Re: [Freedos-user] Zorland/Zortech C compiler?
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 23:29 -0500, Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) wrote: The compiler (for DOS) hasn't seen any major updates since 1999. Though that may not be as much of a problem for DOS, but OpenWatcom would be a better choice I think. That's fine, I'm only interested in the original Zorland/Zortech C compiler. I already have Watcom and TurboC in my collection. -- http://www.munted.org.uk One very high maintenance cat living here. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] WATTCP-32 dead?
I've been trying to find the latest sources for WATTCP-32, the protected mode TCP/IP library for DOS. All links lead to a dead site or the wrong 16 bit DOS version. I'd be grateful if I could be pointed in the right direction. Many thanks! -- http://www.munted.org.uk One very high maintenance cat living here. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] WATTCP-32 dead?
insert silly name here wrote: I'd be grateful if I could be pointed in the right direction. Many thanks! http://www.bttr-software.de/links/#proglib Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] WATTCP-32 dead?
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 14:10 +0200, Robert Riebisch wrote: insert silly name here wrote: I'd be grateful if I could be pointed in the right direction. Many thanks! http://www.bttr-software.de/links/#proglib I'm delighted, thanks a lot! -- http://www.munted.org.uk One very high maintenance cat living here. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] First time user for Freeedos- can I run PCNFS?
I am currently loading PCNFS drivers under MSDOS. With everything loaded high (as much as possible) I am left with only 462K bytes let for applications. This isn't enough for what I need to do. If I don't load the PCNFS stuff, I can run the application just fine, but then I don't have access to our network. Will Freedos work with PCNFS drivers? Will I have more than 462K available after loading everything? What NICS are supported by Freedos ethernet drivers? thanks -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] updated DOSUTILS (agin)
Oops, i wasn't aware that my e-mail provider will silently send all mail as HTML attachment. So i now try it again, hoping that it will be sent as plain ascii this time. Here it comes . . . Hello everybody, I just want to announce that a new version of my DOSUTILS package is available. It is a collection of utilities which can help in writing batch procedures under true MS-DOS (or any other flavour of DOS) and can be downloaded from http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/ together with the following three other packages: - ETHTOOL a set of utilities for ethernet network analysis, - NTOOL an incarnation of netcat, also known as the swiss army knife of TCP/IP networking and - RMENU which is kind of a telnet server for (MS-)DOS. All these programs may or may not be useful to you, but you will only know that for shure, if you try them and see yourself. Needless to say, that i still apreciate feed-back. ___ NEU: WEB.DE DSL für 19,99 EUR/mtl. und ohne Mindest-Laufzeit! http://produkte.web.de/go/02/ -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] First time user for Freeedos- can I run PCNFS?
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Tony Cappellini cappy2...@gmail.com wrote: I am currently loading PCNFS drivers under MSDOS. With everything loaded high (as much as possible) I am left with only 462K bytes let for applications. This isn't enough for what I need to do. If I don't load the PCNFS stuff, I can run the application just fine, but then I don't have access to our network. Will Freedos work with PCNFS drivers? Will I have more than 462K available after loading everything? What NICS are supported by Freedos ethernet drivers? thanks Ahhh... 17-18Y ago, DOS memory optimisation by hand was one of my particular tricks. I was quite the expert. Completely obsolete skill now, though. My suggestion would be to find a copy of QEMM386 and run Quarterdeck's OPTIMIZE on your system. It did turn your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files into something rather spaghetti-like, but it wrung out every last byte of free RAM. I suspect you might get further with that than with FreeDOS, although I could be wrong... -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] First time user for Freeedos- can I run PCNFS?
Ahhh... 17-18Y ago, DOS memory optimisation by hand was one of my particular tricks. I was quite the expert. Completely obsolete skill now, though. Why use qemm86? Doesn't freedos have a newer/better **emm86? JEMM386 People where i work have already tried to optimize memory for the project I've mentioned- and that's how we got to 462K :-) EMM386 (MSDOS) hangs when I load it- dont know why. If I can load more stuff high using Freedos all its memory management then that's a better solution. I need to hear from the Freedos netowrk driver wizards. thanks -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] First time user for Freeedos- can I run PCNFS?
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 23:00 +0100, Liam Proven wrote: Ahhh... 17-18Y ago, DOS memory optimisation by hand was one of my particular tricks. I was quite the expert. Completely obsolete skill now, though. My suggestion would be to find a copy of QEMM386 and run Quarterdeck's OPTIMIZE on your system. It did turn your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files into something rather spaghetti-like, but it wrung out every last byte of free RAM. I suspect you might get further with that than with FreeDOS, although I could be wrong... This really depends on how much ram you have free in the upper memory block. Usually this would be 128k at the most. I can do a lot with that. I spent ages looking for the smallest functional drivers I could get away with. For example, BENQ.SYS is about 5k and I use it a lot with CD ROM drives using MSCDEX.EXE. I find that if you use the tiniest device drivers available, you can put a lot into these upper memory blocks! -- http://www.munted.org.uk One very high maintenance cat living here. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Zorland/Zortech C compiler?
Hi Conan That wouldn't be Borland C, would it? I built an entire e-book writing-reading-publishing suite for DOS using Borland C in 1989-91 Cheers Martwww.martin-woodhouse.co.uk From: Conan Kudo I was wondering if anyone knows more than there is on wikipedia? I'd be interested in finding out more about that compiler and most importantly if anyone's still got the binaries stored safely. I think that this could be an important thing in the history of early C compilers that included TurboC and its ilk. I seem to remember writing a disk editor with Zorland C, would have to be during the late 1990s. I still have the sources for that but can't find the compiler that I originally used to write it. Many thanks! -- http://www.munted.org.uk One very high maintenance cat living here. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Zorland/Zortech C compiler?
At 05:52 PM 5/27/2010, Martin Woodhouse wrote: Hi Conan That wouldn't be Borland C, would it? I built an entire e-book writing-reading-publishing suite for DOS using Borland C in 1989-91 No, that wouldn't. As already mentioned, the compiler he is looking for is now called Digital Mars C/C++ and is available as freeware for download from the author's (Walter Bright) web site at www.digitalmars.com . The compiler was called in the past (in order of appearance) Northwest Software C Datalight C Zorland C Zortech C (after a nudge from Borland apparently) Zortech C++ Symantec C++ (after selling the rights to Symantec) Digital Mars C++ (after Walter got the rights back from Symantec) And unfortunately, the compiler that can be downloaded nowadays does not run under 16 bit DOS as I previously mentioned, I was used to run it on the command line of a Windows 98 machine. Though it is capable of producing 16 bit DOS executables, it is a Win32 console program... So the only still available 16 bit C compiler that still runs on 16 bit DOS is DeSmet C 3.1 (which is now Open Source)... I personally prefer Borlands C/C++ 3.1 myself, it's still after all those years the most usable DOS C/C++ compiler that still runs on 16 bit DOS, though unfortunately, only the older version of Turbo C++ 1.01 is available from Borland's/Imprise's/Codegear's/Embaradero's museums page as freeware (not Open Source). But still good enough if you in fact want to write real DOS programs... Ralf -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
