Re: [Freedos-devel] We're criminals (or at least GPL violators)

2004-03-18 Thread Jim Hall
Correct - if both modules (the apack stub and the original program) are part of the same exe, they are no longer aggregates. They have become a single executable. That is what Dave Turner (FSF) was trying to communicate. -jh In the FSF terminology, aPack is semi-free, not proprietary.

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, tom ehlert wrote: Neither are most compilers in use for FreeDOS (with the exception of watcom). LG ...and the Borland Museum compilers. AFAIR, the Borland museum compilers have a license similar to 'free for personal use. if you want to distribute compiled

Re: [Freedos-devel] We're criminals (or at least GPL violators)

2004-03-18 Thread Steffen Kaiser
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Jim Hall wrote: Correct - if both modules (the apack stub and the original program) are part of the same exe, they are no longer aggregates. They have become a single executable. That is what Dave Turner (FSF) was trying to communicate. OK, I'm trying to hook into this

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 18--2004 08:14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Don't know if Bart has a TC/BC license; else all old kernels (compiled with TC), are illegal, too. MD Shhh! The Borland Compliance Engineer may hear you. I wonder how one goes MD about getting a compliance

[Freedos-devel] Re: We're criminals (or at least GPL violators)

2004-03-18 Thread Eric Auer
Hi, criminal news... I share the point of view that I can compile things with museum Turbo C and even spread them. But I cannot spread Turbo C itself easily: I am supposed to send people to the Borland museum to fetch their own copy if they want one. If you disagree about that, I can publish

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, tom ehlert wrote: JH What about Pat Villani, who wrote prf.c and portab.h? this prf.c was written by the author of mkeyb, NOT pat villani. yes, prf.c was completely recoded in the early days I started maintaining the kernel. It's had some more updates from me in the kernel

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread Jim Hall
tom ehlert wrote: Hello Jim, JH I assume you mean yourself? Or do you mean Anton Zinoviev, since he JH wrote several files from scratch? several ? and I will immediately remove the BG keyboard from MKEYB, should he ask me. Yes, looks like BG. Looking at the mkeyb 0.40 zip file: /* keydefbg.h

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread tom ehlert
Bart, BO Who can sue Tom for changing the license? The copyright holders. There aren't any. contributing to a project doesn't mean you get a copyright. BO Will they BO sue Tom? They'll have a tough time in court (because the contributions BO are minor and close to fair use) only 'close' to fair

Re: [Freedos-devel] mKEYB 0.40

2004-03-18 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:12:41 +0100, tom ehlert wrote: Or do you mean Anton Zinoviev, since he wrote several files from scratch? several ? and I will immediately remove the BG keyboard from MKEYB, should he ask me. As an active Linux developer he probably doesn't care, and even if it does this,

Re: [Freedos-devel] Executable compresison, part II

2004-03-18 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:42:52 +0100, tom ehlert wrote: and that's the point where it hurts: that I can't exepack KERNEL.SYS and FREECOM.COM with aPack to save some Kbyte You may be able to do this Real Soon Now (in the FSF's sense, which means some months ;-) Those tiny 200 bytes provoked the

Re: [Freedos-devel] Executable compresison, part II

2004-03-18 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 18--2004 17:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luchezar Georgiev) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: LG was a sarcasm! Why? Because we care more about the letter and not the LG spirit of the GPL. LG What is the goal of the GPL? Providing freedom and ensuring that nobody LG can deprive anybody from it. Do we

Re: [Freedos-devel] Executable compresison, part II

2004-03-18 Thread Steve Nickolas - Using Windoze
tom ehlert wrote: unlikely. changing the license (from GPL2 to GPL3) requires written consent from all contributors ;) Most GPL'd programs have this statement: This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published

Re: [Freedos-devel] Executable compresison, part II

2004-03-18 Thread Jim Hall
Steve Nickolas - Using Windoze wrote: tom ehlert wrote: unlikely. changing the license (from GPL2 to GPL3) requires written consent from all contributors ;) Most GPL'd programs have this statement: This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the

Re: [Freedos-devel] Another EMM386 release, bugfixes and enhancements

2004-03-18 Thread Johnson Lam
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:22:38 -0600, you wrote: Hi Michael, That's interesting. MPXPLAY lets me play a CD with a NUL output, which is mildly amusing to watch. I can run MPXPLAY fine with NOEMS, or EMS set, with DOS=HIGH,UMB, or DOS=HIGH (without UMB). Maybe the problem is with VCPI and your

Re: [Freedos-devel] (OT) Slashdot poll

2004-03-18 Thread Johnson Lam
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:45:33 -0600, you wrote: Hi Jim, Just thought I'd forward this to the list: looks like Slashdot has listed FreeDOS as an option in their new poll: Favorite hobby OS. http://slashdot.org/index.pl :-) FreeDOS is more than a hobby! ;-) I'm trying to use Terminal

[Freedos-devel] Photoshop Tutorial de A a Z - Curso Completo

2004-03-18 Thread pstut
Title: VISUAL BASIC 5

Re: [Freedos-devel] Executable compresison, part II

2004-03-18 Thread Paul Berger
On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 15:12, Steve Nickolas - Using Windoze wrote: tom ehlert wrote: unlikely. changing the license (from GPL2 to GPL3) requires written consent from all contributors ;) Most GPL'd programs have this statement: This program is free software; you can redistribute it