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Re: [Freedos-user] TriDOS

2004-08-29 Thread Jim Hall
Florian Xaver wrote:
Hi!
Has anyone tried it? http://phantom.urbis.net.il/bphantom/tridos.html
Maybe it should be included into the FreeDOS Util set.
What do you think, would it be difficult to enhance it to support DPMI 
programs?

Bye, Flo
I'm going through some old email, and found Florian's note from 6/5.  In 
short, Triple-DOS is a pre-emptive multitasker for DOS on session level 
a-la Windows in Enhanced mode or OS/2.   Looks interesting - but since I 
haven't tried it out yet, I won't add it to the Util list.  I will, 
however, mirror it on ibiblio.

Triple-DOS has nearly no device drivers. Triple-DOS doesn't provide a 
proprietary API for DOS programs - its purpose is to run existent DOS 
binaries that are not aware of multitasking.

This release, version 0.50, is freeware using a BSD-similar license.
DOS may be any type or version but it must be compatible with MS-DOS 
version 3.0 - so FreeDOS may work, but I haven't tried it.

According to the web site, you may start a new DOS session at any time 
by pressing Alt-Enter, change to the next session with Alt-Tab, and 
terminate the currently active session with Alt-End. You may quit 
Triple-DOS any time by pressing Alt-Esc.

In order to compile Triple-DOS you need MASM 6.x.  ZIP file includes an 
RCS directory that contains all previous versions. Use GNU RCS to manage 
the revisions.

Triple-DOS has a DPMI 0.9 server. Simple assembly programs work (both 
16-bit and 32-bit) but support for large applications in multitasking 
environment is tricky. Since the DPMI server was never stable, the DPMI 
entry points were always disabled in release versions.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Kernel LFN support

2004-08-29 Thread Johnson Lam
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 11:35:42 +0300, you wrote:

Hi Lucho,

Why not put up a list of FreeDOS-incompatible software so that problems 
can be solved one-by-one? Can you ask your friend to make a list of his 
software not running under FreeDOS and a brief description of the problem 
with each piece of software? I've always thought that the biggest problem 
of the FreeDOS kernel aren't bugs but incompatibility (which is also a 
kind of bug ;-)

Because he's testing with some very old games which may have
protection. That kind of games is not worth spending time on it, but
if you're hacker, then it's good for you ;-)

I ask him to provide some 'not working' application for me to test,
maybe a bit later.

NTFS it a too complex filesystem for DOS. The FAT32 + LFN combination is 

Just thinking maybe can use FreeDOS to rescue NTFS, if too complex
then drop it.

enough. DOSLFN is a giant patch over the kernel and as its authors seem to 
ignore FreeDOS, its incompatibility will increase - so the only good 
solution to the LFN problem is integrating LFN support into the kernel, 
indeed.

But integrating LFN into kernel will lack flexibility ... How about
modify the kernel to provide API, and load LFN as a device driver?
Then we can change the device driver without altering the kernel
version by version.

Unfortunately not all BIOSes can boot off an USB memory stick. Again, 
why not put up a list of the motherboards proved to boot and proved to be 
unable to boot FreeDOS off a memory stick?

I don't have a USB memory stick, I think it's worth to buy one for
use and test. Also your idea was good, but I need help from others
because I have a few motherboard only, the list is meaningless if only
3 or 4 boards there.


Rgds,
Johnson.



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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Kernel LFN support

2004-08-29 Thread Johnson Lam
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:50:13 +0200 (MEST), you wrote:

Hi Eric,

Hi, before we re-invent the wheel again, we should first try to get
DOSLFN working with FreeDOS again. Jason writes that DOSLFN uses the

Is FreeDOS ready for LFN?

I mean LFN will affect the FAT table, is FreeDOS already spare enough
'space' for the extra space? And other disk maintenance program will
not cause false alarm. (e.g. corrupted FAT table, misallocation of
file)


Rgds,
Johnson.



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