Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?
Hi there, I have not chosen the machine yet, intended to choose based on freedos requirements for networking. as I require a serial port though, modern as sometimes defined by others is less likely, but the physical port is an absolute must. still this is helpful, if I locate say a thinkpad with onboard chip work for networking, along with my required serial port I may be in fine stead indeed. Kare On Sat, 3 Jun 2023, Omar Yabar via Freedos-user wrote: Hello Karen, turning back to your original question, there is a plenty of network chips freedos friendly, in order to know what chip is in your laptop you can use Astra http://www.sysinfolab.com/download.htm last version May 04, 2023, most popular network chip is Realtek RTL8111, RTL8168, RTL8169, RTL8136, etc; Intel E1000, E100; Atheros L1,L2, AR81XX, etc; VIA Velocity Gigabit, etc; Marvell Yukon; Broadcom B57, BX2, B44, etc; the list is very long. In my website you will find more information http://www.packetdriversdos.net one important advice is there not many modern packet driver, but using a "Shim" you can use?? ODI drivers or NDIS drivers working as packet drivers with small tweaks. In conclusion, many modern laptops are freedos friendly, even with 10th gen Intel Processors and more than 4gb of RAM, the only limitation is UEFI, if the laptop doesn't have CSM it is impossible to load Freedos.Good Luck Enviado desde Yahoo Mail para Android El vie., 2 de jun. de 2023 a la(s) 5:04 p.??m., Karen Lewellen escribi??: Hi folks, After having been on this list for years, although I not running freedos, I am considering a machine using the system alone. That machine would be a laptop, likely a p3 much as my desktops are, if unwise. My main serious concern is how freedos would access the Internet from such a machine. Its been a long time, but previously only a handful of cards could?? use Freedos and network, has this changed? If so, what?? laptop specific hardware can freedos access for accessing the Internet? Thanks, Karen ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?
Hello Karen, turning back to your original question, there is a plenty of network chips freedos friendly, in order to know what chip is in your laptop you can use Astra http://www.sysinfolab.com/download.htm last version May 04, 2023, most popular network chip is Realtek RTL8111, RTL8168, RTL8169, RTL8136, etc; Intel E1000, E100; Atheros L1,L2, AR81XX, etc; VIA Velocity Gigabit, etc; Marvell Yukon; Broadcom B57, BX2, B44, etc; the list is very long. In my website you will find more information http://www.packetdriversdos.net one important advice is there not many modern packet driver, but using a "Shim" you can use ODI drivers or NDIS drivers working as packet drivers with small tweaks. In conclusion, many modern laptops are freedos friendly, even with 10th gen Intel Processors and more than 4gb of RAM, the only limitation is UEFI, if the laptop doesn't have CSM it is impossible to load Freedos.Good Luck Enviado desde Yahoo Mail para Android El vie., 2 de jun. de 2023 a la(s) 5:04 p. m., Karen Lewellen escribió: Hi folks, After having been on this list for years, although I not running freedos, I am considering a machine using the system alone. That machine would be a laptop, likely a p3 much as my desktops are, if unwise. My main serious concern is how freedos would access the Internet from such a machine. Its been a long time, but previously only a handful of cards could use Freedos and network, has this changed? If so, what laptop specific hardware can freedos access for accessing the Internet? Thanks, Karen ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?
I respect you realize this is not what I am seeking. while the idea is absolutely not a door for me, perhaps others will find it useful. On Sat, 3 Jun 2023, Ben Collver wrote: I realize this is not exactly what you are looking for, but another option is an RS-232 WIFI modem. Below are eBay links for four ready-made products, plus a link describing how to DIY with a Raspberry Pi. All of these options are powered by a USB cable. I am guessing that a system with a Pentium 3 processor will have a USB port. The DIY option looks promising to me because i could run SSH on the Raspberry PI, effectively offloading the crypto from the DOS CPU. ArcaneByte RS232 WiFi Wireless Modem for Vintage Computers DB25 https://www.ebay.com/itm/203949086189 Simple Wifi RS232 Modem v2 DB25 https://www.ebay.com/itm/265519698197 WiFi Serial Modem for Retro Vintage computer Zimodem DB9 https://www.ebay.com/itm/204292941579 WiRSa v2 WiFi Wireless RS232 Serial Modem Adapter and SD card reader DB9 https://www.ebay.com/itm/175299622202 DIY internet access from a vintage computer using Raspberry Pi https://magpi.raspberrypi.com/articles/add-internet-access-to-a-vintage-computer-using-raspberry-pi Another option is dual-booting. I have a Pentium 3 laptop with FreeDOS installed, but i also carry around a Puppy Linux live CD just in case. Puppy Linux has drivers for the laptop's built-in WIFI and i can use the live CD to do a quick download and save it to disk. Just for fun, nothing serious. -Ben ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?
Others are better with links then myself. If someone does not provide it, may I suggest searching for the term updated ssh for dos? Should bring up the package. Sorry, Kare On Fri, 2 Jun 2023, tauro via Freedos-user wrote: That's great news! Where can it be found? Would you please share a link to it? Thank you Tauro On 2/6/23 21:10, Karen Lewellen wrote: Yes, actually. someone updated sshdos so that it can support more current dh keys and so forth. Using it as I write in fact. On Fri, 2 Jun 2023, tauro via Freedos-user wrote: > Since you're talking about the internet, considering one is successful > setting up the NIC, > > Is there a fully working/updated SSH client for DOS? With support for > current ciphers, MACs and kex algorithms? > > Tauro > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?
https://github.com/AnttiTakala/SSH2DOS Unfortunately, it did not seem to work anymore last time I tried it. It may be possible to enable some legacy ciphers on the ssh server to make it work. Personally, I telnet to another PC and and ssh from there. On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 7:42 PM tauro via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > That's great news! > Where can it be found? > Would you please share a link to it? > > Thank you > > Tauro > > On 2/6/23 21:10, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Yes, actually. > > someone updated sshdos so that it can support more current dh keys and > > so forth. > > Using it as I write in fact. > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2 Jun 2023, tauro via Freedos-user wrote: > > > >> Since you're talking about the internet, considering one is > >> successful setting up the NIC, > >> > >> Is there a fully working/updated SSH client for DOS? With support for > >> current ciphers, MACs and kex algorithms? > >> > >> Tauro > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Freedos-user mailing list > >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > >> > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
