[Freedos-user] [OT] Videoconference references
I mentioned these historic examples. The first describes a hydraulic
analog computer.
{The MONIAC (Monetary National Income Analogue Computer), also the
Phillips Hydraulic Computer and the Financephalograph, was created in
1949 by the New Zealand economist Bill Phillips to model the national
economic processes of the United Kingdom, while Phillips was a student
at the London School of Economics (LSE). The MONIAC is an analogue
computer which used fluidic logic to model the workings of an economy.
The MONIAC name is suggested by associating money and ENIAC, an early
electronic digital computer.}
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MONIAC
This second subject, explains an algorithm's mistaken assumption. Its
economic cost was USD 1.2 billion, or EUR 1.1 billion!
{Put in place in July 2016 and announced to the public in December of
the same year,[6][7] the scheme aimed to replace the formerly manual
system of calculating overpayments and issuing debt notices to welfare
recipients with an automated data-matching system that compared
Centrelink records with averaged income data from the Australian
Taxation Office.[5][6]}
{The Australian government lost a 2019 lawsuit over the legality of the
income averaging process, and settled a class action lawsuit in 2020.
The scheme was further condemned by Federal Court Justice Bernard Murphy
in his June 2021 ruling against the Government where he approved a A$1.8
billion settlement including repayments of debts paid, wiping of
outstanding debts, and legal costs.[17]}
{"That the Department of Human Services should resume full
responsibility for calculating verifiable debts (including manual
checking) relating to income support overpayments, which are based on
actual fortnightly earnings and not an assumed average; and provide
those issued debt notices with the debt calculation data required to be
assured any debts are correct".}
{In November 2019, the federal government agreed to orders by the
Federal Court of Australia in Amato v the Commonwealth that the
averaging process using ATO income data to calculate debts was unlawful,
and announced that it would no longer raise debts without first
gathering evidence – such as payslips – to prove a person had
underreported their earnings to Centrelink.[1][2]}
{On 31 May 2020, Attorney-General Christian Porter, who was Minister for
Social Services when the Robodebt system was first implemented, and who
had previously defended the scheme,[33] conceded that the use of
averaged income data to calculate welfare overpayments was unlawful,
stating that there was "no lawful basis for it".[9][47]}
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robodebt_scheme
{The report concluded that the robodebt scheme was "devised without
regard to the social security law", and that the use of income averaging
in estimating entitlements "was essentially unfair, treating many people
as though they had received income at a time when they had not".[20]}
{In the aftermath of the final report, Kathryn Campbell, secretary of
the Department of Human Services from 2011 to 2017, was suspended
without pay from her position as a special adviser on the AUKUS nuclear
submarine project, a position with a $900,000 salary.[27] Additionally,
a PwC consultant who testified to the Royal Commission was fired in the
hours after the final report was released.[28]}
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Commission_into_the_Robodebt_Scheme
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and the Gemini protocol
Thanks, Paul: gemini://geminispace.info/search?freedos There is a search "button" in top where you can enter term you care about. Here I have given the term "Freedos" to search. I'm using amfora in a terminal window. -- My old iiNet address will die 2 October! Instead, send to my new address, "br...@exemail.com.au". I don't currently have a working phone. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Please update your address record
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Re: [Freedos-user] Planning the next virtual get-together
Thanks, Jim: We'll plan the next virtual get-together for Sunday, September 24. For me that will be 2 AM Monday. I expect to attend. -- This iiNet address won't last! I have joined Exetel. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] REMINDER: FreeDOS virtual get-together is tomorrow
Thanks, Jim: Plan for our FreeDOS virtual get-together for NEXT SUNDAY, August 27 at 11am US/Central. For me, then will be 2 AM Monday 28 August. (Use your favorite timezone converter to find your local time.) That's Australian Eastern Standard Time (AEST). We usually alternate topics every month (technical v social) but we didn't get to meet last month - so this meeting will be focused on "technical." That will be of lesser interest to me. And I have an appointment that afternoon. So maybe I won't join (for long). -- This iiNet address won't last! I have joined Exetel. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and the Gemini protocol
Thanks, Paul: I recently learn of the Gemini protocol. I apologise for slowness getting-around-to my e-Mail Inbox contents. Gemini is a group of technologies similar to the ones that lie behind your familiar web browser. Using Gemini, you can explore an online collection of written documents which can link to other written documents. I have installed amfora in a Ubuntu PC. And I briefly looked in the CAPCOM aggregator. But I feel lost! Please advise a newbie on browsing Gemini content. -- This iiNet address won't last! I have joined Exetel. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] My curiosity
Yes, Dan: Tasks that could be completed in seconds now take minutes in Windows. This is a major cause of physician burn-out with electronic health records. I hated Aussie social security. It required using a Web form. That was very complex. I found it infuriating! https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/ -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] My curiosity
Hey Dan: That's great info! I glad to see so many getting use ouf of old hardware. I, myself, have a whole load of old hardware. If it still works, or can be made to work, there's no need to chuck it! In particular I have a T40 and, perhaps more interesting, A Compaq Portable III. Get them going, then. I even have, in a flip-top jewel case, a 5-1/4" floppy + manual for a strange little app called Microsoft Access. I used to design databases in that! -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB serial & DOSBox
Yes, Louis:
Very cool!
In my Ubuntu Home directory is the hidden directory ".dosbox".
And within that, is the latest-version configuration file
"dosbox-0.74-3.conf".
At the end of that, I have edited a section thus.
{[autoexec]
# Lines in this section will be run at startup.
# Belkin F5U409 Serial-USB interface.
serial1=directserial realport:ttyUSB0
# You can put your MOUNT lines here.
# Mount POLAR heart-monitor software directory. Change to it & run POLAR.
mount c ~/snap/dosbox-jz/108/DOS/POLAR/
C:
POLAR}
So now launching DOSBox, changes to the heart-monitor software
directory. Then that application opens.
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Re: [Freedos-user] USB serial & DOSBox
Yay, Louis:
It should be at `/dev/ttyUSB0` and you should refer to realport
`ttyUSB0` or something like that (`serial1=directserial
realport:ttyUSB0`).
Yes, I found that character device.
lsusb lists the following.
{Bus 001 Device 005: ID 050d:0109 Belkin Components F5U109/F5U409 PDA
Adapter}
In DOSBox, at the C: prompt, I entered:
"serial1=directserial realport:ttyUSB0".
Then I launched the POLAR software. and told the heart-monitor to
transmit. The POLAR software immediately received the data!
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[Freedos-user] USB serial & DOSBox
My heart monitor is an old Polar Sport Tester 4000.
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1393035/Polar-Electro-Sport-Testert.html
Its interface box has an RS2323 socket.
I had been downloading data to an old PC with a serial port. That PC
runs FreeDOS. VER/R reports "DOS version 7.10".
My Ubuntu PC does not have a serial port.
But I have a Belkin F5U409 USB-serial adaptor. My Linux kernel is
5.19.0-50-generic.
{The device is supported by kernel versions 2.6.0 and newer according to
the LKDDb:
Ver Source Config By ID By Class
2.6.0 - 6.3 drivers/usb/serial/mct_u232.c CONFIG_USB CONFIG_USB_SERIAL
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_MCT_U232 050d:0109 *}
https://linux-hardware.org/?id=usb:050d-0109
That adaptor's LNK LED is on (green).
The Ubuntu PC has DOSBox v0.74-3. It runs the POLAR software OK. That
can set serial port to COM1 or COM2.
DOSBox Wiki says this.
{Configuration:SerialPort
Jump to navigation
Jump to search
serialX = device [parameter:value]
device can be: dummy | modem | nullmodem | directserial
parameter is: irq
value is:
for directserial: realport (required), rxdelay (optional).
for modem: listenport (optional).
for nullmodem: server, rxdelay, txdelay, telnet, usedtr,
transparent, port, inhsocket (all optional).
Defaults:
serial1=dummy
serial2=dummy
serial3=disabled
serial4=disabled
An example of how to configure an actual serial port for I/O use:
serial1=directserial realport:com1}
So in DOSBox, I enter that last line.
Then I launch the POLAR software.
And I check its default serial port:
"THE SELECTED SERIAL PORT FOR HR INPUT IS: COM1".
Then I instruct the heart monitor to transmit data. And the adapter's RX
LED illuminates red. But the POLAR software fails to detect data!
Please advise.
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Re: [Freedos-user] My curiosity
Hi Dan: What are others using freedos for: business, curiosity, running retro games and apps for fun, to avoid total dependence on the evil empire, or something else? I have an ancient heart rate monitor. Its computer interface uses DOS software via a serial port! -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dos
Hi Rahim: Whats The main Diference between freedos and dos. FreeDOS is more modernised, with extended functions. -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Can FreeDOS Be Installed By Means Of UNIX Commands?
G'day, Jay: Microsoft Windows is installed on three primary partitions, because that is what Windows does, and every other operating system on this computer must find a home for itself within the logical partitions carved out of the fourth, extended partition. Ugh! The installation procedure scares me. Back up! "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur" Not profound, just pompous! -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
