Re: [Freedos-user] Microsoft C/C++

2007-01-19 Thread Alain M.
Arkady V.Belousov escreveu: > For applications, RTL usually is inherent part, so comparing RTLs > (which also compiled by compilers) together _is_ relevant. On the other > side, given examples make bias point - you may now enough to bias executable > size and compare resulting sizes, not ins

Re: [Freedos-user] Microsoft C/C++

2007-01-19 Thread Japheth
> > How much? MS VC is 6% "better" than OW, both optimizing for size. OW is not bad, especially if comparing MSVC with TC, where MSVC is 25% "better". - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceF

Re: [Freedos-user] Microsoft C/C++

2007-01-19 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 19-Янв-2007 15:09 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japheth) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: >> May you show examples? Starting from minimal "void main(){}", then with >> printf("Hello, world!\n"), then something more complex? With OW 1.6: J> a "dummy" main and a "hello world" main are utt

Re: [Freedos-user] Microsoft C/C++

2007-01-19 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Arkady, [PS: I am still looking for people who can help with reviewing my 2035c versus 2036 diff report, thanks!] >> type test1.c > void main () {} >> wcl test1.c >> wcc TEST1.C >> wlink @__wcl__.lnk >> type test2.c > #include > void main () { printf ("Hello, world!\n"); } ... > TEST1EXE

Re: [Freedos-user] Microsoft C/C++

2007-01-19 Thread tom ehlert
Hello Japheth, >> May you show examples? Starting from minimal "void main(){}", then with >> printf("Hello, world!\n"), then something more complex? With OW 1.6: > a "dummy" main and a "hello world" main are utterly irrelevant if you want to > compare size/speed optimisations (leaving CRT as

Re: [Freedos-user] Microsoft C/C++

2007-01-19 Thread Japheth
> > May you show examples? Starting from minimal "void main(){}", then with > printf("Hello, world!\n"), then something more complex? With OW 1.6: a "dummy" main and a "hello world" main are utterly irrelevant if you want to compare size/speed optimisations (leaving CRT aside). A "complex"

Re: [Freedos-user] Microsoft C/C++

2007-01-19 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 18-Янв-2007 11:31 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japheth) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: >> Better than watcom? How much better and in which areas? J> In Open Watcom just the 32bit C(++) compiler and WD are pretty good. The rest J> is of "mixed" quality. J> With optimisation on MSVC CL