Re: [Freedos-user] Balder: Can't move system files into \fdos

2010-08-05 Thread Tom Ehlert
kernel.sys

Tom


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Re: [Freedos-user] Balder: Can't move system files into \fdos

2010-08-05 Thread Tom Ehlert
 kernel.sys

 Tom

 Thank you for your answer, but I'm afraid you have to spell it out.
 There is no kernel.sys in the Balder image - at least not any that can
 be seen by a ls -al or find.

the 'at least' part is important. and moving kernel.sys into a
subdirectory is a bad idea

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Re: [Freedos-user] Balder: Can't move system files into \fdos

2010-08-05 Thread Mike Eriksen
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Tom Ehlert t...@drivesnapshot.de wrote:
 kernel.sys

 Tom

 Thank you for your answer, but I'm afraid you have to spell it out.
 There is no kernel.sys in the Balder image - at least not any that can
 be seen by a ls -al or find.

 the 'at least' part is important. and moving kernel.sys into a
 subdirectory is a bad idea

Argh! I must have gone blind... It's not kernel.sys but KERNEL.SYS and
that's a difference to a unix guy. Anyway I should have spotted it.

It works now - thanks.

Mike

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[Freedos-user] Recommondatipn of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client

2010-08-05 Thread Mike Eriksen
I have had great fun the last couple of day remembering DOS and
enjoying the progress FD has made to plain old DOS.

So far I have a boot floppy with support for both ATA and SATA CD-ROM
and USB sticks. Very satisfying.

But more wants more and now I try to get networked. I followed this
guide: 
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS_-_NDIS_driver_installation
so now I have NDIS2 driver and packet driver up and running. I think,
at least there is no error message and the driver takes up RAM.

But now I need a TCP/IP stack and some basic network programs, most
importantly a dhcp client but also ping, ftp, telnet... I've googled
and searching the FD pages but haven't really found what I look for.
Could someone please point me in the right direction. I somewhere read
that the FTP Software Inc suite is freely available, but I can't find
it.

Mike

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Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondatipn of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client

2010-08-05 Thread Robert Riebisch
Mike Eriksen wrote:

 But more wants more and now I try to get networked. I followed this
 guide: 
 http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS_-_NDIS_driver_installation
 so now I have NDIS2 driver and packet driver up and running. I think,
 at least there is no error message and the driver takes up RAM.
 
 But now I need a TCP/IP stack and some basic network programs, most
 importantly a dhcp client but also ping, ftp, telnet... I've googled
 and searching the FD pages but haven't really found what I look for.

Did you read the other pages at
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondatipn of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client

2010-08-05 Thread Mike Eriksen
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Robert Riebisch r...@bttr-software.de wrote:
 Mike Eriksen wrote:

 But more wants more and now I try to get networked. I followed this
 guide: 
 http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS_-_NDIS_driver_installation
 so now I have NDIS2 driver and packet driver up and running. I think,
 at least there is no error message and the driver takes up RAM.

 But now I need a TCP/IP stack and some basic network programs, most
 importantly a dhcp client but also ping, ftp, telnet... I've googled
 and searching the FD pages but haven't really found what I look for.

 Did you read the other pages at
 http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS?

 Robert Riebisch

Yes, but apparently I missed mTCP entry thats looks perfect. I'll have
to investigate.

Thanks a lot for the hint.

Mike

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Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondatipn of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client

2010-08-05 Thread Ulrich Hansen
Am 05.08.2010 21:39, schrieb Mike Eriksen:

 But now I need a TCP/IP stack and some basic network programs, most
 importantly a dhcp client but also ping, ftp, telnet... I've googled
 and searching the FD pages but haven't really found what I look for.

Go to Erick Engelkes website
http://www.erickengelke.com/wattcp/

and download WATTCP.
wat2002b.zip

Binaries are in the folder apps as apps.zip

Then go to the WATT32 site of Gisle Vanem. Binaries can be found in 
the file
watt32b-2.2-dev.10.zip.

Additional WATT32 programs can be downloaded here:
http://www.filegate.net/utiln/utilnet/wt32apps.zip

If you have installed the full CD distribution of freedos, you already 
may have some wattcp-programs (wget, arachne) installed on your 
system. There should be also a SET statement in your AUTOEXEC.BAT that 
points to the configuration file WATTCP.CFG.

Edit this file like described in:
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS_-_WATTCP

and start networking... ;-)

 I somewhere read
 that the FTP Software Inc suite is freely available, but I can't find
 it.

Not that I heard of. But you may still buy it:
http://www.bomara.com/FTP/products/pctcp5/default.htm

Uli

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Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondatipn of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client

2010-08-05 Thread Mike Eriksen
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Willi Wasser wiw...@web.de wrote:
 E . . .  first i don't quite understand why you need an NDIS(2) driver 
 _and_ a packet driver?
 A packet driver suitable for your network card allone should already do the 
 job.

Neither do I, but I must admit it's 15-20 year ago I did DOS
networking and frankly I remember very little. I decided to follow the
guide on the mentioned freedos page and thus ended up with both NDIS
and a packet driver. I assume I can lose the protman.* and the
protocol.ini as well as netbind then?

 There are quite a number of TCP/IP stacks for DOS out there, many of them are 
 commecial products.

 Rather popular and free, is WATTCP written by Erick Engelke, although it 
 isn't a stack in the proper sense. Rather it's a library of TCP/IP routines 
 that is linked directly into the application programs. For the user of such 
 programs this doesn't make much difference.

 Basic programs, like PING, TRACEROUTE, an FTP-client etc. come with it. It 
 isn't that difficult to set-up. All you need is a packet driver and a 
 configuration file and there you go.

 An alternative might be the set of programs Mike Brutman wrote for his mTCP 
 projects, which is also frtee.

Yes, I think I'll try this one out first. It new and sexy, but agreed
WATTCP is tested and tried. We'll see.

 Last, but not least, you might have a look on some of the networking programs 
 i wrote which you will find here: 
 http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/

I'll have a look for sure. Thank you.

Mike

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