Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client

2010-08-11 Thread Ulrich Hansen
Am 09.08.2010 18:59, schrieb Alain Mouette:
 A sI said, I just installed a FreeDOS machine with those realtec drivers
 las week,
 Using www.netbootdisk.com

Netbootdisk is really impressive. Automatic network driver detection, 
98 different drivers on a 1.44 MB disk. There's even a nice video 
walkthrough for those who want to get an impression of the software:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb3YcLDpa8U

Netbootdisk does not install packet drivers. It installs a NDIS driver 
and MS Client so you can create and use network shares. Netbootdisk 
also installs a shim that makes the NDIS driver work as packet driver 
as well, so you can use ftp or ping.

Nevertheless if you don't want MS Client you may be better off with 
just a packet driver (if there is one), which leaves more free memory 
for applications.

 I installed FreeDOS in Virtualbox last week. Virtualbox uses a AMD
 PCnet-Fast III card. A free packet driver pcntpk.com for this card
 is available at:
 http://www.crynwr.com/drivers/amdpd.zip

Correction: I just saw that the driver is already part of the FreeDOS 
FullCD distribution. So if the network part has been installed, it 
can be located here:

C:\FDOS\DRIVERS\NET\CRYNWR\PCNTPK.COM

The virtual network card of vbox should be automatically detected by 
the FreeDOS installer and a line be added to AUTOEXEC.BAT. If this is 
not the case, automatic detection can be restarted with:

C:\FDOS\CRYNWR.BAT


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Re: [Freedos-user] Dualboot with Knoppix?

2010-08-11 Thread Christian Masloch
 Has any FreeDOS user ever dualbooted with Knoppix (DSL)?

No.

Regards,
Christian Masloch

PS.: If using GRUB, instruct it to boot the FAT partition on which you  
installed FreeDOS. Or create a boot sector file of the DOS FAT partition  
with FreeDOS SYS then boot that.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Dualboot with Knoppix?

2010-08-11 Thread Alain Mouette
Knopix is a bit old, but I usualy dualboot with Ubuntu. This is the easy 
path:

* FreeDOS should be in the first primary partition (sda1)
* the partition should be set active.
* Use grub, Ubuntu configures it automaticaly, but calls it windows

FreeDOS will not boot from extended partitions, and there are 
*sometimes* problems with other primary partitions (but I have done it)

Alain

Em 11-08-2010 19:20, david lowe escreveu:
 Has any FreeDOS user ever dualbooted with Knoppix (DSL)?

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   Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 19:53:35 -0700
   From: Someone plu...@robinson-west.com
   Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP
   client
   To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
   Message-ID: 1281149616.24338.100.ca...@goose.robinson-west.com
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   On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 23:10 -0300, Alain Mouette wrote:
I completly disagree.
   
Just today I installed FreeDOS on a brand new Asus board with SATA2 a
gigabit ethernet chip.
   
Simple: go to www.netbootdisk.com and create a floppy. After it boots
and detects the NIC, copy it's driver including packet driver. Easy...
   
The truth is that if you have an application that is worth using with
FreeDOS, drivers exist :)
   
And it is damn fast
   
Alain
  
   Command line Linux tuned properly is also fast where Linux supports more
   network cards than Freedos does. Another problem, how did you find out
   that there is a driver for your particular card? For Linux users, the
   kernel supports a lot of network cards straight off.
  
   Does Freedos support common nics such as:
  
   Netgear Fa311/Fa312?
  
   Thuderlan dual port 10/100 nics?
  
   AOpen nics?
  
   Tulip nics?
  
   Other nics?
  
   I stand by my statement that TCP/IP and DOS are probably not the best
   combination. DOS does not protect the hardware from programs that
   execute, because it can't. DOS cannot stop viruses/worms very easily
   because it doesn't shield the hardware in the first place. This is
   all the more reason to avoid connecting to global networks from a
   DOS based environment.
  
   How about DOSbox, Virtualbox, and VMWARE nics? Can Freedos use any
   virtual NICS?
  
  
  
  
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   Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 12:32:20 +0200
   From: Mike Eriksen thinstation.m...@gmail.com
   Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP
   client
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   On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Someone plu...@robinson-west.com wrote:
I question whether TCP/IP is the best way to go in a DOS environment.
  
   That depend on your needs. Been a member of the Thinstation Linux thin
   client team, I have all the lightweight Linux I could wish. My
   original need came from the need to BIOS upgrade a floppyless Ubuntu
   box. I ended up by adding the DOS flash program and the BIOS image to
   a Balder image, make an ISO of it and problem solved. Not very
   elegant. So I decided to explore if I could make a boot floppy with
   USB support so I could put the flash program and BIOS image on a
   writable device and not have to create a new ISO every time (not that
   it happens often, but now it got a pet project).
  
   Having reached this, I wanted more: the ability to download the flash
   program and the image directly with wget or even a text browser. This
   is a bit hard to accomplish without TCP/IP :-) I've put the network
   stack, applications