[Freedos-user] Unable to format harddisk partition after reboot
Hi, I am unable to format a harddisk partition after a reboot (the problem occurrs in a Linux dosemu box and on real hardware), here is the version information of the FreeDOS kernel: FreeDOS kernel version 1.1.35w (Build 2035w-UNSTABLE, Sep 27 2004) Kernel compatibility 7.10 - WATCOMC - FAT32 support When trying to format a harddisk partition with format 0.91s I get the following error message: A:\format c: /u /q WARNING: ALL DATA ON NON-REMOVABLE DISK DRIVE C: WILL BE LOST! PLEASE CONFIRM! Proceed with format (YES/NO)? YES Disk size: 50 Mbytes, FAT16. *** Please enter volume label (max. 11 chars): QuickFormatting (only flushing metadata) Warning: Resets bad cluster marks if any. Drive_IO( command=WRITE sector=0 count=1 ) [FAT12/16] [drive C*] Critical error encountered while using DOS disk driver DOS driver error (hex): 01 Description: unknown unit for driver Program terminated. [Code 129] It seems that FreeDOS hasn't initialized some disk parameter block, because if I access the harddisk before trying to format it (i.e. dir c:), the format works: A:\format c: /u /q WARNING: ALL DATA ON NON-REMOVABLE DISK DRIVE C: WILL BE LOST! PLEASE CONFIRM! Proceed with format (YES/NO)? YES Disk size: 50 Mbytes, FAT16. *** Please enter volume label (max. 11 chars): QuickFormatting (only flushing metadata) Warning: Resets bad cluster marks if any. Preparing FAT area... 100 percent completed. QuickFormat complete. 52,706,304 bytes total disk space (disk size) 52,584,448 bytes available on disk (free clusters) 2,048 bytes in each allocation unit. 25,676 allocation units on disk. Volume Serial Number is 3725-12EA Does anyone have an idea? bye, Christof --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to format harddisk partition after reboot
Hi! 13--2004 11:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christof Meerwald) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: CM I am unable to format a harddisk partition after a reboot (the problem CM occurrs in a Linux dosemu box and on real hardware), here is the version CM information of the FreeDOS kernel: CM FreeDOS kernel version 1.1.35w (Build 2035w-UNSTABLE, Sep 27 2004) A:\format c: /u /q CM Critical error encountered while using DOS disk driver CM DOS driver error (hex): 01 CMDescription: unknown unit for driver CM It seems that FreeDOS hasn't initialized some disk parameter block, CM because if I access the harddisk before trying to format it (i.e. dir CM c:), the format works: CM Does anyone have an idea? Yes. In last patches Lucho removes main.c:InitializeAllBPBs(), which does what you explain (initialize BPBs for utilities, which access disk directly). Probably, issue is in this removed function. Unfortunately, at given moment I don't have latest CVS kernel to try to return this function and see what happen. Kenneth, Lucho? May be someone of you? PS: Bart, tom: who was wrote comment for InitializeAllBPBs()? Can you explain, how to reproduce direct access through DE? _Probably_, there should be loaded empty environment and DE runned for browsing physical drive? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] corrputed disk (was: )
Hi! 12--2004 20:04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arne Eckmann) wrote: AE Who is legally responsible for damage created by FreeDOS ? No one. If you read any software license (including GPL), you find there something like: __O\_/_\_/O__ NO WARRANTY 11. BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS LICENSED FREE OF CHARGE, THERE IS NO WARRANTY FOR THE PROGRAM, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW. EXCEPT WHEN OTHERWISE STATED IN WRITING THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND/OR OTHER PARTIES PROVIDE THE PROGRAM AS IS WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM IS WITH YOU. SHOULD THE PROGRAM PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING, REPAIR OR CORRECTION. 12. IN NO EVENT UNLESS REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE LAW OR AGREED TO IN WRITING WILL ANY COPYRIGHT HOLDER, OR ANY OTHER PARTY WHO MAY MODIFY AND/OR REDISTRIBUTE THE PROGRAM AS PERMITTED ABOVE, BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR DAMAGES, INCLUDING ANY GENERAL, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE THE PROGRAM (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO LOSS OF DATA OR DATA BEING RENDERED INACCURATE OR LOSSES SUSTAINED BY YOU OR THIRD PARTIES OR A FAILURE OF THE PROGRAM TO OPERATE WITH ANY OTHER PROGRAMS), EVEN IF SUCH HOLDER OR OTHER PARTY HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. END OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS _ O/~\ /~\O AE I just tried to startup on a FreeDOS floppy - nothing more. AE Next I removed the floppy and restarted my PC, only to find that all access AE to my W98 and W2000 partitions and in effect everything on my computer was AE lost! This is may be coincindence. For example, modern disks often is bad (for example, IBM DTLA series from Hungary or Fujitsu MPG series) and may crash at any time. BTW, which FreeDOS (kernel) version you try? _If_ this is bug in latest FreeDOS kernel, then it should be fixed. AE Since booting from a DOS boot-diskette normally is safe, FreeDOS obviously AE is a terrorist attack on unsuspecting peoples computers. I myself many times run FreeDOS from floppy and it not destroys my disk. Neither this happen for many other peoples. AE Can you remedy this situation ? First at all, you should give us more details: - partitioning scheme and used file systems (FAT, NTFS). - what mean everything is lost? Do you try to see contents of disk on other computer? AE Or do I need to take legal actions against you ? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Re: corrputed disk (was: )
Hi! 13--2004 17:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arne Eckmann) wrote to Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AE I'm sorry to trouble you with this. FreeDOS really need to have an official AE address to which unsuspecting people like I can address our anger, AE disappointments, frustrations and legal-claims. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: FreeDOS community is not hard hierarhy and doesn't have specialized members, which answer for given and only given question. freedos-user list, probably, is better place to communicate with all community, which agreed to communicate. Of course, there is Jim Hall, which tries to support all FD community, but he (should be) available through freedos-user. (Note: I duplicate this our discussion in freedos-user group.) AE I disagree with your opinion about legal responsibility, This is not my opinion, this is (common) legal opinion, expressed in licence(s). I myself not always agreed with such position (especially for commercial software, for which we pay big moneys), but this is so. AE but never mind AE that, because fortunately I managed to restore my system and gain control by AE booting on a Windows emergency startdiskette, and even though FDISK /MBR AE failed to remove the Linux-bootloader thing that FreeDOS automatically had AE planted on my harddisk the bootpart (v. 2.5) from C. Hm. Looks like you try not plain boot diskette, but FreeDOS installer. In this case you should ask/complain to distributive developer/mantainer (Bernd Blaauw?). FreeDOS itself neither partitions/formats disks nor installs boot manager. AE Vollant did the trick AE and wiped it away and restored a NT-bootloader to my harddisk. Finally the AE SYS C: command transferred a fresh copy of the MSDOS to my harddisk, and I AE was back in control. AE What brought me to FreeDOS ? The need for a bootdiskette which I can use to AE start up in pure and absolute DOS, instead of using the W98 startup diskette AE which isn't absolute and pure DOS. First, MS-DOS 7.x _is_ pure DOS. Second, to get FreeDOS bootdiskette, you may download ODIN (One Disk ... distributive; don't forget to update to latest kernel) or do it yourself manually: just run SYS A: from directory with FreeDOS files and kernel. AE Recently I used OpenDOS for that purpose, and since OpenDOS often changes AE name I thought that FreeDOS simply was just another name for OpenDOS. OpenDOS was used short time by Caldera after boughing DR-DOS from Novell. After this it was renamed to DR-OpenDOS, then back to DR-DOS. Currently this OS mantained by Device Logics. FreeDOS is a separate and independent branch of DOS clones. BTW, unlike FreeDOS, DR-DOS up to now not supports big disks (more than 7.8 Gb) and FAT32. (May be, forthcoming DR-DOS 8?) AE I had my first computer certification on mainframes back in 1968, and in the AE eighties I developed and wrote many applications in assember, for the MSDOS AE platform. AE Now, during all these years a DOS bootdiskette simply was a diskette with AE the minimal system on, which could boot a IBM compatible pc, and leave you AE at the familiar command prompt. And once the computer was turned off or AE reset, all traces of the DOS had disappeared and DOS system in itself didn't AE modify or harm your computer in any way: And that's my expectation to a DOS AE bootdiskette, that it boots to DOS and doesn't harm or modify your computer AE in any way. AE I downloaded the latest image from FreeDOS and rawrite it to a diskette. AE Next the diskette was left in the diskette drive, and the computer was AE restarted. AE In this scenario I was expecting the FreeDOS to boot the computer and leave AE me at the familiar command prompt, Looks like you download not bootdiskette image, but FreeDOS installer. AE while my computer at the same time should AE remain unharmed and unaltered by the FreeDOS. But instead the FreeDOS AE started a hefty write activity on my harddisk, and before I had a chance to AE react it started to talk about installing FreeDOS and Linux from a CD to my AE harddisk. Agreed, this is inappropriate. You should say more: which image/from where you download? We should know where and what should be fixed. AE This is not what I expected or what I wanted, so I instantly removed the AE diskette and pulled the plug. However, the damage had occurred, and since I AE no longer could boot up in W98 or W2Kpro via the usual NT-loader the access AE to my harddisks had disappeared, In case if NT-bootloader is broken (for example, by installing other OS, including W98), you may restore it from Recovery Console, which is available when you boot from NT boot CD. AE being replaced by a terrorist attack that AE insisted that I should install FreeDOS and Linux on my computer. Apparently AE a desperate measure for yet another lost cause. AE Now, in such a situation you sometime can revert the damage done and regain AE control over your computer without loosing much or anything.
Re: [Freedos-user] Re: corrputed disk
Hi, Arkady V.Belousov escribi: Hi! 13--2004 17:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arne Eckmann) wrote to Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AE I'm sorry to trouble you with this. FreeDOS really need to have an official AE address to which unsuspecting people like I can address our anger, AE disappointments, frustrations and legal-claims. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I disagree. There is no channel to communicate anger, and even less for legal claims. Arkady cleared very well the legal issues. Respect to the anger and such, you can obviously post, but most probably you are not likely to get any help, because it will upset people that mostly contribute their spare time to build the operating system. And that is why we choose a license by which noone can be legally liable of any damage produced. If you use FreeDOS or Linux or any other GPL-ed software, *you* are the only responsible. Disappointments and frustrations? well, try. Having said that, if a gentle (that is, anger free) communication channel is opened (that is what the list is for), we are most likely open to try and patch the bugs, for which report we are welcome (and a tool, bugzilla, available, appart from the user list). Furthermore response and patch times are usually shorter than for commercial software. Finally, I am not into the thread (in fact, Arkady's messages are the only ones I have seen about this topic), so I don't know very well what's going on, but if Arkady is right, you seemed not to choose the correct disk to be download. I agree that perhaps there are parts of the FreeDOS project that are not well documented, but the install process and instructions is NOT one of those (I know well because I invest much of my time translating those docs into Spanish), please are you sure that you have read all the accompaining documentation, readme files, etc? (appart from the license file). Writing those takes a substantial amount of time, and that's what they are actually for: so that you get sure that you won't have problems of misuse with what you are doing. My apologies if that all sounded rude, it wasn't my intention. I just posted this message because I thought that the story about legal issues is worth to be posted and reposted to leave things clear. Best wishes, Aitor --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
