/2023 8:56 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > > My internet router needs to be rebooted. At least, I

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't forget: FreeDOS virtual get-together (Sunday)

2023-01-22 Thread Jim Hall
My internet router needs to be rebooted. At least, I hope that will get me back online. I'll share the URL when I'm back online and can login to Bluejeans. I'm sending from my phone right now. On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 10:49 AM Ralf Quint wrote: > On 1/20/2023 4:45 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > DON'T

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Jim, > So let's discuss: > > What core programs or components should we put into the application - > if we apply and can get accepted? A mouse-driven GUI... SCNR :-D Cheers, Robert -- BTTR Software https://www.bttr-software.de/ DOS ain't dead https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread Ralf Quint
On 1/22/2023 10:11 AM, Robert Riebisch wrote: Hi Jim, So let's discuss: What core programs or components should we put into the application - if we apply and can get accepted? A mouse-driven GUI... SCNR :-D No, PLEASE, NO!  ___ Freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Ralf, >>> So let's discuss: >>> >>> What core programs or components should we put into the application - >>> if we apply and can get accepted? >> A mouse-driven GUI... >> >> SCNR :-D >> > No, PLEASE, NO!  Was just kidding... Cheers, Robert -- BTTR Software https://www.bttr-software.de/

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread Ralf Quint
On 1/22/2023 10:28 AM, Robert Riebisch wrote: Hi Ralf, So let's discuss: What core programs or components should we put into the application - if we apply and can get accepted? A mouse-driven GUI... SCNR :-D No, PLEASE, NO!  Was just kidding... You DID notice the smiley at the end,

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't forget: FreeDOS virtual get-together (Sunday)

2023-01-22 Thread Jim Hall
Thanks to everyone who joined the FreeDOS virtual get-together! It was a small group (7 or 8 people) but this was more of a social meeting so the small size was good for conversation. We'll plan to do it again next month and focus on technical topics. Watch for the date!

Re: [Freedos-devel]  Re:  Re: Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread tom ehlert
Hallo Herr Wilhelm Spiegl, > fdisk, chkdsk, dosfsck, defrag and scandisk (not in distribution, empty gui). > I have no problems to send you screenshots. > fdisk, : https://gitlab.com/FreeDOS/base/fdisk/-/issues fdisk has problems, yes. none of these is related to fat32, but all to big disks.

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Jerome Shidel wrote: Assuming Google does not scrap GSoC amidst the layoffs, I have a thought. Perhaps it could be used to solve one of the most frequent problems I hear. Running FreeDOS on modern UEFI hardware. As we are all well aware, this cannot be directly

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread Liam Proven
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 at 22:11, Jerome Shidel wrote: > > Assuming Google does not scrap GSoC amidst the layoffs, I have a thought. > > Perhaps it could be used to solve one of the most frequent problems I hear. > Running FreeDOS on modern UEFI hardware. > > As we are all well aware, this cannot be

Re: [Freedos-devel] Don't forget: FreeDOS virtual get-together (Sunday)

2023-01-22 Thread Jim Hall
Let's plan for the next virtual get-together on Sunday Feb 19 at 11am US/Central. The focus for this one will be "technical." ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread Jim Hall
> > What core programs or components should we put into the application - > > if we apply and can get accepted? On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 12:11 PM Robert Riebisch wrote: > A mouse-driven GUI... > > SCNR :-D Funny! :-) Mouse-driven GUI is always at the top of the list for new DOS developers,

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread Emir SARI via Freedos-devel
Hello, It is a good idea to apply to GSoC; but I reckon there won’t be many students to select it. It sounds like giving a toddler a broom to clean an attic, while the rest of the family is chilling downstairs. - There is no single code base, everything is scattered. Scary. - There is no

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread Jerome Shidel
Assuming Google does not scrap GSoC amidst the layoffs, I have a thought. Perhaps it could be used to solve one of the most frequent problems I hear. Running FreeDOS on modern UEFI hardware. As we are all well aware, this cannot be directly accomplished and would require an abstraction layer