[This page at OSDev](https://wiki.osdev.org/VGA_Hardware) has lots of details
on the VGA system. I believe you can poll the registers to determine the
blanking period; I don't recall VGA supporting interrupts for this. But I could
be wrong.
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AFAIK, VT-X is basically hardware-level support for virtualization and it does
help noticeably. Without it, the VM hypervisor must do all that work in
software. It kinda works like hardware acceleration for graphics in a video
card.
There's my two cents lol
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On July 8, 2018 1:42 PM, Ercan Ersoy wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Can PDOS run programs that are run with CWSDPMI (for exmaple DJGPP)?
>
> Can NightDOS run programs that are run with CWSDPMI (for exmaple DJGPP)?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ercan
Hi Ercan,
The Night kernel will eventually have its own
I agree... not sure why the FreeDOS kernel folks felt that was necessary. Maybe
a size limitation of the bootloader?
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On Jul 10, 2018, 12:47 AM, Ralf Quint wrote:
> On 7/9/2018 7:43 PM, Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-devel wr
So, I've been looking into de-UPXing the kernel image and keep getting told by
the UPX binary that the image "wasn't compressed by UPX". Is there anything
special I have to do to convince it otherwise? Was the kernel in fact not
compressed by UPX? I'm using the latest UPX on Linux Mint 19, if
(Anyway, I think compressing programs is useful, if FreeDOS is likely to
> be used in resource-constrained situations. Floppy disks were not only
> slow --- they also had quite limited capacity. (-: )
>
> Thank you!
>
> --
> https://github.com/tkchia/
>
> On 07/10/2018 03:
Interesting you should mention this; I and a few others have been working on a
32-bit Protected Mode DOS-style kernel (see the Night group forum
[here](https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/night-dos-kernel) for more
info) for a while now. While I never got too deep into DPMI (and
I, for one, would personally love to see FreeQB. Even if it only converted
BASIC to assembly and relied on NASM for compiling, it would be a welcome
addition to the FreeDOS family. The language could even be extended with
several features found in other BASICs, such as PowerBASIC. I began a
Enabling VSync should take care of tearing; I think the VESA spec has a way to
enable that feature internally without you writing code for it.
Also, proper double buffering will go a long way towards eliminating tear and
flicker.
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errupts.
>
> I assume the NightDOS kernel is doing well, then?
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/night-dos-kernel/PaPrNIvVWyo
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 2:08 PM Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-devel
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Ultimately, I'm looking
Hello all,
Ultimately, I'm looking for an application which can probe the DOS function
calls on a given system and report how "compatible" the current system is,
perhaps presenting a list of what DOS functions have successfully returned
legitimate output. E.g. "Your DOS implementation supports
Thanks! I've never seen this program, but methinks it shall be very useful.
On Saturday, June 8, 2019 10:31 AM, TK Chia u1049321...@caramail.com wrote:
> Hello Rugxulo, hello Mercury 13,
>
>> Of course, you could just always rather test the "big dogs" of the DOS
>> world: Turbo C, Lotus 1-2-3,
And we thank YOU! It's pretty cool to see what passion for a platform can do,
despite the majority of the modern computing world considering it dead. Great
work, and may it continue growing!
Btw... Nice guest appearance on the [Lunduke
Show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ib9HLHeNfI)!
On
Yes, the BIOS performs the necessary translations.
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On Saturday, August 10, 2019 10:10 PM, Thomas Mueller mueller6...@twc.com wrote:
> From Dale E. Sterner:
>
>> I've had problem getting cutemouse to
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:33 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:
> ...
>
>> because nobody uses any FreeCOM binary younger then 2006
>> for well known reasons.
>
> Please shed some light on the well known reasons.
+1
I never heard of any reasons. Granted I don't use FreeDOS on the daily,
On Friday, May 15, 2020 1:28 PM, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote:
> ...
> My comments/questions on a few ways we communicate:
> ...
My comments on your comments: :D
> Email lists
> https://www.freedos.org/forums/
> We obviously use the freedos-devel and freedos-user email lists.
> But the
It certainly could be done using VESA.
I believe the "official" VESA screen modes top out at 1280 x 1024, but some VBE
implementations go to 1600 x 1200 and beyond. Your game should be coded to
search the VESA modes list at startup to see what resolutions are available on
the system on which
ght would be Allegro. But that's a game library
> (if that makes any difference) and I'm not sure if the current version works
> with DOS or not.
>
> On 8/14/2020 8:14 PM, Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-devel wrote:
>
>> It certainly could be done using VESA.
>>
>>
ficial FreeDOS VGA card? This will allow developers, like us,
> to create much more advanced graphics software running in DOS.
>
> It is much more easier to do these days. Any VGA card can do 1920x1080x32 or
> even more.
>
> What do you think? Good idea?
>
> De: [Mercury
On Saturday, August 15, 2020 12:55 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:
> Hi!
Hey there!
> ...
>
>> Instead of an official FreeDOS graphics card, perhaps a standard FreeDOS
>> graphics API and/or Window Manager. This would build upon the VBE by giving
>> developers a handful of routines
Hi there!
Stas brought this project to our attention on the Night forum, but it seems the
goals are too different to directly share code. On the other hand, some bits
may prove useful once we get far enough into development.
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First, thanks to all who replied! Good stuff. :)
Also:
On Monday, December 28, 2020 5:02 PM, Danilo Pecher
danilo.pec...@data-experts.biz wrote:
> Well, one could also question the point of shared libraries in a system that
> doesn't support multitasking.
> ...
It's not so much a matter of
On Friday, December 25, 2020 8:46 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:
> Hi :-)
>
>> Just a bit of FYI despite the project being nowhere near ready to go
>> as of yet: there is a small group of us working on moving DOS into
>> the 32-bit realm in the form of the NightKernel. As part ofthat
Thanks! We would appreciate the help. :)
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On Friday, November 20, 2020 9:01 AM, tom ehlert wrote:
> > But what has become a
> > slow but seemingly steady stream is that there are new people
> > showing up once in a while, with
Nice! Computer Shopper magazine (although one wonders how such a thick
periodical tome could be called a "magazine" lol) used to have software called
TECHHelp! back in the day containing similar information; it appears the site
you mention is an online recreation of that software. Thanks for
Just a bit of FYI despite the project being nowhere near ready to go as of yet:
there is a small group of us working on moving DOS into the 32-bit realm in the
form of the [Night Kernel](https://groups.google.com/g/night-dos-kernel). As
part of that journey, we eventually want a compatibility
On Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:48 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote:
> Hi Mercury & everybody,
>
>> I noticed a while back that Japheth updated his HiMemX driver, and I've
>> finally gotten around to packaging it up for use in FreeDOS. Also, he's made
>> a new driver which can do what that
I noticed a while back that Japheth updated his HiMemX driver, and I've finally
gotten around to packaging it up for use in FreeDOS.
Also, he's made a new driver which can do what that HiMemX does, and more...
way more. HiMemSX can access memory above the 4 GiB mark! I've packaged it up
also,
Hey all,
I packaged up some of Japheth's newer releases of software we already have in
the list:
Debug 1.25 - > 1.27
JWasm 2.12 -> 2.14
They can be found at [the usual
place](http://mercurycoding.com/downloads.html#DOS).
Enjoy!
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"640K of memory should be enough for anybody."
lol :)
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On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 4:47 PM, Andreas Berger
andr...@thebergerclan.org wrote:
> On 13/01/2021 18:18, Eric Auer wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>>> I
On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 11:44 AM, Steve Nickolas usots...@buric.co wrote:
> ...
> I've had ideas for what I'd do if I were writing my own OS or my own DOS
> clone... but they'd probably be too weird for this list.
> ...
But I, for one, would love to hear those
Hey, all! Just a question I've never seen addressed here - or anywhere else,
for that matter.
Was there ever any "official" format for a shared runtime library under MS-DOS?
Windows has .DLL files, Linux has .KO files, and MS-DOS had... what, exactly?
In all my years DOSsing I've never heard
Hey, all! (Namely Jerome :] )
There's a new UIDE package which contains some small modifications to the
accompanying documentation as suggested by Jack. There are no binary changes.
It can be found in the [DOS Library at Mercury
Coding](http://mercurycoding.com/downloads.html#DOS).
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This wouldn't be the first thing VirtualBox doesn't implement fully/correctly.
Another notable omission is the "direct" mode of creating sound by writing
values straight to a SoundBlaster-compatible card; VirtualBox only supports DMA
transfer for sound.
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On Wednesday, June 16th, 2021 at 8:18 PM, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote:
> ...
>
>> [..]
>>
>> Sorry but that thread about which games may or may
>>
>> not work is frustrating me given that there always
>>
>> seems to be SOME context in which some games fail.
>
> Ending up with weird graphics
On Monday, May 10, 2021 1:00 PM, Robert Riebisch r...@bttr-software.de wrote:
> Hi Mercury,
Hello there!
> > I'd say we really /do/ need a set standard for versioning. The
> > frustration Eric mentioned in his email has hit me once or twice as well
> > when combing through archives to compare
+1
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On Saturday, May 1, 2021 2:56 PM, Eric Auer wrote:
> Hi Jim and Robert,
>
> indeed I have slowly moved to more "sorted directory listing
> friendly" date formats, but it would not be a problem for me
> if you decided to
I'd say we really do need a set standard for versioning. The frustration Eric
mentioned in his email has hit me once or twice as well when combing through
archives to compare versions.
The format I propose is:
- The date in ISO 8601 format
- Two digits for the major version
- Two digits for the
A quick side-note; I sent Ralf a quick email a while back simply asking if he
was still accepting updates to the RBIL and he kindly affirmed he was, although
he did indicate slight surprise that anyone was working on new DOS applications
these days and would be interested in contributing
On Monday, May 3, 2021 3:45 PM, Robert Riebisch r...@bttr-software.de wrote:
> ...
> Most is explained here:
> http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Releases/1.3/Packages
> ...
Speaking of "here", at that link I happened to see this question regarding
DJGPP:
"license ok **Question: did DJGPP
On Monday, May 31, 2021 6:36 AM, Steve Nickolas usots...@buric.co wrote:
> On Mon, 31 May 2021, Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-devel wrote:
>
>> +1
>> Personally, I always thought it would be best to have this "phantom
>> drive" feature disabled by de
+1
Personally, I always thought it would be best to have this "phantom drive"
feature disabled by default and allow the user to enable it if they need. But
that's just me. :)
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Thanks for this! Always nice to see new/updated software for FreeDOS. :)
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wrote:
> made a package for GNU CHESS 5.05 called
I would add:
else ERROR 'No partitions detected'
to the bottom of that as well. :)
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On Thursday, June 24th, 2021 at 2:57 AM, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel
freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
> I was thinking what a modern MBR should do and come to the
Hey all!
I've packaged up the most recent version of UHDD, which you can find at
MercuryCoding.com/downloads.html#DOS. The new version supports Read-Ahead and
DMA/Caching Overlap for all cache sizes from 5 to 4093 MiB, which should help
make all the work done by Jerome's FreeDOS installer
...@member.fsf.org
wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 07, 2021 at 05:52:58PM +0000, Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-devel
> wrote:
>
>> Very cool! Almost as cool as that 68000 SBC you made awhile back. :)
>
> Thanks!
> That was a fun project too, and I cer
Very cool! Almost as cool as that 68000 SBC you made awhile back. :)
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On Sunday, February 7, 2021 11:50 AM, John Tsiombikas nucl...@member.fsf.org
wrote:
> It was indicated by jhall in his fosdem talk
During some recent development work, I noticed that the FreeDOS MEM command
reports the TSR I'm writing is using one less paragraph than its MS-DOS
counterpart - it seems it does not account for space occupied by the MCB at the
start of the TSR's heap, while the MS-DOS MEM command does.
I'm
Yep, language names like German, French, Spanish, et. al are all considered
"proper nouns" and as such should be capitalized. :-)
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This is awesome! :D
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On Saturday, July 24th, 2021 at 2:01 AM, wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I thought some of you might enjoy this (others may really dislike it).
>
> Link is to a (posted to YouTube) about 2 minute video of (version
On Sunday, January 9th, 2022 at 12:51 PM, Tyson Oswald oswa...@charter.net
wrote:
> There is supposedly a way to mount the virtual disk on macOS when it is
> unmounted from the VM but I haven’t been able to get it to work. VB comes
> with MacFuse for that purpose but have never been able to
This feature was nonstandard across various BIOS implementations, so it is
highly likely that if the BIOS does not support it via its built-in interface
(the "Press to enter SETUP" prompt) it is probably entirely unavailable.
Just to be sure, I checked the [CMOS Memory Map
Well, I may as well throw my two cents in here. :)
On computers using a standard ATX power supply, pin #9 on the connector
provides power to the motherboard at all times as long as the PSU itself has AC
wall power power coming in.
Modern motherboards use this "Standby" power to run small
Personally, I've never used the VMDK format. I always use a preallocated VDI.
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On Monday, January 10th, 2022 at 10:57 AM, Tyson Oswald
wrote:
> Alright I have tried to Crete a VMDK virtual hard disk
On Saturday, January 8th, 2022 at 7:17 PM, Jerome Shidel jer...@shidel.net
wrote:
> ...
>
> Personally, I think it should be fixed. No one should be using that.
>
> ...
Agreed 100%. :)___
Freedos-devel mailing list
Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Thanks, Jim! :)
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On Thursday, March 3rd, 2022 at 12:14 AM, Jim Hall wrote:
> If you'd like to download one of the SourceForge badges to add to your
>
> own site, you can find them here:
>
>
+1
100%
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On Saturday, April 2nd, 2022 at 3:41 AM, Maarten Vermeulen
wrote:
> I never really say anything here, but I feel like I should here.
>
> I do agree with Mike here. When I install a DOS, I
"Officially" Night is in fact still an ongoing project. The problem is that I
haven't had much time to devote to it for a while now, and I know Maarten and
Antony have a lot going on as well. After completing a handful of other
projects that have popped up, I will definitely be going back to
On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 3:34 PM, Jim Hall wrote:
> ...
> I run Linux, and use Fedora on my PC. When I download a new version of
> [Fedora Workstation](https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/), it
> comes as a DVD ISO image. But my PC doesn't have a DVD drive (my previous
>
...as did I. Mine was as follows.
From: webmas...@propstei-marien.de
Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Logger v0.3-BETA
Content:
Hi There,
Please look into the the document in the web-link down the page.
LINK BUTTON
Enjoy a good afternoon!
On Saturday, August 26th, 2023 at 12:37 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
> ...
>
> But I'm concerned about walking into another situation down the road where we
> need to relocate the wiki once again. When we used the shared wiki at SF,
> that was a
This looks way better! What an improvement over the current site! :)
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On Friday, April 22nd, 2022 at 7:05 PM, Jim Hall wrote:
> I mentioned in February that I've been working on a new website
> redesign as a "back-burner"
A "Developers" link would be a nice place to showcase libraries or other topics
of use to devs, showing how FreeDOS may be a perfect fit for deploying their
next project/BIOS update/whatever.
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On Monday, April 25th, 2022 at
It's been awhile since I've needed to use Git at the command line so I can't
tell you the exact syntax to use but, once you have Git installed, you can run
the command from within your project's root directory and it will upload
everything on its own, maintaining the same folder and file
In addition to "unstable", another practice commonly used by other software
projects for interim builds like those you're discussing here is to title them
based on their frequency, e.g. "nightly" or "weekly", etc. Perhaps this would
be the way to go?
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I had some spare time, so I took some liberties with Paul's text. Hopefully I
didn't slice-n-dice it too badly from your original intent! :)
FreeDOS is a free re-implementation of Microsoft's MS-DOS, the de-facto
I did some editing and sent you a merge request.
[/headsup]
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On Monday, August 22nd, 2022 at 7:16 PM, Jim Hall wrote:
> I wanted to share an update on the ebook. Editing is going a little
> slower than expected, because
Since what you need to know is which Ethernet card is being virtualized,
perhaps it would be sufficient to simply scan the PCI bus to see what class 2
devices reside there? My ListPCI tool can do just that (as well as some other
stuff) and I believe Eric Auer's PCISleep may do something
Cool! Reminds me of Professor Kelly's EASy68K simulator for 68K CPUs.
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On Tuesday, August 9th, 2022 at 7:49 PM, Jim Hall wrote:
> Hi everyone
>
> Some of you know that I also teach a "100" level university course
> about
Watcom's Debugger is amazing for that. You can single-step your code, set
breakpoints, monitor variable names, everything. It'll even work (albeit a
little less robustly) on applications not made in Watcom C.
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Actually, someone has already done some work on that. :)
Check this out:
https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/894522/The-Low-Level-M3ss-DOS-Multicore-Mode-Interface
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On Sunday, January 15th, 2023 at 9:17 AM, Knedlik
wrote:
It would be nice if FreeDOS had something like *nix's DMESG.
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On Sunday, March 19th, 2023 at 11:29 AM, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel
wrote:
> So many messages on boot I cannot scroll back.
> If only
I realize this may be more trouble than it's worth, but it's technically
possible to write up a small "shim" program which simply hooks the character
printing interrupts and copies any characters passed to a small memory buffer*
before forwarding them to the regular printing interrupt. This
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wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> On Mar 20, 2023, at 6:35 PM, Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-devel
>> wrote:
>>
>> I realize this may be more trouble than it's worth, but it's technically
>> possible to write up a small "shim" program which simply hooks the ch
If it was in fact removed from the "official" MS-DOS, and one wanted to
(re)implement it anyway, perhaps browsing the code of the open-source
recreation of OS/2 would help? It has a FAT32 driver which is compatible with
the OS/2 IFS and, as I recall, OS/2 was more of a direct successor to
On Tuesday, June 13th, 2023 at 4:30 PM, Jose Senna jasse...@mail.com wrote:
> ...
>
> Jim Hall said:
>
>> We should still fix the FreeDOS behavior to match
>
>> the MS-DOS behavior.
>
> Shall this be an absolute rule, even when the
> behavior is a bug ?
Unfortunately, in many cases, it has to be
Looks great!
Except I was referring to [this
logo](https://freedos.org/images/logos/freedos-logo2-lg.png), not the
Seinfeld-esque one. :)
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On Sunday, July 2nd, 2023 at 4:15 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
+1
And lol, btw. :)
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On Sunday, July 2nd, 2023 at 3:07 PM, Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel
wrote:
> On 6/29/2023 4:24 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote:
>
> > I've been experimenting with an updated website, and I'm
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On Friday, June 9th, 2023 at 1:48 PM, jer...@shidel.net
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Logger version 1.00 was released several weeks ago. That should have been
> sufficient time those who are interested in it to
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On Thursday, June 29th, 2023 at 7:24 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
> ...
>
> I've been experimenting with an updated website, and I'm considering
> going back to the original 1990s logo. We can use Blinky elsewhere on
>
Nice work!
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On Friday, May 12th, 2023 at 3:52 PM, jer...@shidel.net
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> With all the changes I made since v0.2-BETA, I decided to do another beta
> release of Logger. Here is an overview of the changes:
Thank you, and a Merry Christmas to you and your family!
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On Sunday, December 24th, 2023 at 11:16 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
wrote:
> I just wanted to wish everyone a Merry Christmas, to all who celebrate!
>
> Also looking forward
Thanks for that! I'm always on the lookout for new retro-adjacent channels, so
I'll definitely be checking out Root42 in the near future.
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On Wednesday, May 8th, 2024 at 12:53 PM, Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel
wrote:
> Probably the best DOS programming
Nice, the new site is working for me. :)
One (minor) thing I would suggest, however, is that the What's New items should
each at the bottom span the entire width of the window in all cases. The do
behave this way on small screens (or in small windows) but on large ones they
show up
Good to know that (Free)DOS has lspci support. Thanks for the info!
And now, for my two cents lol
My ListPCI application (https://mercurycoding.com/downloads.html) does
essentially the same thing, although it shows only the manufacturer and device
type, not the specific device name; e.g.
Exactly. I, too, never heard of it until maybe a month ago - I always used INXI
for that on my machines lol
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On Thursday, March 21st, 2024 at 9:32 PM, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
wrote:
> Hi
>
> > On Mar 19, 2024, at 6:33 PM, Ladislav Lacina via
Personally, I'm a big fan of keeping information in one easy to access place.
If it were me, I would put the articles in their own section on the wiki under
a helpful title, where they could also be linked to from other articles in the
wiki, e.g. an article on how to install FreeDOS could link
Welcome back! :D
My setup is a Linux desktop machine under which I edit code with Sublime Text
and compile with the Linux versions of NASM and/or Watcom C, for whichever the
current project calls.
I test frequently while implementing a new feature or what-have-you, and for
that I use DOSBox.
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