Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

2024-04-06 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user
Hi,

> On Apr 6, 2024, at 8:40 PM, Norby Droid via Freedos-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> One issue I find alot when tryin to install FreeDos is that it would go most 
> of the way through the install then without any reason and no explanation as 
> to why, it just stops and says there is a problem so reboot or exit.

The installer is batch based. It uses other executable utilities to perform the 
required tasks. This limits the amount of information that is passed back to 
the installer when an error occurs. 

However, there are only a couple things that generally cause an install to fail 
after packages have already started to extract successfully.

Corrupted install media.
Insufficient disk space.
File conflicts.

Around the time of the 1.3 release, there was a file conflict that would occur 
when Full+Sources was selected. One of the packages contained its source files 
and those of another package. So when selected, it would cause a conflict 
during installation. That conflict was resolved and does not occur in the 
latest test builds.

You could just install BASE with or without sources. Then after rebooting from 
the installed system, put the CD back into the drive and run FDIMPLES. 

That will make it easy to install any additional packages that could have been 
installed with FULL or those from the BonusCD.

You could also try the monthly interim test build of FreeDOS. While it is not a 
“release”, it contains many fixes since 1.3 and numerous software updates. 
However, it is a test build and some of the updated software may have issues. 
It is available on ibiblio in the test directory for distributions.

> 
> I have FD in three locations.  Second drive in my old desktop, usb drive, and 
> in connectix virtual pc in windows xp.  The glitch would happen no matter 
> which environment I use.  I decided to use 7zip to test and extract all files 
> from the liveCD and all passed and was successful.  As another test I went in 
> and tested all the .zip files found in the directories and they also all 
> passed the test.  I take from this that if the files are good then the issue 
> is with my system?

If your installing Full + Sources, possibly not.

> 
> Is there any way to find out why it crashes? 

Not really. 

When 1.3 was released, there was no reliable good was to record such 
information during installation.

Since that time, a new utility was created that can efficiently record boot 
messages, program output and other messages. That programs recording could be 
output to a log when needed. 

However, no decision has been made to use the program on the install media. If 
it were, support could be added to the installer to record more detailed 
information about the installation process. 


> I know in the latest version on ibiblio the file “TestDisk” is where it would 
> always crash.  Is it possible to just extract all the .zip files into 
> separate directories in each folder the zips reside in and still have a 
> proper FreeDos install?

Well, mostly yes. But, there are some issues with dying it that way.

Most programs that come with FreeDOS will work fine regardless of what 
directory they are located. However, a few won’t and need configured for their 
location.

Also, the directories in the zip archive are meta-directories. Many paths are 
remapped during the package installation.  

:-)
Jerome

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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS install

2024-04-06 Thread Norby Droid via Freedos-user
One issue I find alot when tryin to install FreeDos is that it would go
most of the way through the install then without any reason and no
explanation as to why, it just stops and says there is a problem so reboot
or exit.

I have FD in three locations.  Second drive in my old desktop, usb drive,
and in connectix virtual pc in windows xp.  The glitch would happen no
matter which environment I use.  I decided to use 7zip to test and extract
all files from the liveCD and all passed and was successful.  As another
test I went in and tested all the .zip files found in the directories and
they also all passed the test.  I take from this that if the files are good
then the issue is with my system?

Is there any way to find out why it crashes?  I know in the latest version
on ibiblio the file “TestDisk” is where it would always crash.  Is it
possible to just extract all the .zip files into separate directories in
each folder the zips reside in and still have a proper FreeDos install?

I love FreeDos and use it more than xp for Basic Programming in a couple
different ones (PowerBasic 3.5 and FreeBasic).

Thank You Jim Hall amd all those involved with its development.
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