Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Antony Gordon
Hi. On Jun 3, 2015, at 3:55 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: How about a FreeDOS Developer Studio? I don't want to be pessimistic or discourage anyone, but this sounds difficult. Not being pessimistic,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: How about a FreeDOS Developer Studio? I don't want to be pessimistic or discourage anyone, but this sounds difficult. I think SETEDIT comes with some programmer support and there is some DJGPP IDE (RHIDE?) and maybe

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Antony Gordon
Eric, Finally I’m not irking your nerves :) I wasn’t thinking of even using the Borland Museum tools. What I actually envisioned was much like what Apple does with Xcode, they provide an IDE, LLVM (and GCC) and Swift along with sample code, an SDK and documentation. Fortunately for FreeDOS,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install

2015-06-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:49 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: It stated this exact error: This version of rufus only supports bootable ISOs based on bootmgr,EFI,Grub4DOS,GRUB 1,isolinux or winpe.This ISO does not use either... Then it exits. Well, try UNetBootIn

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install

2015-06-03 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
I used the ISO file.Rufus stated it wasn't bootable. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:49 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Jun 2, 2015 3:36 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: Hello.As of right now,I am trying to install FreeDOS on my 'lil Hp laptop.It does not

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Mercury Thirteen
What does everyone think about adding this to the Dev package in the official 1.2 distro? On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Georg Potthast mail...@georgpotthast.de wrote: I ported a graphical IDE to DOS last year: https://sourceforge.net/projects/fldev/ Please click on the screenshots to

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Mercury Thirteen
So far as the RBIL, an offline version of this http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/doc/rbinter/ may suffice. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Louis Santillan lpsan...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, [SNIP] On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:12 PM,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install

2015-06-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:41 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: I used the ISO file.Rufus stated it wasn't bootable. RUFUS whined that the USB wasn't bootable? Or you tried, and it just didn't boot? There's some fiddly setting about whether to use MBR or SysLinux or

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Georg Potthast
I ported a graphical IDE to DOS last year: https://sourceforge.net/projects/fldev/ Please click on the screenshots to enlarge them. It was developed for djgpp. Maybe you can use that and extend it for your purposes. Georg

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install

2015-06-03 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
It stated this exact error: This version of rufus only supports bootable ISOs based on bootmgr,EFI,Grub4DOS,GRUB 1,isolinux or winpe.This ISO does not use either... Then it exits. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:41 PM, JAYDEN

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Louis Santillan
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, [SNIP] On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: I think SETEDIT comes with some programmer support and there is some DJGPP IDE (RHIDE?) and maybe others. Neither has been maintained (for

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Louis Santillan
Which is? Are you speaking of User Experience, User Friendliness or something else? On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Chelson Aitcheson chelson.aitche...@gmail.com wrote: Out of box experience On 04/06/2015 10:07 am, Louis Santillan lpsan...@gmail.com wrote: What is oobe? On Wed, Jun 3,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Wed, 3 Jun 2015, Antony Gordon wrote: Why is that important? Because that means it doesn't really qualify for inclusion with FreeDOS, as I understand it. -uso. -- ___

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Jun 3, 2015 4:13 PM, Antony Gordon cuzint...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: I think SETEDIT comes with some programmer support and there is some DJGPP IDE (RHIDE?) and maybe others. Is there an IDE that’s included with

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install

2015-06-03 Thread Louis Santillan
I don't believe FD1.1 supports what you're looking for. You need your BIOS to support special USB HDD as DOS drive emulation or maybe you can read up on this FreeDOS USB technote [0]. Some vintage BIOSes only had EDD 1.1 [1]. If you were lucky you had EDD 3.0 [2]. Apparently, there was even a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Antony Gordon
Why is that important? On Wed, Jun 3, 2015, 6:14 PM Steve Nickolas usots...@buric.co wrote: Keep in mind that OpenWatcom doesn't meet Debian or GNU's criteria to be open source. -uso. --

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Chelson Aitcheson
Oobe should be be a part of the fd distro to ever be considered serious. Whether it be for dev or new users. And stop comparing it to Linux because Linux developers made the forward choices to make it what it is today and freedos people are too scared of the ideas of adding features to the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Louis Santillan
Rhide and setedit's output capture is what is being asked for. On Wednesday, June 3, 2015, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Jun 3, 2015 4:13 PM, Antony Gordon cuzint...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cuzint...@gmail.com'); wrote: Is there an IDE that’s included with

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install

2015-06-03 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
Didn't work.If I boot from my installation CD on my desktop,would I be able to install everything to a plugged in external harddrive instead of my internal harddrive? On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:49 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Louis Santillan
What is oobe? On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Chelson Aitcheson chelson.aitche...@gmail.com wrote: Oobe should be be a part of the fd distro to ever be considered serious. Whether it be for dev or new users. And stop comparing it to Linux because Linux developers made the forward choices to

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install

2015-06-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Jun 3, 2015 4:21 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: Didn't work. UNetBootIn? With either DOS or Linux?? If I boot from my installation CD on my desktop,would I be able to install everything to a plugged in external harddrive instead of my internal harddrive?

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Steve Nickolas
Keep in mind that OpenWatcom doesn't meet Debian or GNU's criteria to be open source. -uso. -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Ralf Quint
On 6/3/2015 3:19 PM, Steve Nickolas wrote: Keep in mind that OpenWatcom doesn't meet Debian or GNU's criteria to be open source. We are talking here about the FreeDOS project, dealing with source/compilers from a time well before either of those were in any form relevant. I mentioned this

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Antony Gordon
It could either be on the ISO or a package that's installed. The idea that I had was to provide someone who wanted to develop for FreeDOS a collection of pre configured tools, documentation and examples to get started. Some of us know FreeDOS better than others as well as the internals of MS-DOS.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Chelson Aitcheson
Out of box experience On 04/06/2015 10:07 am, Louis Santillan lpsan...@gmail.com wrote: What is oobe? On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Chelson Aitcheson chelson.aitche...@gmail.com wrote: Oobe should be be a part of the fd distro to ever be considered serious. Whether it be for dev or

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Antony Gordon
Hi, Since I’ve become the “bain of everyone’s existence” regarding the 32-bit extension to FreeDOS, I am going to attempt to offer an olive branch so I can stay on the list. How about a FreeDOS Developer Studio? It would combine all of the recommended build tools to build the operating from

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-03 Thread Mercury Thirteen
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Ralf Quint freedos...@gmail.com wrote: Input? Well, do you really think that people download 281MB ZIP file, one that also alerts most anti-virus software due to some of it's contents, without knowing what this is about? How's that for input? Ralf That

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

2015-06-03 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! How about a FreeDOS Developer Studio? I think SETEDIT comes with some programmer support and there is some DJGPP IDE (RHIDE?) and maybe others. While I myself do not use free open source IDE for DOS, but do remember that the Turbo C / Turbo Pascal IDE was not bad, I suggest that there

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-03 Thread Ralf Quint
On 6/2/2015 7:39 PM, Louis Santillan wrote: I'm not of this effort, but, Ralf, what are you using to scan for viruses? Got the alert from Avast here on my Windows 8.1 laptop, got the same warning for AVG and Norton on two customer PCs. Ended up downloading it with AV disabled in a sandbox.