Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-02 Thread Ben Collver
I realize this is not exactly what you are looking for, but another option is 
an RS-232 WIFI modem.  Below are eBay links for four ready-made products, plus 
a link describing how to DIY with a Raspberry Pi.  All of these options are 
powered by a USB cable.  I am guessing that a system with a Pentium 3 processor 
will have a USB port.  The DIY option looks promising to me because i could run 
SSH on the Raspberry PI, effectively offloading the crypto from the DOS CPU.

ArcaneByte RS232 WiFi Wireless Modem for Vintage Computers DB25
https://www.ebay.com/itm/203949086189

Simple Wifi RS232 Modem v2 DB25
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265519698197

WiFi Serial Modem for Retro Vintage computer Zimodem DB9
https://www.ebay.com/itm/204292941579

WiRSa v2 WiFi Wireless RS232 Serial Modem Adapter and SD card reader DB9
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175299622202

DIY internet access from a vintage computer using Raspberry Pi
https://magpi.raspberrypi.com/articles/add-internet-access-to-a-vintage-computer-using-raspberry-pi

Another option is dual-booting.  I have a Pentium 3 laptop with FreeDOS 
installed, but i also carry around a Puppy Linux live CD just in case.  Puppy 
Linux has drivers for the laptop's built-in WIFI and i can use the live CD to 
do a quick download and save it to disk.  Just for fun, nothing serious.

-Ben

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-02 Thread tauro via Freedos-user

That's great news!
Where can it be found?
Would you please share a link to it?

Thank you

Tauro

On 2/6/23 21:10, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Yes, actually.
someone updated sshdos so that it can support more current dh keys and 
so forth.

Using it as I write in fact.



On Fri, 2 Jun 2023, tauro via Freedos-user wrote:

Since you're talking about the internet, considering one is 
successful setting up the NIC,


Is there a fully working/updated SSH client for DOS? With support for 
current ciphers, MACs and kex algorithms?


Tauro


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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-02 Thread Karen Lewellen

Yes, actually.
someone updated sshdos so that it can support more current dh keys and so 
forth.

Using it as I write in fact.



On Fri, 2 Jun 2023, tauro via Freedos-user wrote:

Since you're talking about the internet, considering one is successful 
setting up the NIC,


Is there a fully working/updated SSH client for DOS? With support for current 
ciphers, MACs and kex algorithms?


Tauro


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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-02 Thread Karen Lewellen

thanks for sharing your perspective.
I am using pure DOS, including the packet driver setup for my desktop 
right now.
My hope, as  You provide here, is a list of suitable network hardware, cards 
or on board, that can manage the task.
If it is not freedos specific, meaning freedos can manage any such card, 
that may be a solution, some of the 3com tools manage this.

Cheers,
Karen



On Sat, 3 Jun 2023, Micha�~B Dec wrote:


Hi,

FreeDOS can be used to access a network if your network card has a DOS 
driver. Those are usually provided by the manufacturer of said card. You'll 
probably want a "packet driver", but I think someone who has more experience 
with networking under DOS would be able to give you better info. I remember 
quitting the entire ordeal because I had wget and other network tools crash 
all the time, and they exhibited some seriously jarring bugs like resolving 
domains that are supposed to be aliases, and not resolvable by any DNS. But 
that was when I was still using JEMMEX/JEMM386 so it's probably my fault.


Best regards,

Michał

W dniu 3.06.2023 o 00:02, Karen Lewellen pisze:

 Hi folks,
 After having been on this list for years, although I not running freedos,
 I am considering a machine using the system alone.
 That machine would be a laptop, likely a p3 much as my desktops are, if
 unwise.
 My main serious concern is how freedos would access the Internet from such
 a machine.
 Its been a long time, but previously only a handful of cards could   use
 Freedos and network, has this changed?
 If so, what  laptop specific hardware can freedos access for accessing
 the Internet?
 Thanks,
 Karen




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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-02 Thread tauro via Freedos-user
Since you're talking about the internet, considering one is successful 
setting up the NIC,


Is there a fully working/updated SSH client for DOS? With support for 
current ciphers, MACs and kex algorithms?


Tauro


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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-02 Thread Michał Dec

Hi,

FreeDOS can be used to access a network if your network card has a DOS 
driver. Those are usually provided by the manufacturer of said card. 
You'll probably want a "packet driver", but I think someone who has more 
experience with networking under DOS would be able to give you better 
info. I remember quitting the entire ordeal because I had wget and other 
network tools crash all the time, and they exhibited some seriously 
jarring bugs like resolving domains that are supposed to be aliases, and 
not resolvable by any DNS. But that was when I was still using 
JEMMEX/JEMM386 so it's probably my fault.


Best regards,

Michał

W dniu 3.06.2023 o 00:02, Karen Lewellen pisze:

Hi folks,
After having been on this list for years, although I not running 
freedos, I am considering a machine using the system alone.
That machine would be a laptop, likely a p3 much as my desktops are, 
if unwise.
My main serious concern is how freedos would access the Internet from 
such a machine.
Its been a long time, but previously only a handful of cards could   
use Freedos and network, has this changed?
If so, what  laptop specific hardware can freedos access for accessing 
the Internet?

Thanks,
Karen




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[Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

2023-06-02 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi folks,
After having been on this list for years, although I not running freedos, I 
am considering a machine using the system alone.
That machine would be a laptop, likely a p3 much as my desktops are, if 
unwise.
My main serious concern is how freedos would access the Internet from such 
a machine.
Its been a long time, but previously only a handful of cards could   use 
Freedos and network, has this changed?
If so, what  laptop specific hardware can freedos access for accessing the 
Internet?

Thanks,
Karen




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