[Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread Andrew
Hello Guys, I am new to the mailing list and retro computers in general, (mostly work on linux), but I've been having some problems with installation. I have a Pentium 2 233mhz, 128mb ram, and a compaq presario i486, 8mb of ram ive been trying to install freedos to. After the install and booting

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Andrew, I assume your 486 and your Pentium2 both use ATAPI CD drives and IDE harddisks, not SATA? Can you be more specific about the (harddisk?) read errors on the Pentium 2 after install? What does the BIOS and CMOS setup say about your i486 which does not boot? In general, I recommend the

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread Andrew
Thank you for replying. 1) Both use IDE connectors, no sata. 2) The error simply says disk read error in the pentium 2. The i486 simply has a black screen, like it is trying to load the OS but cannot. Both computer see the hard drive in the bios ( no hard drive post errors). 3) I installed DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] How to list "active" drives?

2021-06-09 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Paul, > On Jun 9, 2021, at 8:48 AM, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-user > wrote: > > I am reading back the list... and I am at the critique of 1.3rc3. > > I think I saw some post about problems of identifying which drives are > "active" (have a driver that drive them). > Somehow it was

Re: [Freedos-user] How to list "active" drives?

2021-06-09 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Paul, next to Jerome's tools, you may also like WHICHFAT and CDROM2: https://auersoft.eu/soft/specials/ C:\>whichfat /? WHICHFAT [x:] Returns: generic: 0=FAT32 kernel, 1=FAT16 kernel 2=/? found. For 1 drive: 0 not FAT, 1 no local drive, 12 FAT12, 16 FAT16, 32 FAT32.

[Freedos-user] How to list "active" drives?

2021-06-09 Thread Paul Dufresne via Freedos-user
I am reading back the list... and I am at the critique of 1.3rc3. I think I saw some post about problems of identifying which drives are "active" (have a driver that drive them). Somehow it was mentions about file manager (GUI one) that helps with that, but seems that it feels not being DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread ZB
On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 07:37:30AM -0700, Andrew wrote: > 2) The error simply says disk read error in the pentium 2. Isn't it clear enough? You've got some sort of hardware problem. Try different cables, different HDD etc. -- regards, Zbigniew ___

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread Andrew
I dont see how it can he hardware related if both DOS 6 and 98 dont have the problem, but freedos, all on the same hdd and same computer, using a 2Gb partition which shouldnt have LBA problems. Also two computers have this same problem. Ive tried multiple drives and multiple cables. On Wed, Jun

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread ZB
On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 08:40:25AM -0700, Andrew wrote: > Ive installed different operating systems on the two hdds I have, over 15 > times in total between them all. Every time DOS and 98 installs fine, > freedos always gives the same error. And if I boot from bios to cd to hdd, > freedos also

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread Andrew
1) The pentium 2 has LBA support, it sees even a 32gb windows 98 partition no problem. i486 has no LBA support, so I keep the partition below 2gb. It is fine seeing the 2gb DOS partition and booting from it. 2) the wording is read error while reading drive This normally shows up when a hdd is

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! > Perhaps just a simple bootloader would fix the problem? I only know of > modern linux ones, perhaps systemd-boot would work from arch? You can load DOS with many boot loaders including GRUB, but that still usually relies on a working boot sector. If the MBR has a problem (as said, FDISK

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread Andrew
Gotcha, Ill need to learn more about this, perhaps try a manual install. Is there any up to date guides for a manual installation? Ive been using the freedos wiki as a guide, are there any better docs available? Particularly about MBR and SYS with freedos? On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:59 AM Eric

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Andrew, > 1) The pentium 2 has LBA support, it sees even a 32gb windows 98 partition > no problem. i486 has no LBA support, so I keep the partition below 2gb. It > is fine seeing the 2gb DOS partition and booting from it. It is possible that you end up getting a LBA-only boot sector when

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread Andrew
Ive installed different operating systems on the two hdds I have, over 15 times in total between them all. Every time DOS and 98 installs fine, freedos always gives the same error. And if I boot from bios to cd to hdd, freedos also works, but I cant do that on i486 computer because it doesnt have

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread Andrew
Gotcha thank you guys for the support, I have to work till the end of this week but will try the recommendations after that. If I get it to work ill let you know what the problem was. Cheers! On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 10:22 AM Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi! > > > Ive been using the freedos wiki as a

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Andrew, > 1) Both use IDE connectors, no sata. > > 2) The error simply says disk read error in the pentium 2. The i486 simply > has a black screen, like it is trying to load the OS but cannot. Both > computer see the hard drive in the bios ( no hard drive post errors). At which point,

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread Andrew
Perhaps just a simple bootloader would fix the problem? I only know of modern linux ones, perhaps systemd-boot would work from arch? On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:01 AM ZB wrote: > On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 08:40:25AM -0700, Andrew wrote: > > > Ive installed different operating systems on the two hdds

Re: [Freedos-user] game compatibility CD/DVD drivers: comparing UDVD2 to OAKCDROM and DOSBOX

2021-06-09 Thread Ralf Quint
On 6/8/2021 9:18 AM, Jim Hall wrote: This is an interesting analysis and comparison between Oak Technology's OAKCDROM (proprietary) and Jack's UDVD2 (free with sources). Have you shared this with Jack? I think he would want to see this so he can improve compatibility in his driver. Are you

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread Carsten Strotmann
Hi Andrew, On 9 Jun 2021, at 19:20, Eric Auer wrote: 9) I will also try the FDISK /INFO command for both situations Enjoy. You could also use XFDISK, which is more user friendly, but shows fewer details. Note that both also have pretty long config files which let you (mis-) configure lots of

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread Jerome Shidel
An additional fact to be aware of… All the normal install media for FreeDOS 1.3-RC4 uses and always installs the 386 kernel with large file system support. Thats the CD media, USB media and CD Boot Floppy. However, the alternate x86 installer uses the 8086 kernel. The current version of this

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread ZB
Maybe let's start with this: how is your HDD partitioned and do you use any boot-loader utility to load FreeDOS? If so - how its FreeDOS section looks like? -- regards, Zbigniew ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net