Re: [Freedos-user] Help with installing FreeDOS on second partition

2015-08-23 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Marlon Ng guik...@gmail.com wrote:

 First partition, drive C:, of hard disk is Windows 7. Second partition
 (50MB), drive H: , is for FreeDos.

It's been a while since I've installed FD from .iso (mostly under
emulators), but I'll try to help.

 I downloaded the FreeDos iso file fdbasecd.iso,

Why that old one? A quick double-check online shows fd11src.iso as newest:

http://www.freedos.org/download/

 mount it on a virtual drive, installed it in the second partition (drive H:).

You just ran the installer, I take it? Didn't manually do anything else?

 The files are in H:\FDOS, not in the root directory H:\. Is this ok?

The only files that should (presumably) be in the root directory are
KERNEL.SYS and maybe COMMAND.COM . Don't delete anything, but I don't
think you (normally) need more than that in root. So yes, everything
else in H:\FDOS (presumably %DOSDIR%) is reasonable.

 Downloaded EasyBCD 2.3 Beta build (because 2.2 does not have FreeDOS OS as
 an option to include in the boot menu).

Yes, Vista on up don't support the old (easier?) XP way via BOOT.INI,
so you have to use EasyBCD. Well, or you could just use something
ultra simple (like BootMgr, which fits in the MBR), assuming you've
already got an active FAT partition that has its own local boot
sector installed via SYS.COM .

 Managed to add FreeDOS in the boot menu, but when I try to boot FreeDOS, I
 get what seems like the GRUB boot manager saying something which I forgot.

Is GRUB installed on your FAT partition?? Then I doubt it's GRUB.
Presumably it's just saying not an active partition or can't find
boot sector or something similar. So you probably need to (re)run
SYS.COM (or maybe FDISK /MBR ... I forget, might be dangerous, can't
remember whether it partially modifies/preserves the existing
partition table, at worst you should probably save your existing MBR
to file via BOOTMGR.COM first).

 I cannot boot FreeDOS.

 Any ideas?

 Thank you for your time.

I'm not sure if it's reasonable to install FreeDOS from within Win7
itself. (You are talking about native physical install, not
virtualized, right?) You said you mounted on virtual drive, but that
presumably doesn't give you raw hard drive access. Normally you boot
DOS itself (natively, via floppy or CD or USB) and manually run the
installer tools, e.g. fdisk, (reboot), format, sys, xcopy, (etc.). So
if you already have an active FAT partition, you can then run (DOS)
sys.com, something like this: sys a: c: /BOOTONLY to update the boot
sector.

An easier way (or maybe good way to troubleshoot / repair) is to use
RUFUS, which is a bootable USB made from within Windows itself:
http://rufus.akeo.ie/

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[Freedos-user] Help with installing FreeDOS on second partition

2015-08-23 Thread Marlon Ng
Hi!

First partition, drive C:, of hard disk is Windows 7. Second partition
(50MB), drive H: , is for FreeDos.

I downloaded the FreeDos iso file fdbasecd.iso, mount it on a virtual
drive, installed it in the second partition (drive H:). The files are in
H:\FDOS, not in the root directory H:\. Is this ok?

Downloaded EasyBCD 2.3 Beta build (because 2.2 does not have FreeDOS OS as
an option to include in the boot menu).

Managed to add FreeDOS in the boot menu, but when I try to boot FreeDOS, I
get what seems like the GRUB boot manager saying something which I forgot.

I cannot boot FreeDOS.

Any ideas?

Thank you for your time.
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Re: [Freedos-user] opengem

2015-08-23 Thread Louis Santillan
2.05 is nearing release thanks to Andris, Eli, Juan, Ozakan.  Andrew
Wu has even updated his build-djgpp cross-compiler to support the 2.05
beta [0].

[0] 
https://github.com/andrewwutw/build-djgpp/commit/7251f8f70661bafeeed9bb5172a7ae6c3bf34741

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Thomas Mueller mueller6...@twc.com wrote:
 from Louis Santillan:

 Will you 1) be moving your project hosting and 2) porting to DJGPP 2.05?

 You mean DJGPP is up to 2.05?

 I went to their website, and current version was 2.03.  I remember there was 
 a 2.04 beta, but never heard of DJGPP 2.05.

 www.delorie.com/djgpp/

 Tom


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Re: [Freedos-user] opengem

2015-08-23 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Louis Santillan:

 Will you 1) be moving your project hosting and 2) porting to DJGPP 2.05?

You mean DJGPP is up to 2.05?  

I went to their website, and current version was 2.03.  I remember there was a 
2.04 beta, but never heard of DJGPP 2.05.

www.delorie.com/djgpp/

Tom


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Re: [Freedos-user] opengem

2015-08-23 Thread Georg Potthast
 Will you 1) be moving your project hosting and 2) porting to DJGPP 2.05?

I already moved the files to Sourceforge: 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/fltk-dos/
But I still have to add screenshots and stuff at that site.

Yes, when DJGPP 2.05 is released I plan to use that. At the moment I find 
things
rather confusing with the 2.05 files in different directories and mixed with 
2.04
and 2.03 utilities. To what extend can you use the existing 2.03/2.04 
utilities when
using DJGPP 2.05 to compile applications?

 Perhaps a more updated alternative to opengem would be XFDOS
 I have tried it and found it be quite an impressive interface and its word
 processor alone is worth giving it a try.
 http://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/news/2013/04/xfdos-graphical-freedos-distribution/


I think some people are just interested in vintage computing and therefore 
do
not look at new DOS applications.

Georg


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